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8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 6:14 PM EST
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Hey Red Cross. Question for you.

Have seen commercials for your company. Give blood etc etc.

Heard also that one donation can save as many as three lives.

Also know due to disease, travel. sexual proclivities, and the appetites for people to get a new tattoo on a regular basis, the number of people who can give is becoming smaller all of the time.

Once a person gives blood- after the initial direction to the juice boxes and cookies, is a reminder you can give again in 60 days. Okay.

How about a little something.... you know.... for the effort? What price to you put on lives? (Guess you could ask me the same thing). How about $1,000 per donation? If that pint of blood saves three people, isn't $333 a bargain for a human life?

Not worth it, eh? How about $100? $33.33 a life. Still no?

Big thing in my world is Do Your Actions Match Your Words. To me, you are falling short.

Ok, so the last time I donated, there was information provided on how if I give again within a certain window of time, I could be eligible for an Amazon gift car valued at $10 (subject to terms, limitations and exclusions and the gift card you may or may not get will be received in 60-120 days if qualified).

Something about the arrangement doesn't sit entirely well with me.

Am not trying to get people to not give blood. Many of us here either have needed it or have loved ones who needed it. Seems like they are getting off on the cheap.

Are lives truly worth nothing to you? Unless of course someone gives plasma.

Not a rant as much as a curiosity.
Mr. Jones Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 7:23 PM EST
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The Red Cross Did some real shady stuff at the end of WWII... alleDgEdly

So did the Catholic diocese in Venice Italy...
I believe what the fishes did was way worse...
Like helping nazis escape to south America, uraguay, Paraguay, Chile, Argentina...all Catholicism countries after Spanish conquering...
Speyside2 Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 7:49 PM EST
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You got it!
MACS Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 7:59 PM EST
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Who came here hoping to see an AC/DC video and was severely disappointed??

*raises hand*

Here ya go... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWqTym2cQU
delta1 Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:04 PM EST
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my daughter regularly gave blood while she was in college for a couple of years...she did so about once a month or so...they continued calling our house for her for a few years after she graduated, but she had moved out by then...

my wife and I said, "it's the vampires calling for Lauren"

I went to donate when I was in college in the 70's, but the ARC determined I had hemophilia and urged me to get tested...turns out I have a rare blood disorder, which makes me ineligible to donate
Sunoverbeach Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:06 PM EST
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My favorite Bon era track.... I think. Iffin you ask me again in 30mins, I'll probably have 6 more favorites
MACS Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:13 PM EST
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Buddy of mine got me the Bonfire box set for my birthday years ago. 4 disc set.

Came with an AC/DC bottle opener... which is in my tacklebox. Guitar pick, too, but I have no idea where that went.
dkeage Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:14 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
My favorite Bon era track.... I think. Iffin you ask me again in 30mins, I'll probably have 6 more favorites

So true


For now I’ll go with Night Prowler
Sunoverbeach Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 8:28 PM EST
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^^That was one of them. Also,
Walk All Over You
Ride On
Let There Be Rock
Jailbreak
Whole Lotta Rosie
tailgater Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 9:12 PM EST
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Posts: 26,185
delta1 wrote:
my daughter regularly gave blood while she was in college for a couple of years...she did so about once a month or so...they continued calling our house for her for a few years after she graduated, but she had moved out by then...

my wife and I said, "it's the vampires calling for Lauren"

I went to donate when I was in college in the 70's, but the ARC determined I had hemophilia and urged me to get tested...turns out I have a rare blood disorder, which makes me ineligible to donate


I gave regularly as a young buck, then got the Hep C letter from the Red Cross.

It wasn't Hep C, just elevated liver enzymes that I already knew about.
But man. That letter sucked the wind out of me.
I almost cancelled my date that night. Or worse, I almost brought a condom.
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 9:13 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Buddy of mine got me the Bonfire box set for my birthday years ago. 4 disc set.

Came with an AC/DC bottle opener... which is in my tacklebox. Guitar pick, too, but I have no idea where that went.


No worries. TW will find it...
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 9:17 PM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
^^That was one of them. Also,
Walk All Over You
Ride On
Let There Be Rock
Jailbreak
Whole Lotta Rosie


Saving the best for last?

