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Supreme Court Roe v. Wade Draft Decision Leaked
zitotczito Offline
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The Democrats destroy everything they touch and now they have done it to the Supreme Court. The lesson is that Democrats will do anything and I mean anything to get their way and will destroy anything and anyone to do it. You can never trust a Democrat, and I mean never.

The person who did this must have their career destroyed, period!
frankj1 Offline
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what if it's Alito? He's no lib.
Wanna kill him anyway?
Speyside2 Offline
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Could you explain the above more clearly? If Politico is correct, which I imagine they are, 5 conservative Republican judges broke SCOTUS. I think it would be naive of myself to say that SCOTUS now is political, that has been the case for quite some time. But for a long time it was balanced 4 vs 4 with a swing vote. This vote goes against the will of the American people as far as I can tell. 30% wanted the overturn, 69% didn't want the overturn, and 1% undecided as far as I can tell. If you would explain how you concluded that the Democrats caused Roe V Wade to be overturned that would be quite enlightening.
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I thought he meant destroy the leaker...such rage!
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See, I had some drugs and sh1t right now, I wouldn't give a fucq. But I'd come off stage, and I still wouldn't give a fucq. Then, by the time you're 50, a lotta 'no-givin-a-fucq', you missed part your life.
- RP
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Are they going to overturn it? I don't think they should.

If so... I think men and women better be a whole lot more careful when they do the deed. They'll no longer be able to abort a life due to inconvenience.
zitotczito Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
Could you explain the above more clearly? If Politico is correct, which I imagine they are, 5 conservative Republican judges broke SCOTUS. I think it would be naive of myself to say that SCOTUS now is political, that has been the case for quite some time. But for a long time it was balanced 4 vs 4 with a swing vote. This vote goes against the will of the American people as far as I can tell. 30% wanted the overturn, 69% didn't want the overturn, and 1% undecided as far as I can tell. If you would explain how you concluded that the Democrats caused Roe V Wade to be overturned that would be quite enlightening.


Well let me try and explain:

1.) I did not say that the Supreme Court was political.
2.) I did not render a statement regarding what the vote was nor did I say anything about the will of the people.
3.) I did not say that the Democrats caused Roe V Wade to be overturned.

Now I have to admit that at this point we do not know who the leaker actually was but I think that the odds that it was a conservative is about 1 in 1,000,000,000,000. Democrats have lied about and destroyed the lives of many people who they determine are enemies of their warped ideology.

Now I do not condone violence so I do not condone killing someone, but I can see why some here went there since Democrat policies do get people killed.
frankj1 Offline
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don't kill.
destroy the life but keep them alive.
Not cruel, not rage.
Right.

Alito or his "people" are the early favorites.
zitotczito Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
don't kill.
destroy the life but keep them alive.
Not cruel, not rage.
Right.

Alito or his "people" are the early favorites.


Since some are stuck on violence I changed the statement to use the word "career."
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you wrote:
"The Democrats destroy everything they touch and now they have done it to the Supreme Court. The lesson is that Democrats will do anything and I mean anything to get their way and will destroy anything and anyone to do it. You can never trust a Democrat, and I mean never.

The person who did this must have their life destroyed, period!"




what did I get wrong?
zitotczito Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
you wrote:
"The Democrats destroy everything they touch and now they have done it to the Supreme Court. The lesson is that Democrats will do anything and I mean anything to get their way and will destroy anything and anyone to do it. You can never trust a Democrat, and I mean never.

The person who did this must have their life destroyed, period!"




what did I get wrong?


You did not get anything wrong, just that there are multiple meanings for destroyed and you took only one meaning.
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If the last 10-12 years show any pattern than Zito is probably assuming correctly.

I would ask two questions for motive.

What do the “conservative” judges gain for republiCANTS?

What do the “liberal” justices gain for democRATS?

