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A letter from Thomas Jefferson to Willism Smith
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Thomas Jefferson to William Smith
Paris Nov. 13. 1787.

persevering lying. the British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy, that the world has at length believed them, the English nation has believed them, the ministers themselves have come to believe them, & what is more wonderful, we have believed them ourselves. yet where does this anarchy exist? where did it ever exist, except in the single instance of Massachusets? and can history produce an instance of a rebellion so honourably conducted? I say nothing of it's motives. they were founded in ignorance, not wickedness. god forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. the people cannot be all, & always, well informed. the part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive; if they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. we have had 13. states independant 11. years. there has been one rebellion. that comes to one rebellion in a century & a half for each state. what country before ever existed a century & half without a rebellion? & what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure. our Convention has been too much impressed by. . .

Interesting and then some.
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I think we all realize Will learned his most valuable life lessons from his uncle Phil, though it’s a shame he didn’t warn him about Jada.
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Tommy was right telling Will Smith we need more rebellions.
The people are not "well informed", as progressives of all stripes have strived for. So now the Democrats want universal suffrage including dead people, convicted criminals, children, and anybody that happens to wander across a border, all without any identification and with all elections under the control of federal bureaucrats which would make cheating so much easier. If you don't agree then Sleepy Joe puts you in a farcical pigeon hole, on the side of Jefferson Davis instead of Abe Lincoln (who was a racist), on the side of Bull Connor instead of John Lewis (who was a communist), on the side of George Wallace instead of Dr. King (who advocated for Democratic Socialism).
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I find a few points most interesting in his letter. That we are in anarchy is a lie. Where does anarchy exist in the United States? Our rebellion was honorably conducted. We need rebellion in less than 20 years on an ongoing basis. People preserve the nature of resistance.
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As "the British ministry have so long hired their gazetteers to repeat and model into every form lies about our being in anarchy" back in the day, so does the progressive regime and their media propagandists do the same today.
If you want decentralization of political power, if you want smaller government, if you don't want to obey the unlawful and immoral dickates of politicians and bureaucrats from the center, if you say you want to abolish this or that government program....they'll say you just want to live in ANARCHY!
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They say you just want to live in anarchy. Could you expand upon that for me. I find it an interesting statement and would like to hear it in a broader context.
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And ideas are bulletproof.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
And ideas are bulletproof.


No they're not, just look at one of yours... it's full of holes.
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RayR wrote:
Tommy was right telling Will Smith we need more rebellions.
The people are not "well informed", as progressives of all stripes have strived for. So now the Democrats want universal suffrage including dead people, convicted criminals, children, and anybody that happens to wander across a border, all without any identification and with all elections under the control of federal bureaucrats which would make cheating so much easier. If you don't agree then Sleepy Joe puts you in a farcical pigeon hole, on the side of Jefferson Davis instead of Abe Lincoln (who was a racist), on the side of Bull Connor instead of John Lewis (who was a communist), on the side of George Wallace instead of Dr. King (who advocated for Democratic Socialism).

Other than self-aggrandizing, WTF does this have to do with the original post's content?
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rfenst wrote:
Other than self-aggrandizing, WTF does this have to do with the original post's content?


It has everything to do with TJ's words. What part do you not understand? Geez!
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