If the question is "best AC/DC song" and the answer isn't Rosie, then you didn't hear the question properly.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 9:36 PM EST
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From the days before their groupie quality increased exponentially
8trackdisco Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 10:58 PM EST
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Buncha thread jackers. All ya!

Fine! I’ll save my blood spatter-blabber for my bowel movements.
Gene363 Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Jan 18 2022, 11:13 PM EST
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,810

For a few years at work, I was a volunteer blood drive coordinator for our area. One of our local hospitals is the South Eastern Burn Center. They invited us to lunch and a tour of the burn center, they needed blood. They had burn patiaents waiting on surgeries simply because they did not have an adequate supply of blood. Meanwhile, I heard so mny BS excuses for not donating it was rediculas. If you have a real reason not to donate, then don't, just get someone else to take your place.

FWIW, we had both Red Cross and Sheppard Blood, I heard al sorts of stories about both, so what, most of it is an excuse not to donate.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 7:45 AM EST
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
^^That was one of them. Also,
Walk All Over You
Ride On
Let There Be Rock
Jailbreak
Whole Lotta Rosie



It's A Long Way To The Top ( If You Want To Rock N Roll)

Is my Top track by them.

Sin City
Thunderstruck
Highway To Hell
Have A Drink On Me

Round out my Top 5
MACS Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 9:35 AM EST
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Only group... ever... that could use bagpipes in a rock song and make it sound awesome.
8trackdisco Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 10:49 AM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
For a few years at work, I was a volunteer blood drive coordinator for our area. One of our local hospitals is the South Eastern Burn Center. They invited us to lunch and a tour of the burn center, they needed blood. They had burn patiaents waiting on surgeries simply because they did not have an adequate supply of blood. Meanwhile, I heard so mny BS excuses for not donating it was rediculas. If you have a real reason not to donate, then don't, just get someone else to take your place.

FWIW, we had both Red Cross and Sheppard Blood, I heard al sorts of stories about both, so what, most of it is an excuse not to donate.


Minus medical conditions, they are all personal choices not to give. I’ve given a few gallons over the years, most recently in November and will probably continue to. If they would pay people, they’d get more blood. Apparently they don’t need more.
Speyside2 Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 10:53 AM EST
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I need 2 lists one for Bonn and one for Brian.

Bonn
It's a long way to the top if you want to rock and roll
Highway to hell

Brian
Thunderstruck
Have a drink on me
BuckyB93 Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 12:51 PM EST
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No fans of Big Balls?
MACS Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 12:54 PM EST
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Some balls are held for charity
And some for fancy dress
But when they're held for pleasure
They're the balls that I like best
My balls are always bouncing
To the left and to the right
It's my belief that my big balls
Should be held every night
Gene363 Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 1:58 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
Minus medical conditions, they are all personal choices not to give. I’ve given a few gallons over the years, most recently in November and will probably continue to. If they would pay people, they’d get more blood. Apparently they don’t need more.


Like organ donation, there are ethical problems. There are companies that pay for plasma donations, my cynical POV says current blood donation organizations like the way it is, for whatever reasons.

hats off to you, blood donations measured in gallons rate much karma credit.
delta1 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 2:07 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
For a few years at work, I was a volunteer blood drive coordinator for our area. One of our local hospitals is the South Eastern Burn Center. They invited us to lunch and a tour of the burn center, they needed blood. They had burn patiaents waiting on surgeries simply because they did not have an adequate supply of blood. Meanwhile, I heard so mny BS excuses for not donating it was rediculas. If you have a real reason not to donate, then don't, just get someone else to take your place.

FWIW, we had both Red Cross and Sheppard Blood, I heard al sorts of stories about both, so what, most of it is an excuse not to donate.


I was also tasked with coordinating and publishing the bi-annual ARC blood drive for our college district. I'd meet with the student governments at each campus so they'd get the word out to their peers. I sent emails and reminders and got posters made for the faculty and staff lounge areas. The students always made it worthwhile. Few faculty and staff, except at the main campus.

The most discouraging was the turnout at the administrative district offices: one year only eight people donated out of about 400 employees at that site.
Gene363 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 2:19 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
I was also tasked with coordinating and publishing the bi-annual ARC blood drive for our college district. I'd meet with the student governments at each campus so they'd get the word out to their peers. I sent emails and reminders and got posters made for the faculty and staff lounge areas. The students always made it worthwhile. Few faculty and staff, except at the main campus.