When midterms are likely to be a landslide I’d image firing up and fundraising for the left is big one. I don’t see what the right gains by this at all….the dyed in the wool pro life voters are sheep.
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I just want to point out that overturning Roe would not, in and of itself, make abortions illegal. It would simply leave the decision up to the individual states to determine if abortion will be legal in those states. Every state would get to decide for itself.
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I just want to point out that overturning Roe would not, in and of itself, make abortions illegal. It would simply leave the decision up to the individual states to determine if abortion will be legal in those states. Every state would get to decide for itself.


And perhaps the death of the DNC piggybank...Planned Parenthood.

Thus ending the taxpayer funded murder mills.
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Never been a leak before.. ever... until Biden's justice gets there... Mellow
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I just want to point out that overturning Roe would not, in and of itself, make abortions illegal. It would simply leave the decision up to the individual states to determine if abortion will be legal in those states. Every state would get to decide for itself.


California is an abortion sanctuary state. We will have vacation packages.
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OK, now I follow what you are talking about. Just guessing, I think the leak was not from a member of SCOTUS. It could have been anyone from a clerk to a court recorder. I do not consider a leak the destruction of SCOTUS. That is why my first post went how it did. For myself the politicalization of SCOTUS has lead to it's destruction. We no longer have checks and balances. This has been so for a while. I see a fundamental shift in how SCOTUS works. They base decisions on how they interpret the constitution instead of how they understand the constitution. Certainly a subtle difference, but one I find extraordinarily critical.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Gotta admit its a hard attempt to sway the court though.
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zitotczito wrote:
You did not get anything wrong, just that there are multiple meanings for destroyed and you took only one meaning.


Frank takes everything so literally, he's such a sissy.

I don't think the leaker will have their career destroyed, probably just get advanced to the Disinformation Governance Board (DGB)






RayR Offline
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Stogie1020 wrote:
I just want to point out that overturning Roe would not, in and of itself, make abortions illegal. It would simply leave the decision up to the individual states to determine if abortion will be legal in those states. Every state would get to decide for itself.


Of course, you are right, but that's the very thing the Progturds hate. They'll be rioting in the streets and burning down cities again to show their OUTRAGE.
They hate federalism, as all nationalists do, all that constitutional stuff about the reserved powers that are not specifically given to the general government and are reserved for the states. You can't build a Marxist Utopia with complete authoritarian top-down control with a system like that.
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So I’m watching the news, and multiple astroturf signs “Donate to Abortions”…..

Yeah Spey very likely it was an unhappy clerk. My money would be on a self absorbed millennial.
8trackdisco Offline
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Am guessing the decision was leaked by a lefty. This is disastrous for everyone.

-For Repubs chances at taking back the House and Senate. Talk about the one way to energize the Dems base.
-For the Dem political action committees and the money the left will invest in this going their way.
-For the LGBT crew, becoming more disenfranchised as their special status should get them to the front of the line for abortions.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Notice all the hot takes, whiners and placard holders parents didn't abort them?

Yeah.
DrafterX Offline
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The Leaker should be prosecuted for inciting an insurection... Not talking
Stogie1020 Offline
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So, presumably, Twitter will ban all mention of this draft oppinion since it is techincally "stolen/hacked" material like the Hunter Biden laptop, right?
Stogie1020 Offline
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Also, see how easy it was to get everyone to stop thinking about:

Inflation
The Border Crisis
Gas Prices
the Ministry of Disinformation
POTUS's record low poll numbers
Hunter Biden
Etc...
RayR Offline
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I just heard Blowhard Chucky Schumer grandstanding and calling for the leftist mob to rise up and attack them right-wing Republicans who want to stop all their nationalized sanctioned killin'.
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Stogie1020 wrote:
So, presumably, Twitter will ban all mention of this draft oppinion since it is techincally "stolen/hacked" material like the Hunter Biden laptop, right?


Ask Elon
Speyside2 Offline
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Z, 8, both of you bring up salient points.

Z, I agree the leaker has to be a Democrat, or perhaps a incontinent senior citizen.

8, this is really bad news for the GOP. If the Democrats would use this properly, it could significantly alter upcoming elections. My question is this, do the Democrats actually care about the women this will effect, that more children will be born, and much more by way of spin-off?

