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The Pain You Feel is All Part of the 'Incredible Transition' from Fossil Fuels
BuckyB93 Offline
#51 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
This is all I'm getting at. We can transition to more and more clearer energy production - a good thing.

And we have started the transition to more efficient use of power. Moving to LED bulbs in stead of incandescent is better than a 6:1 power savings.

Sort of like getting the lead out of gas (a really, really good thing) we just need to do it.


But LED bulbs don't work for cooking cakes or brownies in an Easy Bake oven. Why do you hate kids so much?
DrafterX Offline
#52 Posted:
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I could sure go for some brownies about now... Mellow
CelticBomber Offline
#53 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
You should look into it. It is an incredible transformation that I assume you want to be a part of going forward.



You can't say that anymore! Pretty sure it's racist or something. Not talking
Brewha Offline
#54 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
You should look into it. It is an incredible transformation that I assume you want to be a part of going forward.

Kidding aside, if I had the coin lying around they would be it installing today.

Texas has a republican power grid not connected to the rest of the US - for the profit of the oil barons. Lots of people died a winter or two ago when it failed (unregulated = FREEDOM!).
Brewha Offline
#55 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
But LED bulbs don't work for cooking cakes or brownies in an Easy Bake oven. Why do you hate kids so much?

Uh……because my childhood was stolen from me?
Speyside2 Offline
#56 Posted:
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Maybe the problem isn't the led bulb, but rather the easy bake oven. But I get it you are wired for incandescent and have already burned out. So sad.
frankj1 Offline
#57 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I could sure go for some brownies about now... Mellow

move quickly or they'll turn into Girl Scouts
Mr. Jones Offline
#58 Posted:
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Joe Stranosa can kiss my starfish...

It now costs me $47.00 to get 1/2 a tank....

I used to fill my tank for $38-39....

If this lasts much longer....millions of people and total family units will fall into poverty level status...

I am already at poverty level status in retirement at $11,400.00 a yr on social security....I can't take much more...
I work harder now than when I was working...and can barely get by financially...thank God I'm in decent health and can still do physical labor albiet trash picking and metal recycling like a big city BUM pushing around an old shopping cart filled with soda cans.....

Thanks a pant load FBI-SSG DIVISION for stealing all my grandfather's inhiertence $$1+ million in cash...and turning me into a bum....it's soooo' much fun I can barely contain my happiness and gratitude....I hope you all get terminal illnesses like you deserve in spades.....the world would be a much better place without you sick murdering felon pricks...
ZRX1200 Offline
#59 Posted:
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https://youtu.be/P7EFCIOwexg
Brewha Offline
#60 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
move quickly or they'll turn into Girl Scouts

Applause
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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freaks... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
#62 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Kidding aside, if I had the coin lying around they would be it installing today.

Texas has a republican power grid not connected to the rest of the US - for the profit of the oil barons. Lots of people died a winter or two ago when it failed (unregulated = FREEDOM!).



If you cared about the climate you would find the money to buy solar. In California we mandate that you find the money. We can’t wait for people to do the right thing voluntarily.

I don’t know how you live with yourself for buying electricity from a Republican power grid. My power grid always votes Democrat. Well except some of the voltage regulators - they vote Republican. Republicans have also been making inroads with the pad-mounted transformers.
RayR Offline
#63 Posted:
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Why do lefties always say that when anything goes wrong, it's because it was "unregulated"? Huh

It's like they expect you to be dumb enough to believe it as they believe it themselves. Laugh
delta1 Offline
#64 Posted:
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because just before things go seriously wrong, righties find a loophole in regulations that they exploit, for self enrichment at the expense of everyone else (crash of 2008/2009)...then their plot explodes and people get hurt and lose a bunch ...and then when they are caught, righties defend the outlaws and find ways to reduce their penalties ...

the the right guts the regulations that libs put in place to prevent a recurrence...
DrafterX Offline
#65 Posted:
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The right enacted the no bail thing..?? Huh
BuckyB93 Offline
#66 Posted:
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delta1 wrote:
because just before things go seriously wrong, righties find a loophole in regulations that they exploit, for self enrichment at the expense of everyone else (crash of 2008/2009)...then their plot explodes and people get hurt and lose a bunch ...and then when they are caught, righties defend the outlaws and find ways to reduce their penalties ...

the the right guts the regulations that libs put in place to prevent a recurrence...


You can't seriously believe what you spew. Lefties and Righties create and exploit loopholes. They all exploit for self enrichment and entitlement.

If you think Dems are holier than thou over Repubs, then you are blind. Dems get a free pass for the past 10 yrs or so because they also control the media.

Fact, not opinion.
RayR Offline
#67 Posted:
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Lefties are selfless and care about the little people. Righties are greedy and exploit the little people.
delta heard that on CNN. Brick wall
Brewha Offline
#68 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
If you cared about the climate you would find the money to buy solar. In California we mandate that you find the money. We can’t wait for people to do the right thing voluntarily.

