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significant overcount of deaths
tailgater Offline
#1 Posted:
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Even Blue Massachusetts admits it: We over counted the deaths due to Covid.

About 4,000 are no longer dead. From covid, at least.
24k to 20k.
Overnight.


I wonder if this was part of the THE MODEL?

RayR Offline
#2 Posted:
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Not long ago, that kind of claim was called "misinformation".
Sunoverbeach Offline
#3 Posted:
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Have you seen the what ya azzhats smoking thread? Countin' is hard
ZRX1200 Offline
#4 Posted:
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If you buy into a certain belief system there is no misinformation.

I think this is a Biden Miracle, one more and he is officially a Saint.

I can’t tell you HOW MANY times I’ve seen chart notes “Tests negativel and then the prescribing diagnosis was COVID19 “likely”.

HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted:
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The difference between conspiracy theory and fact is around 6 months.
gummy jones Offline
#6 Posted:
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Haven't heard from Fauci in like a month

He must be busy working on the recount
Speyside2 Offline
#7 Posted:
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Repeat after me. 1 comorbidity, 2 comorbidities, 3 comorbidities, old age.
frankj1 Offline
#8 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Even Blue Massachusetts admits it: We over counted the deaths due to Covid.

About 4,000 are no longer dead. From covid, at least.
24k to 20k.
Overnight.


I wonder if this was part of the THE MODEL?


I saw this in today's Boston Globe.



frankj1 Offline
#9 Posted:
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gummy jones wrote:
Haven't heard from Fauci in like a month

He must be busy working on the recount

Also in today's Boston Globe, Fauci spoke about the work now being done to develop a vaccine that will be variant-proof, pointing out why these pan-coronavirus vaccines will take longer to develop than the Operation Warp Speed program.

"You had a product to work with. That is development, not discovery"

New research is looking at T-cells to target weak spots found in coronaviruses found in other parts than the spike protein that was the focus of current waves. This will take a lot longer and may not be needed for every one of the variants.

BuckyB93 Offline
#10 Posted:
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Wait, so the Rona isn't as deadly as what the "experts" were feeding us all this time? Prolly just a rounding error.
Mike3316 Offline
#11 Posted:
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I've had IT twice. I had the original strain back in Feb 2020- before they knew what it was. Then I had Delta this past Jan. My Dr told me I've got natural immunity and Tcells up the wazoo. He also said "the official recommendation" is that I should STILL get jabbed. When I asked why? He really didnt have an answer beyond "just to be safe". Fortunately I've been going to him long enough he didnt get offended when I told him to kiss my ass. Lol
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#12 Posted:
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Overcount? I thought they stopped counting over a year ago, back when they had the rolling counters all over MSM pinning each and every number on the bad orange man.
HockeyDad Offline
#13 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Wait, so the Rona isn't as deadly as what the "experts" were feeding us all this time? Prolly just a rounding error.


The whole thing was rather vanilla.
Mr. Jones Offline
#14 Posted:
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I guess the got tired of overtime?
Working on COVID DEATH CERTIFICATE
FUNERAL PAYMENTS APPLICATIONS....


I TELL YOU WHAT....

EVERY FREAKIN GOVT OFFICE AND STATE AND LOCAL GVT WORKERS HAS USED THIS COVID PANDEMIC AS A MEANS TO DO EVEN LESS FRIGGIN WORK THAN THEY DID IN 2019
WHICH WAS MINIMAL...AT BEST...

NOW everyone is sitting at their desks , playing in their phones, making stock market purchases on Ameritrade for free and hanging up the phone when it rings or sending it to voice mail , then they delete it ..

I never saw a such a bunch of lazy losers, non responders and gold Brickers as I have at THE LANCASTER , PA CITY WATER BUREAU OFFICE IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!
THEY won't talk to you in person, they won't answer their phones, they won't answer written letters at all....
These people are beyond all reproach and do absolutely nothing at work...
BuckyB93 Offline
#15 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
The whole thing was rather vanilla.


Yeah... the CDC, the WHO, and the proclaimed "experts" involved in this whole think lost a ton of credibility from my perspective.

I'm not saying it was some schemed Dr. Evil plot but they definitely went way too far, way too fast on almost every level in stirring up hysteria and fear. They contradicted themselves over and over again and were not questioned.

Echo chamber, group think with blinders on... meanwhile the pubic and MSM lined up in formation like good little soldiers under the auspices of "doing the patriotic thing" and "for the greater good of society."

Anyone that challenged them was ostracized and labeled accordingly.
RayR Offline
#16 Posted:
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Jonesy is right, the progressive NET TAX CONSUMERS are a bunch of lazy crooked BUM grifters. From my own backyard...
While the lowly peeps were suffering under COVID tyranny, creeps like this were illegally lining their pockets:

INVESTIGATION: HEALTH COMMISSIONER MUST PAY BACK OVERTIME BILLED TO TAXPAYERS

December 28, 2021

Quote:
Office of Erie County Comptroller issues report showing the $336,148 in overtime and comp time paid to Dr. Gale Burstein was improper and against state law.

