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Biden’s December Illegal Border Crossing Numbers Worse Than 3 Previous Years Combined
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By Ryan Saavedra - Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration finally released the December numbers for illegal border crossings along the U.S.-Mexico border, which showed a dramatic uptick compared to previous years.

“The number of unique individuals encountered in December 2021 was 135,040, a 5 percent increase in the number of unique individuals encountered the prior month,” U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said in a statement. “In total, there were 178,840 encounters along the Southwest land border in December, a 2 percent increase compared to November.”

The 178,840 illegal border crossings for December 2021 was higher than the December totals from 2020, 2019, and 2018 combined when there was a total of 175,353 illegal border crossings.

Mark Morgan, former acting CBP commissioner and Heritage visiting fellow, responded to the news in a statement, saying, “More than a year ago, even as Joe Biden was preparing to roll back President Donald Trump’s effective border security policies, he claimed he did not want to end up with ‘two million people on our border.’ After a year on the job, it’s undeniable that Biden has failed even by his own basic measure.”

“In 12 months, CBP recorded more than two million encounters along the southwest border, a shocking and historic number,” Morgan added. “But that number does not include an estimated 600,000 or more ‘got-aways,’ individuals who cross the border illegally but which Border Patrol is unable to detain. And then there are the ‘turn-backs,’ those who make an effort to cross the border but eventually give up and return to their country of origin. Under Biden, that number was around 400,000. Under Joe Biden, more than three million people have tried to violate America’s sovereignty and illegally enter our country. This is not only the worst border crisis in American history—it’s the worst 12 months for any president when it comes to border security.”

Former acting ICE director Tom Homan said during an interview accused Biden’s border policies to contributing to deaths along the southern border. Homan’s remarks came after a Texas Department of Public Safety officer was killed during a U.S. Border Patrol incident over the weekend.

“Prayers out to Spec
ial Agent Salas and his family, it’s always tragic to lose one of the finest,” he said. “But look, I’ve said it many times before: people want to beat up on President Trump, but his [Biden’s] immigration policies are inhumane. Let me be clear when President Trump pushed illegal immigration to a 35, 40 year low, depending on how much you look at illegal immigration… it was down 83%. That saves lives because the most vulnerable people will not make that journey if they know they won’t succeed.”

“And Joe Biden comes in office, destroys all his policies. And what’s the result? Under President Trump last year, there was a total of 254 migrants died crossing that border —the first year under President Biden, that is more than doubled to 557,” he added. “That’s a 119% increase… Add to that over 100,000 overdose deaths, most of it from fentanyl that the DEA says, ‘come across the border.’ Add to that 59 CBP officers who die from COVID because Joe Biden is ignoring Title 42 when it comes to hundreds of thousands of children and family groups to come across with COVID, that affects these agents. So let me tell you something, Joe Biden’s policies are not humane. It’s killing people at a huge rate – more than I’ve ever seen in my career. ”



And this administration is going to secure the Ukrainian border and keep Russia out.
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A son tells his father, "I have an imaginary girlfriend." The father says, "You can do better." "Thanks, Dad," replies the boy. The father shakes his head and states, "I was speaking to your girlfriend."
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
A son tells his father, "I have an imaginary girlfriend." The father says, "You can do better." "Thanks, Dad," replies the boy. The father shakes his head and states, "I was speaking to your girlfriend."


She must have been illegal.
RayR Offline
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OK Ben, you can ignore the article like you've ignored the fact that the LEFT has been the most destructive force in history since there's been a LEFT.
Fomenting CHAOS, DEATH and The DESTRUCTION of Western civilization has been their goal.
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Burner02 wrote:
And this administration is going to secure the Ukrainian border and keep Russia out.



REMEMBER THE 13!
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"I have good and bad news," says the doctor. "The good news is you have two days to live."
"Damn," replied the patient. "What's the bad news?"
"I've been trying to reach you for two days"
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He told Corn Pop to hold his beer….
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Biden will need to keep it up though 2024. More Democratic votes are needed to carry Texas.
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Why not make it easier/less time consuming/less costly to legally cross the border?

