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Long range missiles for the Ukraine.
Speyside2 Offline
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A good idea or a bad idea? I am unsure though leaning towards a good idea.
RayR Offline
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I've heard giving gifts that will surely fall into the hands of neo-Nazi's is a bad idea.
Speyside2 Offline
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Why do you call the Ukrainians neo-Nazis?
CelticBomber Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
Why do you call the Ukrainians neo-Nazis?


He's a fan of Putin.
rfenst Online
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If from NATO, real good idea, IMO.
RayR Offline
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Speyside2 wrote:
Why do you call the Ukrainians neo-Nazis?


I heard there were Neo-Nazi's in the Ukraine.
I heard Putin has claimed that he ordered the Russian invasion of Ukraine to "denazify" its government.
I heard Putin told his citizens the war was a “special military operation” intended to “demilitarise and de-Nazify” the Ukraine and to protect pro-Russia separatists in the east of the country from genocide.
Have you heard of the "Azov Battalion"? https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Azov_Battalion

What the hell is going on over there Spey?

rfenst Online
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RayR wrote:
I heard there were Neo-Nazi's in the Ukraine.
I heard Putin has claimed that he ordered the Russian invasion of Ukraine to "denazify" its government.
I heard Putin told his citizens the war was a “special military operation” intended to “demilitarise and de-Nazify” the Ukraine and to protect pro-Russia separatists in the east of the country from genocide.
Have you heard of the "Azov Battalion"? https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Azov_Battalion

What the hell is going on over there Spey?


You just cannot help bringing up Nazi's, and your response to Spey is nothin but blather.
RayR Offline
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Even your trusted news source, WAPO talks about Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Geez! Where have you been?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/03/14/neo-nazi-ukraine-war/
Sunoverbeach Offline
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Unwavering support of the motherland. Excellent work, Comrade Ray
BuckyB93 Offline
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Hopefully this ends soon and Putin is taken out of power from inside. The instability in the area would suck though not knowing what or who would fill the vacuum.

China breathing down the neck of Taiwan is going to be an ongoing issue too.
rfenst Online
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RayR wrote:
Even your trusted news source, WAPO talks about Neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Geez! Where have you been?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2022/03/14/neo-nazi-ukraine-war/

You have an obvious attraction to them.
RayR Offline
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нет! нет! нет!

I'm more attracted to knowing what the dirty commie progressives are doing with all that stolen loot they're buying weapons with and who's gonna get their hands on it. Maybe neo-nazis? da?

Twenty-Two House Republicans Demand Accountability on Biden's $40b War Spending

A cohort of Republicans, part of the dissenting vote on Biden's Ukraine war package, seeks oversight and specifics about the destination of U.S. money and weapons.

Glenn Greenwald and Anthony Tobin
May 24

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The House of Representatives, on May 10, approved President Biden's $33 billion package for the war in Ukraine, and then, on its own initiative, added $7 billion on top of it. That brought the new war spending authorization to $40 billion, on top of the $14 billion already spent just 10 weeks into this war, which U.S. officials predict will last years, not months. The House vote in favor was 368-57. All 57 NO votes were from GOP House members. All House Democrats, including the Squad, voted YES.

A similar scene occurred when the Senate, “moving quickly and with little debate,” overwhelmingly approved the same war package. All eleven NO votes were from Senate Republicans. All Senate Democrats, including Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), voted in favor, seemingly in direct contradiction to Sanders’ February 8 op-ed in The Guardian warning of the severe dangers of bipartisan escalation of the war. Efforts by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) to delay passage of the bill so that some safeguards and accountability measures could be included regarding where the money was going and for what purposes it would be used were met with scorn, particularly from Paul's fellow Kentucky GOP Senator, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, who condemned Paul as an “isolationist.” Following the Senate vote, a jet was used to fly the bill across the world to President Biden in South Korea, where he signed it into law.

But the lack of any safeguards over the destination of the money and weapons prompted close to two dozen House Republicans, led by Rep. Yvette Herrell (R-NM), to send a letter to the Biden White House on Monday demanding greater specificity and assurances about legal requirements on how weapons are used. The letter urges a public reckoning on the dangers of the U.S.'s bankrolling of the war in Ukraine: “We write today to express grave concern about the lack of oversight and accountability for the money and weapons recently approved by Congress for Ukraine,” it began.

"The aid package approved by Congress provides unprecedented funding for a foreign conflict in which the United States is not fighting, while there have been no significant hearings or substantive briefings on the use of the money and weapons being provided at taxpayer expense." The lawmakers raised the prospect of sophisticated weaponry falling into the hands of terrorist organizations, citing a documented history of illicit arms-trafficking within Ukraine, a market which is one of the largest in Europe:

"According to a 2017 Small Arms Survey briefing on arms trafficking, over 300,000 small arms disappeared from Ukraine between 2013 and 2015 and only 13 percent were recovered. Criminal networks, corrupt officials, and underpaid military personnel can make a profitable business from the sale of arms from Ukrainian military stockpiles. For example, in 2019, the Ukrainian Security Service uncovered a plot by Ukrainian soldiers to sell 40 RGD-5 grenades, 15 grenade launchers, 30 grenade detonators, and 2,454 rounds of ammunition for 75,000 Ukrainian hryvnia or around $2,900."

More...

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/twenty-two-house-republicans-demand?s=r
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RayR wrote:
нет! нет! нет!

I'm more attracted to knowing what the dirty commie progressives are doing with all that stolen loot they're buying weapons with and who's gonna get their hands on it. Maybe neo-nazis? da?

Twenty-Two House Republicans Demand Accountability on Biden's $40b War Spending

A cohort of Republicans, part of the dissenting vote on Biden's Ukraine war package, seeks oversight and specifics about the destination of U.S. money and weapons.

Glenn Greenwald and Anthony Tobin
May 24
I am sure that is a major, sincere concern of yours.
Sunoverbeach Offline
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What’s funnier than having the flu?
Most things really.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Robert, maybe you’re not aware of the Democrats removing language for funding so that a neo-Nazi group could receive funds/arms…..
RayR Offline
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Robert is a Neo-Nazi denier. He can't believe his government's interventionist foreign policy is so franked up and has been so for a very long time with nafarious people in control of the purse strings, handing out the stolen loot to the worst people in the world.
Prolly thinks it can't happen here because this is Amerika and we have laws and stuff.

https://sovren.media/video/is-33-billion-in-u-s-funding-to-ukraine-going-to-nazi-s-1115.html
Sunoverbeach Offline
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What’s brown and sticky?
Mud.
frankj1 Offline
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I was gonna guess something else
MACS Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
I was gonna guess something else


Careful where ya put that thing!
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MACS wrote:
Careful where ya put that thing!

you're a good friend.
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