(BUFFALO) – Erie County Comptroller Stefan I. Mychajliw Jr. released a report on overtime paid to Erie County Health Commissioner Gale Burstein, highlighting hundreds of thousands of dollars that were paid improperly under state law, and as such must be paid back. The Comptroller points to a provision under state law that as an appointed position, the law states the Erie County Health Commissioner is not eligible to be paid overtime. Dr. Burstein has been paid a combined total of $336,148 in overtime and comp time for 2020 and 2021. Those overtime payments are in addition to her base salary of $207,292 in 2020 and $209,044 in 2021.

New York State Public Health Law section 351 allows counties to appoint a physician as a health commissioner, which Erie County did with Dr. Gale Burstein. That same law states that her compensation shall be “fixed” by the legislature. Because the legislature annually fixes the health commissioner’s salary at a set and specific rate of $209,044 in 2021, for example, the law states she cannot then earn additional revenue overtime. Her overtime amounted to additional payments of $176,819 in 2021.

The report points to a second reason why the Erie County Health Commissioner is not entitled to overtime. In Erie County, managerial confidential compensation matches the union negotiated CSEA contract, unless stated otherwise elsewhere. The CSEA contract specifically prohibits “employees who are required to have a medical degree” from receiving overtime.

“Commissioner Burstein has a medical degree and was appointed to that position. Since medical doctors are exempt from overtime, that means she does not qualify to receive it. The additional compensation is improper and illegal. Dr. Burstein needs to pay it back before the county is sued, costing taxpayers even more money on top of her exorbitant overtime,” said Comptroller Mychajliw.

This is another example of how the Erie County Health Commissioner has improperly received overtime to which she was not entitled throughout her tenure.

“It is unreasonable to suggest the Health Commissioner pay $336,148 back all at once. The Department of Personnel should work out a reasonable repayment plan that would allow Dr. Burstein to pay back the illegal overtime payments over her remaining tenure as Commissioner. A repayment plan should be implemented quickly.”

“The law and contract are crystal clear: anyone with a medical degree is exempt from receiving overtime. This needs to be remedied quickly to avoid costly litigation. To protect taxpayers, the Personnel Office should establish a repayment plan immediately. The Erie County attorney is also conflicted on this issue, considering he is also a direct Poloncarz appointee that received COVID related overtime. Litigation could commence quickly if the Poloncarz Administration doesn’t take action,” concluded Comptroller Mychajliw.

Dr. Gale Burstein’s set salary is $216,122 in 2022.

https://www2.erie.gov/comptroller/index.php?q=press/investigation-health-commissioner-must-pay-back-overtime-billed-taxpayers



MACS Offline
#17 Posted:
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Been saying this from the jump... and many on this very forum said it was not the flu, and muh fuggas be dyin', and I should get the shot, and it was socially irresponsible of me not to do so, and the muh fuggin' shot is prefectly safe... blabbidy, blah, blah...

In recent news... Pfizer was forced, yes via court order, to release information they wanted kept secret for 70 years... and it shows a whole lot of adverse side effects.

Never tested on humans. Until now. #notyourfugginguineapig
Plowboy221 Offline
#18 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
Been saying this from the jump... and many on this very forum said it was not the flu, and muh fuggas be dyin', and I should get the shot, and it was socially irresponsible of me not to do so, and the muh fuggin' shot is prefectly safe... blabbidy, blah, blah...

In recent news... Pfizer was forced, yes via court order, to release information they wanted kept secret for 70 years... and it shows a whole lot of adverse side effects.

Never tested on humans. Until now. #notyourfugginguineapig



Poor teedubbya
HockeyDad Offline
#19 Posted:
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Plowboy221 wrote:
Poor teedubbya


‘Rona got him.
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People go "now, Robin, how do I know if I'm an alcoholic?" Well as one, let me give you some warning signs. Number one, after a night of heavy drinking, you wake up fully clothed going "Hey! Somebody chit in my pants!"
- RW
MACS Offline
#21 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
‘Rona got him.


No... no... I'm sure it was the "I know better than you do, I'm supah smaht... I got access to the data... you just don't understand"... and then he dropped off the fuggin map because he was a straight LIAR and now he can't face the music.

Sorry, Tee... either show up and face the music... or be labeled a gawd damned liar for eternity.

PLEASE, pretty please... come on back and explain how you knew better all along... and how now the SCIENCE shows, oh WAIT! No ya didn't.

Super safe, right? Not just the flu, right? Soooooo many will die, right? Way, super contagious, right? Masks work, right? The shot prevents you from getting covid, right?