Oh, right...cuz that would eliminate a hot button issue for Coke and Pepsi to fire up their bases about.
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borndead1 wrote:
Why not make it easier/less time consuming/less costly to legally cross the border?

Oh, right...cuz that would eliminate a hot button issue for Coke and Pepsi to fire up their bases about.

I agree.
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RayR wrote:
OK Ben, you can ignore the article like you've ignored the fact that the LEFT has been the most destructive force in history since there's been a LEFT.
Fomenting CHAOS, DEATH and The DESTRUCTION of Western civilization has been their goal.


I don't think our definitions of chaos are aligned.

Chaos is a byproduct of just being human... we're a pretty chaotic species.
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RayR wrote:
OK Ben, you can ignore the article like you've ignored the fact that the LEFT has been the most destructive force in history since there's been a LEFT.
Fomenting CHAOS, DEATH and The DESTRUCTION of Western civilization has been their goal.

He should read it just because YOU say so?
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Dat meteor that killed all the conservative and liberal dinosaurs was a purty destructive force. Just sayin'
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borndead1 wrote:
Why not make it easier/less time consuming/less costly to legally cross the border?



I'm all for LEGAL immigration. If one wants to become a citizen of the USA (it's highly desired otherwise you wouldn't find people willing to lose their life and end up in jail to get here!) then fill out the papers, wait your turn and come on through the front door.

That's not what this article points out though. This is all about ILLEGALS bum rushing the border with sheer numbers designed to overpower officers that are being hamstrung by a sitting President that doesn't value the laws on the books we already have.
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rfenst wrote:
He should read it just because YOU say so?


Yes he should!

How much New York Times stuff do you post and even highlight it for us to read!?
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HockeyDad wrote:
Yes he should!

How much New York Times stuff do you post and even highlight it for us to read!?


When Robert highlights stuff for us to read, I consider that a form of microaggression. Anxious
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I'd like to have kids one day. I don't think I could stand them any longer than that though.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I'm all for LEGAL immigration. If one wants to become a citizen of the USA (it's highly desired otherwise you wouldn't find people willing to lose their life and end up in jail to get here!) then fill out the papers, wait your turn and come on through the front door.


Reread what you said, and then reread what I said. There's a reason why people are willing to take such a huge risk. Because 'filling out the papers and waiting your turn' is very time consuming, burdensome, and expensive. And this is by design. It would be very easy for our legislature to streamline legal immigration procedures and even work visas. They won't do it, because it would eliminate a hot button issue that both parties use to fire up their bases during election years. Hey, isn't 2022 an election year? Think

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/immigration-wait-times-quotas-have-doubled-green-card-backlogs-are-long#
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borndead1 wrote:
Reread what you said, and then reread what I said. There's a reason why people are willing to take such a huge risk. Because 'filling out the papers and waiting your turn' is very time consuming, burdensome, and expensive. And this is by design. It would be very easy for our legislature to streamline legal immigration procedures and even work visas. They won't do it, because it would eliminate a hot button issue that both parties use to fire up their bases during election years. Hey, isn't 2022 an election year? Think

https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/immigration-wait-times-quotas-have-doubled-green-card-backlogs-are-long#


I read it....and again. That does nothing for illegals. Installing a fast lane for citizenship is for 3rd world countries. We're still the USA. It still means something. Cheapening it for the sake of illegals isn't a wise idea.
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Immigrating, like voting shouldn't be easy, it should be hard. You just don't want every dimwit to do it.
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You the bomb
No, you the bomb
A compliment in the U.S. An argument in the middle East
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^Brilliant.
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Ya... that one was good.
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Leaked video shows federal contractors flying migrants to suburban NY: 'Betraying the American people'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/video-westchester-new-york-migrants-night-contractors

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Leaked video shows migrants being transported on secret charter flights under the cover of night from southern border states to Westchester, New York.

"The government is betraying the American people," a federal contractor told a Westchester County police officer in a conversation recorded on the officer’s body camera on the tarmac of a Westchester airport on Aug. 13, 2021.

