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Maryland laws, states rights?
Speyside Offline
#1 Posted:
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https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/547536-maryland-legislature-overrides-governors-veto-on-police-reform-bill

States rights, or Socialism?
MACS Offline
#2 Posted:
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We'll see how many of Maryland's cops stick around. When you can't hire or keep good cops things will get worse.

Obviously I haven't read what it is they're doing, aside from taking away the POBOR, which in itself is BS...

https://porac.org/resources/peace-officers-bill-of-rights/

^^You tell me if any of that looks unreasonable to you. POBOR protects the officers rights, it doesn't protect them from being investigated, fired, or even criminally prosecuted.
zitotczito Offline
#3 Posted:
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Excellent, I hope crime runs rampant in that piece of garbage state and I used to live there and would never go back. F'm.
RayR Offline
#4 Posted:
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zitotczito wrote:
Excellent, I hope crime runs rampant in that piece of garbage state and I used to live there and would never go back. F'm.


It already is...you know Baltimore, MD, one of the most crime ridden Dem run cities in the US. Did youlive there?
Mr. Jones Offline
#5 Posted:
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Trump called balllteeeeemorrrreeee
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Sheeeeeetttttt-hole
Speyside Offline
#6 Posted:
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The whole state is in big trouble. I can't imagine anyone now wanting to be any form of police in Maryland. If fact I can imagine a large number of people leaving the force to go elsewhere.

Here is my quandary. I believe in states rights 100% of the time. When Georgia changed their election laws that was 100% their right. Now Maryland changes their policing laws which is 100% their right. Yet Maryland made a really poor decision. States rights either exist or they don't. I can't be selective about them.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted:
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And with states rights people can leave them and move where their wishes are obeyed.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#8 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Trump called balllteeeeemorrrreeee
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Sheeeeeetttttt-hole



Remember when the media went ape$hit over it too?


Good times, good times. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Waaaay to smart for them. Chip, back to you...weather on the Nines!
BuckyB93 Offline
#9 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Remember when the media went ape$hit over it too?


Good times, good times. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Waaaay to smart for them. Chip, back to you...weather on the Nines!


NINE!
zitotczito Offline
#10 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
It already is...you know Baltimore, MD, one of the most crime ridden Dem run cities in the US. Did youlive there?


I lived about a mile from the city line and worked in the Mondawmin Mall (attacked during the riots) and the Inner Harbor. I used to go downtown to Little Italy, Fells Point, etc.. all the time and previously felt safe. My family still lives outside of Baltimore in "safe" areas and do go into Baltimore sometimes during the day but NEVER at night!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#11 Posted:
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Sounds like Detroit
opelmanta1900 Offline
#12 Posted:
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"The passage of the bills does away with the Law Enforcement Officers' Bill of Rights, which provided police protections, including the removal of complaints after a certain amount of time had passed and a five-day waiting period for officers who were accused of misconduct to speak to internal investigators."


How awful that cops no longer have 5 days to get their story straight before having to explain why they shot an unarmed man...
DrMaddVibe Offline
#13 Posted:
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A New Dem Bill Would Make ‘Tent Cities’ Permanent Fixture


Maryland state bill would prevent police from removing homeless camps from public property

Some of the nation's most liberal cities are cracking down on their homeless populations. But Maryland may soon ban police from removing homeless people from public property.

A Democratic-backed bill in the Maryland statehouse would prevent police from enforcing Failure to Obey Lawful Orders laws, which critics say would permit homeless camps, known as "tent cities," on public property. The sponsor of the bill, Democratic delegate Sheila Ruth, said in a committee hearing that these tent cities are not harmful or dangerous to communities.

"We shouldn't be destroying homeless encampments," Ruth said.

Ruth did not respond to a request for comment.

Ruth is pushing to permit homeless encampments in Maryland as Democratic politicians roll back on similar policies across the country. The Los Angeles City Council in October banned homeless camps in 54 locations. Austin, Texas, in May overwhelmingly voted to ban public camping across the city. Seattle and Washington, D.C., have cleared out homeless camps in recent months, and New York City mayor Eric Adams (D.) on Friday released a plan to remove homeless people from public areas such as subway trains.

Baltimore City estimates that there are more than 2,000 homeless people in the city on any given night. Statewide estimates put Maryland's homeless population at more than 6,000.

Maryland Republicans say Ruth's bill is the latest example of state Democrats' misplaced priorities on criminal justice.

"The last couple of years the focus of Maryland legislators has unfortunately been to treat criminals as victims and encourage breaking the law," state senator Michael Hough told the Washington Free Beacon.