How many times can one dude be wrong? And I was the idiot... right?

Where are you Timmay!! Where the actual frank are you? I know you're reading this... and I know you want to speak up. But you were wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong again... so ya gotta stay in hiding, right, bro?

Pull those covers up tight. Turn off the light and shut the door. Maybe the boogey man covid will go away.

But Pepperidge Farms... they'll remember.
BuckyB93 Offline
#22 Posted:
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I wouldn't call him a liar. I just think he got caught up in the whole hurricane of what was going on. Can't blame him for eating the cheese that was fed to him, he couldn't go into a meeting with his employer and say it's all BS. He'd be out of a job.

Now the whole attitude of I know better, I have information that you are not privy to, I talk daily on Zoom with experts and stuff, I'm ears deep into this stuff and live it day after day, you're not smart enough to understand ... but couldn't back it up when challenged. That part is his doing.

How many "experts" have been on record and publicly say that they were wrong? Not many.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x237vwo
bgz Offline
#23 Posted:
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You talk a lot of sh*t about other people's careers for being a walmart greeter.

You act like you have credibility... you don't.
Brewha Offline
#24 Posted:
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MACS wrote:
No... no... I'm sure it was the "I know better than you do, I'm supah smaht... I got access to the data... you just don't understand"... and then he dropped off the fuggin map because he was a straight LIAR and now he can't face the music.

Sorry, Tee... either show up and face the music... or be labeled a gawd damned liar for eternity.

PLEASE, pretty please... come on back and explain how you knew better all along... and how now the SCIENCE shows, oh WAIT! No ya didn't.

Super safe, right? Not just the flu, right? Soooooo many will die, right? Way, super contagious, right? Masks work, right? The shot prevents you from getting covid, right?

How many times can one dude be wrong? And I was the idiot... right?

Where are you Timmay!! Where the actual frank are you? I know you're reading this... and I know you want to speak up. But you were wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong again... so ya gotta stay in hiding, right, bro?

Pull those covers up tight. Turn off the light and shut the door. Maybe the boogey man covid will go away.

But Pepperidge Farms... they'll remember.

You’re just mad cause he called you a poopy head.
tonygraz Offline
#25 Posted:
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I remember when MACS was almost OK. Then he retired and decided he would become a self anointed genius by finding reasons why all experts were wrong. Remember when he said he had already had the covid and was immune ? I think it was about a year or so before he really got the omicron.
bgz Offline
#26 Posted:
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I was an early adopter... I got hit pretty hard with the ****, but not like hospital hard, but I was coughing for a few weeks.

It sucked enough that when a vaccine came out... I was like I don't want that sh*t again... I'll just take my chances with the jab...

For those that haven't got hit with it... it really does suck.

Brewha Offline
#27 Posted:
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We had several get it hard. The daughter in law spent 8 day in the hospital and almost didn’t make it.

Yet many here Reacted to Covid by denying it - cause that’s what they do….
ZRX1200 Offline
#28 Posted:
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Denied it? Huh….
BuckyB93 Offline
#29 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
You talk a lot of sh*t about other people's careers for being a walmart greeter.

You act like you have credibility... you don't.


You seem to have a fetish and try to belittle my current position of employment (FYI it's not a Walmart greater) while I go to school to get another degree in a different field. I'll gladly stack up my resume against yours.

You mad that you are pigeonholed with a small single area of expertise and one dimensional? You sound mad.

Two NINE!
bgz Offline
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No... you're the one trying to discredit everyone... I'm just reminding people what you do. You talk about your work history and putting it up against anyone's.... meh.

You're trying to discredit true professionals from your position... it needs to be called out.

Talk sh*t about Fauci or what ever... but from what I can tell, TDub has done better in life than you... he's a good guy, and you constantly sh*t on him as you're coming from a position of superiority...

Dude... it needs to be said...
ZRX1200 Offline
#31 Posted:
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Don’t make me tie you two together for recess….
Plowboy221 Offline
#32 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
No... you're the one trying to discredit everyone... I'm just reminding people what you do. You talk about your work history and putting it up against anyone's.... meh.

You're trying to discredit true professionals from your position... it needs to be called out.

Talk sh*t about Fauci or what ever... but from what I can tell, TDub has done better in life than you... he's a good guy, and you constantly sh*t on him as you're coming from a position of superiority...

Dude... it needs to be said...



Yeah but Tim is into being **** on……Starfish
bgz Offline
#33 Posted:
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Plowboy221 wrote:
Yeah but Tim is into being **** on……Starfish


Sh*t....

You got me there.

Carry on.
BuckyB93 Offline
#34 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
No... you're the one trying to discredit everyone... I'm just reminding people what you do. You talk about your work history and putting it up against anyone's.... meh.