The footage was obtained via a Freedom of Information Act request by former Westchester County Executive Rob Astorino. Reports first surfaced of such flights back in October when the New York Post captured video of the scene at the airport in White Plains, New York.

"Our government is completely out of control right now. They have lied to us. They've lied to the American people," Astorino, who is running as a Republican for the governor of New York, said Wednesday on Fox News’ "Tucker Carlson Tonight."

Astorino said he personally saw the migrants being put on a bus to a Costco, where they were "then released into cars into the community."

The 51-minute footage of the August incident shows Westchester Police Sgt. Michael Hamborsky peppering federal contractors early in the morning with questions about the after-hours flights and why local police were not provided details.

"You’re on a secure facility here; we really don’t know anything and we’re in charge of security," he told one of the contractors.

"This is anti all our security stuff," Hamborsky said.

Such flights first streamed into the suburban airport from places such as McAllen, and Houston, Texas, last August, according to the New York Post. They only stopped after the outlet captured footage of the scenes back in October.

Employees of MVM Inc., a private security firm that signed a $136 million contract with the federal government last year to transport migrants around the country, were also onboard the flight, the New York Post reported.

"I’m just trying to figure out what’s what, who’s who and how I’m supposed to keep this secure," Hamborsky told the contractors as he continued asking questions.

"We’re not allowed to have our picture taken when we get on base," one contractor told the officer as they began showing him lanyards around their necks.

"Un-f–king-believable," Hamborsky responded. "And who’s that by? DHS [Department of Homeland Security]?"

"Yes, and the United States Army," the contractor responded. "You’re on a federal installation but DHS wants everything on the down low."

Another contractor told Hamborsky: "Listen, my thing is I like to comply but technically we’re not supposed to show IDs or anything. Like I said, everything is supposed to be hush hush."

Hamborsky asked one contractor why they were coming to suburban Westchester, which is about 35 miles outside of New York City.

"You don’t want to be in somewhere the spotlight is," the contractor replied. "You want to try and be as down low as possible. A lot of this is just down-low stuff that we don’t tell people because what we don’t want to do is attract attention. We don’t want the media. Like we don’t even know where we’re going when they tell us."

One of the contractors told the officer later in the video: "I get the whole secrecy and all that s–t but this is even above my f–king pay grade . . . the f- -k, you know what I mean?"

"And why? You know why?" Hamborsky asked.

"You know why, look who’s in office. That’s why, come on," the contractor said.

"But what’s the big secret?" the cop asked.

"You know why. Because if this gets out, the government is betraying the American people," the contractor said.

Hamborsky also asked a bus driver where he is taking the migrants, but the driver said he isn’t sure.

"They didn’t tell you where it’s going?" he asked the bus driver.

"They never do," the driver responded.

Hamborsky later learned that some of the buses were headed to Delaware, Virginia and New Jersey.

"We’re a family-owned business," one driver explained. "We’re subcontractors of a government contractor . . . It’s one of those things you can’t turn down because once you sign the contract, you’re a slave to the grind."

Astorino told Fox News’ Tucker Carlson this video shows a "complete breakdown of our system."

"Now they keep saying ‘it’s just unaccompanied kids.’ Completely a lie. And that these kids were not going to go into our own area. Completely a lie. [They’re being put] into schools in Westchester, Long Island, the surrounding suburbs. So it is a complete breakdown of our system. It is a betrayal, as that gentleman said, a betrayal to the American people."

"We have a government that continues to lie to us, that has failed in its most essential duty to secure our nation's borders, and uphold the rule of law. When we first found out about these flights, we were attacked for demanding simple answers. They kept lying and deflecting, but this is a matter of public safety, public health and the people’s right to know," Astorino told Fox News Digital on Thursday.

He also questioned why Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul has not weighed in on the flights.

"And where’s our governor? Kathy Hochul is so obsessed with keeping our kids in masks and coddling career criminals that she hasn't bothered to utter a word about these flights or bringing the crises on the southern border into our neighborhoods in Westchester, Long Island and the rest of the suburbs."

The White House did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment on the video.