I doubt they do. I only see one real difference between the two parties. The group of Americans they get to vote for them and then debase. Gene has said this for years

The two parties do not want us to think for ourselves as Americans. They want us to buy into the obscene world they wish to create. I am 100% fine with people who label themselves as conservatives or liberals. I cannot say the same when those people label themselves as Republicans or Democrats.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Notice all the hot takes, whiners and placard holders parents didn't abort them?

Yeah.


That's just it.
Can anybody (other than the people closest to God) look at Schumer, Pelosi, and Kamala and see zero reason for its consideration?
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Speyside2 wrote:

8, this is really bad news for the GOP. If the Democrats would use this properly, it could significantly alter upcoming elections. My question is this, do the Democrats actually care about the women this will effect, that more children will be born, and much more by way of spin-off?

I doubt they do. I only see one real difference between the two parties. The group of Americans they get to vote for them and then debase. Gene has said this for years
.

Other than the very beginning with our earliest Founding Fathers, it has always been about power, money and prestige.
Get elected one, free healthcare for life. Then you get onto the lobbyist teat from the pharmaceutical & insurance (8 billion combined). Now you've got the money coming in regularly and you are in your tribe and there is nothing the other tribe can say to sway you.

Unless you are Joe Machin in WV or the chick from Arizona. Those are a couple of patriots looking out for people instead of the politics.

Salient? I didn't think I was being salty.
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I have not listened to Christin Simema much. I do not even know how to spell her name. Joe, I may or may not agree with him, but I do stop and listen. Mostly I hear common sense. He really is a Rino. I mean that in the best way possible. He reminds me of John Casek. They both have their faults, but try to make sense of things.
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Speyside2 wrote:
Joe, I may or may not agree with him, but I do stop and listen. Mostly I hear common sense. He really is a Rino. I mean that in the best way possible.


Manchin is a Dem. That is what makes him remarkable. Can't remotely comprehend the pressure the Dems have put on him over the last 18 months.

Wonder if a Repub would have the same level of cajones to stop their party in their tracks if they were to go off unhinged. I'd like to think so, but would likely be disappointed. Unless they reanimate John McCain.

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McShame liked adulation and power.
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Biden says abortions are the Christian thing to do... Mellow
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ZRX1200 wrote:
McShame liked adulation and power.


And to be pegged by Pelosi...he'd give her the Fisheye!!!!Gonz

https://tinyurl.com/5n8j8wxw
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8, I hope there are at least a couple who would take the heat. But I agree, I think it would be unlikely. Z, put away your McCain woody. The point is not if you love or hate McCain. Whether right or wrong, he is about the last Republican not to fold under pressure. Speaking only for myself, Trump was the worst president ever, Biden is working on becoming the worst president ever. Both parties are fracturing America. I would rather see Richard Nixon as president over those two ass clowns.
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Speyside2 wrote:
8, I hope there are at least a couple who would take the heat. But I agree, I think it would be unlikely. Z, put away your McCain woody. The point is not if you love or hate McCain. Whether right or wrong, he is about the last Republican not to fold under pressure. Speaking only for myself, Trump was the worst president ever, Biden is working on becoming the worst president ever. Both parties are fracturing America. I would rather see Richard Nixon as president over those two ass clowns.


Notice how you never hear about the Radical Middle? George Washington didn’t want a two party system. Jefferson and Adams/Hamilton started the division of America. Wonder who will be at the helm when it ends?

Knock down the impediments to a true third party (shockingly created by Dems and Republicans) and maybe they both move toward the middle enough before we completely tear each other apart.
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I hear ya Zito,
The fact that the scotus is even supposed to be sacrosanct eats at their bones.

They are proud to legislate from the bench or from the lawless mobs in the gutter

Separation of powers!?! How dare they think of separating anything! Executive, legislative, Judicial. It's all a deepstate unisex public toilet where they wipe up with the constitution

They would make it night all the time calling the sun racist if they could. End the separation of darkness & light!
Mercy!