I don’t know how you live with yourself for buying electricity from a Republican power grid. My power grid always votes Democrat. Well except some of the voltage regulators - they vote Republican. Republicans have also been making inroads with the pad-mounted transformers.

Here in Texas the election was stolen.
And we liked it…..
BuckyB93 Offline
#69 Posted:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ztdp70peU

Six D NINE!
Brewha Offline
#70 Posted:
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BuckyB93 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ztdp70peU

Six D NINE!



LOL
CelticBomber Offline
#71 Posted:
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RayR wrote:
Lefties are selfless and care about the little people. Righties are greedy and exploit the little people.


Did our little Ray Ray see the light?! Holy cow! Ray if you do see a bright light run towards it! Especially if it's at the other end of a train tunnel! Angel
Brewha Offline
#72 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
Did our little Ray Ray see the light?! Holy cow! Ray if you do see a bright light run towards it! Especially if it's at the other end of a train tunnel! Angel

Ray could be a closet liberal....like macs....
Sunoverbeach Offline
#73 Posted:
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What happens when you fill your shoe with water?
Your foot gets wet.
frankj1 Offline
#74 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
What happens when you fill your shoe with water?
Your foot gets wet.

it seems so obvious when you say it like that
Sunoverbeach Offline
#75 Posted:
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I've discovered a string of "anti-jokes." Delightfully groan worthy with just a touch less humor than a really bad pun. Exquisite
frankj1 Offline
#76 Posted:
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I have been enjoying them
bgz Offline
#77 Posted:
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CelticBomber wrote:
Did our little Ray Ray see the light?! Holy cow! Ray if you do see a bright light run towards it! Especially if it's at the other end of a train tunnel! Angel


Wishful thinking, he scurries when the lights come on.
Brewha Offline
#78 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I've discovered a string of "anti-jokes." Delightfully groan worthy with just a touch less humor than a really bad pun. Exquisite

This is also called German humor...
RayR Offline
#79 Posted:
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I'll just ignore the silly twits with their stupid comments

This is a very interesting talk with Tom Woods and researcher and author Alex Epstein.

Or if not you can just listen to Brewha and Joe Biden and pretend no other rational opinion exists.

We Need More Fossil Fuels

https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/ep.-2131-we-need-more-fossil-fuels:3

Or

https://youtu.be/Q-wPj0SUTYI
Sunoverbeach Offline
#80 Posted:
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Did you hear about the crime that happened in a parking garage?
It was wrong on so many levels.
Brewha Offline
#81 Posted:
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Update on the “pain of transition”:

Took delivery of a Model 3.
0-60 in 4.2 seconds.
350 miles of range.
Charges a full tank overnight I’m my garage.

Costing me about 15 cents on the dollar vs gas for my last car.



“The pain - oh, the pain!”
ZRX1200 Offline
#82 Posted:
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And it runs on coal and natural gas, rare earth minerals are all clean mined…..
RayR Offline
#83 Posted:
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He's focused on 15 cents on the dollar and going 0-60 in 4.2 seconds.
He ignores the cost of the car in factoring in the cost of ownership
He ignores all the toxic pollution that was created to make it and the fossil fuels it takes to make the electricity to charge the batteries

Don't spoil his fun.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#84 Posted:
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When I get naked in the bathroom, the shower usually gets turned on.
Brewha Offline
#85 Posted:
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Another update on “the Pain”:

After a month or so the the math of charging at home vs gas is working out to be more like 20 cents on the dollar. But I still feel good looking forward to not having oil changes or tuneups.

Now get this; I order the car in march and took delivery 3 month later. Since I locking in the price when I ordered, the cost of the car has gone up $6,000. So driving it off the lot put money in my pocket. Because of availability I could easy get more than $8,000 over what I paid if I sold it today.

And the Tesla insurance is costing about $60 a month. Which is a surprise because Allstate was going for date rape when they gave me a quote.




Yeah, going green sux…..
Brewha Offline
#86 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
And it runs on coal and natural gas, rare earth minerals are all clean mined…..

Production of electricity is far cleaner than burning gas in a vehicle.

You really don’t get this - do you?
RayR Offline
#87 Posted:
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Really?

Quote:
"In 2021, about 4,116 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.12 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States.
About 61% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels—coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. About 19% was from nuclear energy, and about 20% was from renewable energy sources."
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3

Sunoverbeach Offline
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I haven't dug down into the specific kWh of charging a vehicle over time vs generation of that power. In spite of Ray being correct (sweet Jesus, take me now for that statement) in the generation breakdown across the country, it is likely there's less pollution to charge an EV long term than drive IC.