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in October that, "It is our legal responsibility to safely care for unaccompanied children until they can be swiftly reunited with a parent or a vetted sponsor."

About 2,000 children flew into the Westchester airport from June to late October, NBC New York reported in the fall. About two million migrants overall came across the Mexico-U.S. border in 2021, according to the New York Post.


President Biden has faced repeated criticism and outrage over his administration’s handling of immigration and the migrant crisis at the southern border. Conservatives have slammed the president for ending construction of the border, limiting the ability of ICE to arrest and deport illegal immigrants and terminating asylum cooperative agreements.

The Biden administration also ended the Trump-era Migrant Protection Protocols, which returned migrants to Mexico as they awaited hearings. The program was later restored after the Supreme Court ruled the Biden administration ended it unlawfully.
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What does a house wear to a nice party?
Address
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RayR wrote:
Immigrating, like voting shouldn't be easy, it should be hard. You just don't want every dimwit to do it.


DrMaddVibe wrote:
I read it....and again. That does nothing for illegals. Installing a fast lane for citizenship is for 3rd world countries. We're still the USA. It still means something. Cheapening it for the sake of illegals isn't a wise idea.




It was easy for your great great grandparents. All they had to do was show up at Ellis Island, sign some papers, get checked by a doctor, and bam...they were Americans.

Your ancestors benefited from easy immigration, which means that *YOU* have benefited from easy immigration. And now you want to make it difficult for other people? That's kinda f*cked up, guys.

But I expect nothing less from "small government" 'conservatives'.

Y'all are the mirror image of the liberals that you talk s#it about, and you don't even realize it. It's both comical and pathetic.
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Leaked video shows federal contractors flying migrants to suburban NY: 'Betraying the American people'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/video-westchester-new-york-migrants-night-contractors




Indications are that this activity has been going on since Apr 2021.

I wonder why they are hiding their activity from the american people.
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Why should you never buy anything with Velcro?
It's a total ripoff
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borndead1 wrote:
It was easy for your great great grandparents. All they had to do was show up at Ellis Island, sign some papers, get checked by a doctor, and bam...they were Americans.

Your ancestors benefited from easy immigration, which means that *YOU* have benefited from easy immigration. And now you want to make it difficult for other people? That's kinda f*cked up, guys.

But I expect nothing less from "small government" 'conservatives'.

Y'all are the mirror image of the liberals that you talk s#it about, and you don't even realize it. It's both comical and pathetic.

Calling people pathetic is more a reflection on you than on others...

Our ancestors in the US benefitted from slavery, but I doubt anyone would suggest we should bring that back.

Our ancestors benefitted from no environmental regulations so they could build industry, but I doubt anyone would suggest we should bring that back.

Our ancestors benefitted form what was deemed appropriate at the time, and in our time, it does not seem appropriate to allow millions of low/no skilled workers into the US simply because... It will cause undue burdens on our society as a whole.

Perhaps you can explain to me why the soveirgn nation of the USA should allow anyone and everyone in today? Make your argument for open borders in the USA.
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Our borders and our immigration policy need reform.

1) 0 tolerance for illegal border crossing, they get sent back the instant they are caught.
2) Total reform of the immigration system from the ground up. Say 90 days from application to decision. Pretty simple stuff. Will we benefit from you being here and is your nose clean. Yes, great, come on in. No, go back home you are not welcome here.
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Speyside2 wrote:
Our borders and our immigration policy need reform.

1) 0 tolerance for illegal border crossing, they get sent back the instant they are caught.
2) Total reform of the immigration system from the ground up. Say 90 days from application to decision. Pretty simple stuff. Will we benefit from you being here and is your nose clean. Yes, great, come on in. No, go back home you are not welcome here.


90 days from application to decision? What planet do you live on?