The most discouraging was the turnout at the administrative district offices: one year only eight people donated out of about 400 employees at that site.


Sad. sad. I also had problems encouraging blacks to donate. All sorts of issues, Tuekeege Experiment and other problems, not to mention an old white guys trying to talk them into donating. Sickle Cell Anemia patients, especially teenagers, often require total blood replacement therpy and while there are the various blood types, there are other markers that improve the match and only come from donars of the same race.

I solved the problem by recruting a young black woman to take over as blood drive coordinator.
delta1 Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 2:46 PM EST
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you're a wise man, Gene
8trackdisco Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 3:08 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Like organ donation, there are ethical problems. There are companies that pay for plasma donations, my cynical POV says current blood donation organizations like the way it is, for whatever reasons.

hats off to you, blood donations measured in gallons rate much karma credit.


When my son was born the birthing wasn't without incident. Later, the surgery went bad and she needed three pints. Pledged to give a gallon for every pint she needed. Achieved that. Not sure what my total is at.

Maybe the Red Cross sees is like sex. If you can get it for free, why pay for it.
Gene363 Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 4:48 PM EST
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8trackdisco wrote:
When my son was born the birthing wasn't without incident. Later, the surgery went bad and she needed three pints. Pledged to give a gallon for every pint she needed. Achieved that. Not sure what my total is at.

Maybe the Red Cross sees is like sex. If you can get it for free, why pay for it.


I cannot think of a better way to give thanks, I'm in awe.
Gene363 Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 4:58 PM EST
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delta1 wrote:
you're a wise man, Gene


More like desperate, LOL Some might even call it white guilt, but when something is just wrong and you have a chance to make it better you just have to act. It did lead to some (very) frank and interesting conversations with black people that might otherwise not have happened.

Also when you have a rightious cause, in your mind, it might get you thinking you have licence to be a a bully. It really doesn't, of course, and I knew I had to setp away before I ended up with premature carrier realingement.
plinytheelder Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 7:06 PM EST
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My question would be does the Hospital charge you a fee for the blood you need as a result of a surgery?

I've never been too enthused by the fact that the Red Cross people are getting paid for doing what they do, but the donors get stiffed for the blood they give...
tonygraz Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 7:40 PM EST
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Ride on, Highway to Hell, Hell's Bells, Mistress for Christmas, Thunderstruck.
8trackdisco Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 8:04 PM EST
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plinytheelder wrote:
My question would be does the Hospital charge you a fee for the blood you need as a result of a surgery?


Unsure. Think it might be part of a package deal.

Get one free pint of blood with the purchase of a hospital Tylenol ($80 per).
Sunoverbeach Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Jan 19 2022, 8:48 PM EST
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Favorite Johnson era
Hells Bells
Shoot to Thrill
What do you do for Money Honey
For Those About to Rock
Are You Ready
Shake Your Foundations

Sorry, 8. I'm all done now
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2022, 9:46 AM EST
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It’s a blood donation the way I see it. I don’t want anything for mine. I’m not selling. Just trying to help.

I do see your point. My father is on dialysis. They can have mine for free
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2022, 9:48 AM EST
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I’d encourage anyone that can to go ahead and donate. Lots of folks out there need some.

I will agree some of the tests are a bit much but I guess they need good clean blood which makes sense.

Just the same I think any organs that are in good shape when a person passes should be donated. Someone can use them thangs.
Mr. Jones Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2022, 9:57 AM EST
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Is this the NEW PLASMA 500?
RMAN4443 Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2022, 2:06 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
No fans of Big Balls?

great tune...no mention of "She's Got the Jack" or "She's Got Balls"?
Applause

She's got balls She's got balls She's got soul, my lady Likes to crawl, my baby All around the floor on her hands and knees Ooh, because she likes to please me But most important of all Let me tell you The lady's got balls She's got balls She's got balls She's got balls And she's got taste, my lady Pace, my lady Makes my heart race With her pretty face She's got balls...reminds me of a girl I knew way back whenfog
Gene363 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2022, 2:30 PM EST
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Is this the NEW PLASMA 500?


I think it'll bleed out before 500 posts.
8trackdisco Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2022, 3:00 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
I think it'll bleed out before 500 posts.


ba da BOOM... tishshshshshshshshshshsh!
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