But why do they love to kill so many babies, & hate the thought of killing less in maybe 2 or 3 states?

Because those states will likely be more blessed or at the least less cursed

Whatever pisses 'em off more. Do that!
MAGA
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Could we get Nixon's preserved head, like in Futurama?
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Dg west deptford wrote:

Whatever pisses 'em off more. Do that!
MAGA


Book by Matt Taibbi called Hate Inc. speaks to that and so many other things about the 2016 election. He admits the media ( mostly lefties) didn’t think Trump had a chance, but on second thought he recalled the most common refrain from people supporting Trump.

They were different variations of “Frank it, burn it all down, I’m voting Trump”
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"STeve" DID IT...

STEVE HARVEY / FAMILY Feud HOST

(His 24th job is a part-time supreme court law clerk position)
Mr. Jones Offline
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If I had to GUESS????

My money is on that CONSERVATIVE BEAST K.E.N.T.
MARRIED TO THE BLACK SCJ WHO LIKEs PUBIC HAIRS ON HIS COKE CANS...
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Right, left, center..,..none of that means 💩.


There are no rules for those ruling, the framework of our nation is ignored. Lady Liberty got ****ed and can still get an abortion in every state.

There will be a reckoning. And if it isn’t for freedom it’s going to far surpass uhly.
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I had some great things and I had some bad things. The best and the worst…In other words, I had a life.
- RP
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DG, the word abortion is shameful on multiple levels. Either a woman is having a medical procedure or committing first degree murder. It is way beyond my ability to understand this. Also it is for God to judge each of us individually.

I do know this, people have no right in American use their religion as our law. You can look at countries where radical Islam is the government and understand why this must be. Perhaps your absolute belief that our laws should be based on Christianity makes you a better American than I, perhaps not. Perhaps it makes you a better Christian than I, perhaps not.
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Speyside2 wrote:
DG, the word abortion is shameful on multiple levels. Either a woman is having a medical procedure or committing first degree murder. It is way beyond my ability to understand this. Also it is for God to judge each of us individually.

I do know this, people have no right in American use their religion as our law. You can look at countries where radical Islam is the government and understand why this must be. Perhaps your absolute belief that our laws should be based on Christianity makes you a better American than I, perhaps not. Perhaps it makes you a better Christian than I, perhaps not.



Sounds sanitized and removed from reality. No need to word salad up what's really going on here. What's the end goal? Kill a baby...or perhaps your widdle sensibilities prefer fetus...or bundle of goo?

Nothing to do with religion. Kinda hard to enjoy the American journey of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" when your mommy wants to kill you off the bat.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Sounds sanitized and removed from reality. No need to word salad up what's really going on here. What's the end goal? Kill a baby...or perhaps your widdle sensibilities prefer fetus...or bundle of goo?

Nothing to do with religion. Kinda hard to enjoy the American journey of "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness" when your mommy wants to kill you off the bat.


It's the way the left rolls. They yearn to indoctrinate the peeps to be emotionally insensitive to institutionalized state murder just like they do to desensitize them to institutionalized state thievery and slavery.

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When they had Biden's token Black lady up for the bench they all didn't know what a woman was...couldn't define it in any way, shape or form...now, they ALL wanna talk about women...my body my choice...but there's that uncomfortable preggers Bill Gates emoji...so men can now talk about reproductive rights too!

#Caitlyn
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Dg west deptford wrote:
I hear ya Zito,


But why do they love to kill so many babies, & hate the thought of killing less in maybe 2 or 3 states?



13 states have laws in place so if RvW is overturned they will ban almost immediately, approximately 25 total states are expected to move forward with the ban. so its a little more then 2-3...

all that aside it is really laws like in tx that bother me... punishing someone that goes over state lines to do something that is legal in that state... where do you stop that thinking? all Texans that go to Colorado and enjoy some weed should be arrested when they return to Texas? how about locking up any Texans that goes to the bunny ranch for some adult entertainment? how about those that go across state lines to buy Liquor on a Sunday? should they be arrested when they return to Texas as well?
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