The other part of Z's point, I believe, is the extraction process of things such as lithium and cobalt is incredibly damaging environmentally. Major issue in the overall scheme of things? Maybe not, though a few South American villages are hating your azz right now. But it will be if countries and companies continue to push this direction without finding a better way to battery.

Finally, while you get to skip oil and tune ups, Tesla was rated 27th out of 28 companies in reliability last year. Woo hoo, they managed to beat out Lincoln! For your sake, I hope you went with the Model 3. Repair costs are heading your way and Repairpal says costs are 27% higher than the average vehicle. How did Toyota and Honda get big? Reliability. How did Tesla get big? Green hype. Between this and higher initial cost of the vehicle, I don't buy into the savings argument currently.

You're happy with your choice. Good for you, but I'm just not ready to climb on board quite yet
RayR Offline
#89 Posted:
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No one is more hated than one who speaks the truth. 👼

Jesus won't take you, your purgatory is here on CBID forums.
bgz Offline
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The only thing I got out of the last two posts was "buy tsla".
Brewha Offline
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Actually it’s just me thumbing my nose at all the naysayers. They have not clue - yet they are quick to raise concerns.

Now they are worried about the environmental impact of mining?????
bgz Offline
#92 Posted:
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You're right... I should seek out lithium mining companies that haven't already popped.
Sunoverbeach Offline
#93 Posted:
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Is that not a concern if you're "saving the environment?" If you're shooting for the saving money aspect, then cool. Disregard that point
bgz Offline
#94 Posted:
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I'm interested in selling spikes.
Brewha Offline
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I haven't dug down into the specific kWh of charging a vehicle over time vs generation of that power. In spite of Ray being correct (sweet Jesus, take me now for that statement) in the generation breakdown across the country, it is likely there's less pollution to charge an EV long term than drive IC.

The other part of Z's point, I believe, is the extraction process of things such as lithium and cobalt is incredibly damaging environmentally. Major issue in the overall scheme of things? Maybe not, though a few South American villages are hating your azz right now. But it will be if countries and companies continue to push this direction without finding a better way to battery.

Finally, while you get to skip oil and tune ups, Tesla was rated 27th out of 28 companies in reliability last year. Woo hoo, they managed to beat out Lincoln! For your sake, I hope you went with the Model 3. Repair costs are heading your way and Repairpal says costs are 27% higher than the average vehicle. How did Toyota and Honda get big? Reliability. How did Tesla get big? Green hype. Between this and higher initial cost of the vehicle, I don't buy into the savings argument currently.

You're happy with your choice. Good for you, but I'm just not ready to climb on board quite yet


As far as “ratings” go, take them with a grain of salt. Some firms actually rate German cars as reliable….good luck with that. And if you consider what can go wrong on an EV vs an ICE, well the odds are in my favor.

But the real elephant in the room is the whole idea of change.

Conservatives thought is that Change=Bad. Hell to some “Progressive” is some kind of insult.
Think about that - the clowns here, type it on a computer that did not even exist when we were young, saying progress is bad.

I can still remember those people raging about them new seat belts and how it was ruining ‘merca….
Dg west deptford Offline
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Why are nations with the highest ESG scores experiencing civil unrest & destabilizing poverty, famine & death?

Think the 2 things may be related?

Save the planet, kill the people.

Unfortunately killing the people doesn't net green

Your green mileage may vary.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Meh, I've heard more than one story about having to replace a $25k battery bank out of pocket on a $50k-$90k vehicle. Probably less common than stubbing your toe, and more common than lightning striking you. It's enough to concern me and it's my money.

I'm also not saying change is bad. I'd rather drive than hook up the horses every time I need to go to town. I'm saying without forethought and proper planning, other problems can happen. Ask Contergan users how much their anxiety was reduced long term.

I've been in environmental analysis and mitigation in one form or another for nearly two decades. I've seen the wack a mole game repeated as the industry rushes from one gremlin to the next. There needs to be a more holistic approach to these issues. Do I know what that approach is? Nope. Do I think Li batteries are the miracle cure the world needs? Nope.
Brewha Offline
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Oddly the green aspect of EV’s was not what got me looking at them. Nor was the gas savings.

As a Mechanical Engineer I was attracted to the sweeping simplification and the many net benefits of the design approach.

And it’s not just Tesla. Have a look at the Ford Lightning. This thing is effing great.



I have had sports cars / sports sedans my whole life. Worked on most of them. Know all about them.
The new EV’s really are the next level.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Now cool gadget love is a concept I can get behind. Why didn't you just say so?
Brewha Offline
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Because I take issue with the knuckle dragged mentality that says change is bad.

People here push truly uniformed opinions about lowering pollution or implementing better technologies.

Just in automotive, GM, Ford and many others are rolling out some of the most advanced cares ever seen. Never mind all the benefits, some work against them because they are “progressive”. What kind of stupid it that anyway?
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