Bureaucracies like ours can't figure out which hand to wipe their ass within 90 days.
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Ew! It'll get all crusty if you wait that long
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I don't live for bureaucracy. John F Kennedy had a famous quote which is appropriate. "Instead of asking why, ask why not". Break the chains that bind your mind to what is possible. Will it be achieved? Probably not, could it be achieved? Yes. If we try and fail are we any worse of than now? No, you have the choice to to determine your destiny. Almost everything can be taken from you. But not your mind, your heart, your soul, your spirit.
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Speyside2 wrote:
I don't live for bureaucracy. John F Kennedy had a famous quote which is appropriate. "Instead of asking why, ask why not". Break the chains that bind your mind to what is possible. Will it be achieved? Probably not, could it be achieved? Yes. If we try and fail are we any worse of than now? No, you have the choice to to determine your destiny. Almost everything can be taken from you. But not your mind, your heart, your soul, your spirit.


That’s why the bureaucrats had him killed.
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Government thrives on bureaucracy. They don't produce anything nor have to answer for anything. Their income comes from taxes which you, I and just about anyone, else have little control over.
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Speyside2 wrote:
I don't live for bureaucracy. John F Kennedy had a famous quote which is appropriate. "Instead of asking why, ask why not". Break the chains that bind your mind to what is possible. Will it be achieved? Probably not, could it be achieved? Yes. If we try and fail are we any worse of than now? No, you have the choice to to determine your destiny. Almost everything can be taken from you. But not your mind, your heart, your soul, your spirit.

RFK?
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Government thrives on bureaucracy. They don't produce anything nor have to answer for anything. Their income comes from taxes which you, I and just about anyone, else have little control over.

Where else do you think government income come from could/should come from?
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Could be.
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s why the bureaucrats had him killed.


I heard that Cruz's father did that.
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rfenst wrote:
Where else do you think government income come from could/should come from?


Patents on vaccines.
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Speyside2 wrote:
Our borders and our immigration policy need reform.

1) 0 tolerance for illegal border crossing, they get sent back the instant they are caught.
2) Total reform of the immigration system from the ground up. Say 90 days from application to decision. Pretty simple stuff. Will we benefit from you being here and is your nose clean. Yes, great, come on in. No, go back home you are not welcome here.


Wall should be built along the entire Mexican border. Catch and immediate send-back should be the first line of defense unless they can preliminarily show "good cause," and then should still be jailed during the entire time their case is being adjudicated.

90 days is definitely doable for illegals in a specialized adjudicatory scenario. It would have to be built from the ground-up like the federal civil trial courts were years ago. It could run like slim-lined, clock-work. Lawyers won't be allowed to cause unnecessary delays or excess complications without being personally sanctioned and fined.

We could have a public defenders office to keep private attorneys from being appointed and paid for by us. No private attorneys, unless the illegal could pay out of their own pocket. No fees or costs to a private lawyer whose client wins and is allowed in so that we don't have to pay them for being the prevailing party. At all times during the adjudication process, all illegals who can show preliminary good cause should remain imprisoned.

The only problem I see is an when illegal has "good cause" doesn't have all the documentation yet to prove they have a valid reason to be allowed in. This is because they have Due Process rights, the short length of which should be limited by statute.

(Pretty good for a middle of the road liberal around here, huh?)
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HockeyDad wrote:
Patents on vaccines.

and fishing licenses
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frankj1 wrote:
and fishing licenses


and casinos
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scratch cards!
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I stayed home after eating seafood because I felt a little eel
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rfenst wrote:
Wall should be built along the entire Mexican border. Catch and immediate send-back should be the first line of defense unless they can preliminarily show "good cause," and then should still be jailed during the entire time their case is being adjudicated.


The only problem I see is an when illegal has "good cause" doesn't have all the documentation yet to prove they have a valid reason to be allowed in. This is because they have Due Process rights, the short length of which should be limited by statute.

(Pretty good for a middle of the road liberal around here, huh?)



On #1 I wholeheartedly agree

#2 Not so.much.........being ILLEGAL Aliens they have no "Due Process Rights", those rights are reserved for US Citizens only.
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totally off the top of my head and I'd test positive for bourbon, but a voice somewhere in my brain is saying that the wording is that all people HERE, not specifying being a US Citizen, have the same rights and protections when actively in the legal/criminal system.

I'm not attaching any emotion to this, I just seem to recall it as a dry fact.

Need Robert to correct or tweek my memory...
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