Republican state senator Justin Ready said Ruth's bill would "encourage vagrancy like they have in places like San Francisco," worsening crime in Baltimore and other poverty-stricken areas in the state.

Maryland's term-limited Republican governor, Larry Hogan, is using his final months in office to press for a $500 million "Refund the Police" package and bills for tougher sentences for violent criminals. The Free Beacon reported in November that 88 percent of African-American Marylanders back Hogan's Refund the Police initiative.

Democratic state legislators in 2020 spiked Hogan's bills on tougher sentences and judicial transparency, even though polling showed near-unanimous support for his tough-on-crime reforms among Baltimore residents and African Americans across the state.

https://freebeacon.com/democrats/a-new-dem-bill-would-make-tent-cities-permanent-fixture/


88% approval for refunding the police from a GOP gov? The DNC wants tent cities?

See the difference?
JGKAMIN Offline
#14 Posted:
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“Washington, D.C., have cleared out homeless camps in recent months”

I wish that were true, they’re still spread out all over the city and camped out right in front of some prominent buildings. I’ve seen tents with furniture, kiddie pools for washing clothes, fire pits, mopeds, office chairs, barber chairs, clothes lines strung from tree to tree. Some of these people seem like they’re otherwise normal people that just don’t want to pay rent, others are like survivalist campers while some others just lie around all day crashed out like zombies. These people should be encouraged to take up shelter in locations other than the scenic touristy spots. Wonder why an organization like BLM hasn’t spent any money on these lives that should also matter? They could go a long way to help provide them clean clothes, blankets, shelter and meals.
drglnc Offline
#15 Posted:
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JGKAMIN wrote:
“Washington, D.C., have cleared out homeless camps in recent months”

I wish that were true, they’re still spread out all over the city and camped out right in front of some prominent buildings. I’ve seen tents with furniture, kiddie pools for washing clothes, fire pits, mopeds, office chairs, barber chairs, clothes lines strung from tree to tree. Some of these people seem like they’re otherwise normal people that just don’t want to pay rent, others are like survivalist campers while some others just lie around all day crashed out like zombies. These people should be encouraged to take up shelter in locations other than the scenic touristy spots. Wonder why an organization like BLM hasn’t spent any money on these lives that should also matter? They could go a long way to help provide them clean clothes, blankets, shelter and meals.



Yea, 2 blocks from Department Of State a row of Tents have been in place for several years. i see them go away about once a year for 24 hours and spring right back up bigger with cloths lines, grills, carpets and even furniture. i think they only get cleared if some dignitary is going to use that route to get to the State Department main building. to be fair though, i have never seen any of the folks that live in them hassle people or even panhandle for money. even watched a guy come out of a tent dressed for what looked like work in a kitchen and hop on the bus at the corner.
JGKAMIN Offline
#16 Posted:
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DuPont Circle has a mess, there were quite a few survivalist types in front of the US District Court, the Canadian Embassy has a **** show all around, oddly the Judiciary Square area has small pockets, but that humongous mess coming up to the DC kitchen. There is nothing but trouble hanging out around the arena downtown. They obviously don’t live there but come in and hang out all day. Wouldn’t you want to keep such a touristy spot extra clean? They just had Disney on Ice this weekend and I’m sure those kids went home traumatized seeing shyt they’ve never seen before. Put a few extra police down there on foot patrol, providing more of a visual deterrent.
HockeyDad Offline
#17 Posted:
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The proper term is “unhoused.”

When you call them “homeless people” you show that you are a bunch of deplorable slack jawed rednecks clinging to your gun and bibles. They have a home. It just doesn’t conform to your western prescribed housing structure requirements.
JGKAMIN Offline
#18 Posted:
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homeless

homeless (adjective)

home·​less | \ ˈhōm-ləs \
Definition of homeless
: having no home or permanent place of residence
8trackdisco Offline
#19 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
We'll see how many of Maryland's cops stick around. When you can't hire or keep good cops things will get worse.

Obviously I haven't read what it is they're doing, aside from taking away the POBOR, which in itself is BS...

https://porac.org/resources/peace-officers-bill-of-rights/

^^You tell me if any of that looks unreasonable to you. POBOR protects the officers rights, it doesn't protect them from being investigated, fired, or even criminally prosecuted.


I predict we will start seeing the roots of corruption in Baltimore.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#20 Posted:
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There are women named Faith, Hope, Joy, and Prudence. Why not Despair, Guilt, Rage, and Grief? It seems only right. "Tom, I'd like you to meet the girl of my dreams, Tragedy. Sorry, that's Trajedi "
- GC
DrMaddVibe Offline
#21 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
I predict we will start seeing the roots of corruption in Baltimore.



That would be awesome
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