You're trying to discredit true professionals from your position... it needs to be called out.

Talk sh*t about Fauci or what ever... but from what I can tell, TDub has done better in life than you... he's a good guy, and you constantly sh*t on him as you're coming from a position of superiority...

Dude... it needs to be said...


My memory is not what it used to be... when have I discredited anyone? I'm just pointing out facts.

Now you are tossing in "TDub has better in life than you"? Do you have secret insight in my life or Tdubs and able to compare them? And at what level? What is your yardstick on comparing one life to another? (smoke a bowl and contemplate that). I don't try to rank my life vs others. I don't walk in their shoes. I rank my life on my what I want out of it and what I want to achieve while my short time here.

I have never claimed superiority over anyone, I haven't $hit on Tdub. I like conversing with him and respect him. On this topic of COVID, I don't think he's been correct but hind sight is 20/20. I just think on this topic many self proclaimed "experts" (he did put himself in that category) were wrong.

If it was the apocalypse as we were fed, I'm sure the "experts" would be large and proud saying "I told you so!"
bgz Offline
#35 Posted:
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Well, you always like to mention how I like to enjoy my weed as a reason to discredit anything I say... so all is fair in love and war I suppose.

Anyway, carry on, I just wanted to make sure it was noted for any passer bys.
BuckyB93 Offline
#36 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Well, you always like to mention how I like to enjoy my weed as a reason to discredit anything I say... so all is fair in love and war I suppose.

Anyway, carry on, I just wanted to make sure it was noted for any passer bys.


I don't discredit you, nor judging you. Just pointing out a fact that the majority of your posts are you being a troll and most probably under the influence of mind altering substances while trying to incite reactions from others.

You be you, I be me.
bgz Offline
#37 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
I don't discredit you, nor judging you. Just pointing out a fact that the majority of your posts are you being a troll and most probably under the influence of mind altering substances while trying to incite reactions from others.

You be you, I be me.


I think that's what's on display herejester
DrMaddVibe Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 52,214
MACS wrote:
No... no... I'm sure it was the "I know better than you do, I'm supah smaht... I got access to the data... you just don't understand"... and then he dropped off the fuggin map because he was a straight LIAR and now he can't face the music.

Sorry, Tee... either show up and face the music... or be labeled a gawd damned liar for eternity.

PLEASE, pretty please... come on back and explain how you knew better all along... and how now the SCIENCE shows, oh WAIT! No ya didn't.

Super safe, right? Not just the flu, right? Soooooo many will die, right? Way, super contagious, right? Masks work, right? The shot prevents you from getting covid, right?

How many times can one dude be wrong? And I was the idiot... right?

Where are you Timmay!! Where the actual frank are you? I know you're reading this... and I know you want to speak up. But you were wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong again... so ya gotta stay in hiding, right, bro?

Pull those covers up tight. Turn off the light and shut the door. Maybe the boogey man covid will go away.

But Pepperidge Farms... they'll remember.


Preach it bro...amen.

When he posted his "links" here and it was a clearinghouse for the CDC.. I suspected he was full of crap. He always was. Cheese slid off his cracker with him bashing away on who he would call Blinky McFlightsuit...yet he could fly a fighter jet...TW peddled lies with a side of crap all for a payday from his masters at Big Pharma...exposed and laid wide open here for all to see. A liar.
tailgater Offline
#39 Posted:
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I was so afraid of the MODEL that I got jabbed twice with Trump's vaccine.


I'm not getting the Biden booster.
I might get the next generation if they ever make it. Assuming my doctor tells me it's for my health, rather than my news media telling me it's for the politics.




bgz Offline
#40 Posted:
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The Delta seems to have been phased out by the fast moving Omicron.

The Omicron variants appears to have the strains that made it because they evolved the ability to beat the jab so to speak.

So from what I've been reading over the past week, it appears vaccinations actually did something... it allowed omicron to outcompete delta...

And I'm pretty sure that's a good thing.

I'm obviously no pro in the field and I have access to the same materials you do, so on this topic, I can safely say I don't know sh*t... I can safely say the same about any of you.
tailgater Offline
#41 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
The Delta seems to have been phased out by the fast moving Omicron.

The Omicron variants appears to have the strains that made it because they evolved the ability to beat the jab so to speak.

So from what I've been reading over the past week, it appears vaccinations actually did something... it allowed omicron to outcompete delta...

And I'm pretty sure that's a good thing.

I'm obviously no pro in the field and I have access to the same materials you do, so on this topic, I can safely say I don't know sh*t... I can safely say the same about any of you.


The model was right!




Sunoverbeach Offline
#42 Posted:
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If there was a pill that allowed you to drink and not get drunk, an alcoholic would go "What happens if you take two?
- RW
BuckyB93 Offline
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^ This is true
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