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DeSantis vs. Disney
HockeyDad Offline
#251 Posted:
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I wonder if Disney will come out as pro-abortion.
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#252 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
I wonder if Disney will come out as pro-abortion.


Prolly, it's a good progressive business practice to kill as many potential future customers they say.
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An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.
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The earlier the gay people I know came out, the less affected they seem to be by others' bigotry.
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rfenst wrote:
The earlier the gay people I know came out, the less affected they seem to be by others' bigotry.


I don' think anyone wants to hear about your gay bar adventures. Just sayin'
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RayR wrote:
I don' think anyone wants to hear about your gay bar adventures. Just sayin'


Speak for yourself.
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A love a good romance book.
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Democracy is three wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
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No Trans Disney World for me. Screw that woke chit. First campaigning to have school children from pre-k to third grade groomed in gender identity politics and removing any mention of there being such things as boys and girls in the park, and now ripping off families like they are the government or something.

Tragic Kingdom: Disney Park Experience Soars Past Affordability for Average American Family

by WARNER TODD HUSTON
23 May 2022

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It look like the magic is gone. The costs of visiting many of Disney’s theme parks have soared out of range for the average American family, according to a report.

Families are finding the price tag of going to Walt Disney World, for instance, creeping past the ten thousand-dollar mark, making the trip too expensive for even middle-class families, Fox Business Network reported.

While Disney’s several parks still sport high customer satisfaction rates, FBN added that many of the most recent customer reviews are beginning to turn sour as Disney has cut many services that were once free (or low cost) and pumped up prices overall.

More...

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/05/23/tragic-kingdom-disney-park-experience-soars-past-affordability-for-average-american-family/


Go Woke Go Broke!
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^This is not knowledge recently acquired. Cost has been insane for years

What do you call a teacher who gives out too much homework?
Horrible.
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Disney delays moving 2,000 jobs to Orlando amid ‘don’t say gay’ clash with DeSantis


Orlando Sentinel

Amid the feud with Gov. Ron DeSantis over the so-called “don’t say gay” law, the Walt Disney Co. has delayed for more than three years plans to move about 2,000 high-paying jobs to Orlando from California.

Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahler said Wednesday the expected opening date for the Lake Nona campus was pushed to 2026 to “give people more time” and accommodate the construction timeline for the new offices. A Disney representative previously told the Orlando Sentinel the offices were expected to be operating in Orlando by December 2022.

Wahler said the dispute with DeSantis had nothing to do with the delay.

But the news follows tension between Disney and DeSantis that began in March over the company’s response to Florida’s “don’t say gay” law and has continued since. DeSantis signed laws to dissolve Disney World’s Reedy Creek Improvement District and void Disney’s exemption under social media censorship legislation.

Some conservatives called for boycotts of the company in early April, though public calls for protest were short-lived.

State Rep. Anna Eskamani, D-Orlando, attributed the decision to Disney’s battle with Florida leaders over what is officially called the Parental Rights in Education legislation, saying “these culture wars have an economic cost.”

The law prohibits instruction about sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade and in higher grades whenever such lessons are not considered “age appropriate.” LGBTQ+ organizations and advocates have said the law perpetuates discrimination and voiced concerns it could have a chilling effect on teachers and students.

“We’ve made the point all along, during debate on this bill, that attacking LGBTQ+ people ... is not only just bad politics or ‘culture wars,’ but it’s bad for the economy,” Eskamani said.

“It might be good for DeSantis’ base, but at the end of the day, top talent does not want to call a state that supports these policies home,” she added. “And so this is absolutely an illustration of that point that we’ve been making this entire time.”

The governor’s office did not respond to a request for comment.

Disney is poised to receive tax breaks totaling over $570 million by moving more than 2,000 jobs in its Parks, Experiences and Products division to Lake Nona. The average salary for the relocating positions is $120,000.

Around 90% of the affected jobs are in Imagineering, the company’s main creative design division, Disney analyst Jim Hill told the Orlando Sentinel in November.

This is the first time Disney has confirmed an updated timeline for the Lake Nona move in recent months, though since-deleted job listings posted in May hinted at a possible delay.

A May 3 post on the Disney Careers website advertised an Imagineering job to be based in Glendale, Calif., that was described as part of a team that would relocate to Orlando “in late 2024.” The listing, seeking an executive for the new experience development team, is no longer accessible on the website.

Another former posting, seeking a technology studio executive for Imagineering, was listed as a hybrid position based in Orlando and Lake Buena Vista. It had the same notice of relocation.

Disney did not respond when asked about the job postings at the time.

The company is positioned to invest up to $864 million in building the regional hub in Lake Nona. A company associated with Walt Disney World paid over $46 million for 60 acres near Lake Nona’s Medical City last year in a deal that would allow Disney to build 1.8 million square feet of office space.

Current employees with jobs slated for relocation to Florida were informed on a rolling basis last year, with the final group notified by Nov. 1. They had three months to decide whether to move, and Disney said it would provide relocation assistance to affected employees.

But employees, especially those within Imagineering, appeared to be resistant to the cross-country trek.

According to people with Imagineering contacts, including a former employee and Hill, worker morale was low after the transition was announced. They said Disney stood to lose a “large number” of affected employees, especially veteran Imagineers with longstanding ties to California.

In December, former Imagineering President Bob Weis stepped down from his leadership role to a California-based position within the division. At the time, a spokeswoman said his decision was not due to Imagineering’s move to Florida.

Theme park industry experts appear hopeful that the Lake Nona campus opening will offer more jobs to graduates of local theme park design and management programs and attract international talent to Orlando.

The themed entertainment industry has centralized in the Orlando area in recent years, with organizations such as the International Association of Amusement Parks and Attractions moving its headquarters here and themed entertainment companies who work with major theme parks increasingly announcing the openings of new Central Florida offices.
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Anyone want to buy some land?
HockeyDad Offline
#263 Posted:
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You don’t want land in Florida. It covered with Covid-19 bodies.
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I hear that African American, Elon Musk said he will vote for DeSantis if he runs for President.
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That awkward moment when you leave a store without buying anything and all you can think is "act natural, you're innocent".
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Robert, that sounds like a potentially huge loss of revenue for Florida. How is DeSantis trying to deflect that?
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There is a price that has to be paid to rid Florida of LGBTQ+ cartoon characters grooming children.
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So giving Disney a massive tax break in Florida and loosing massive tax revenues from Disney in Florida is a great idea? I wonder how many Flordinians will agree with you if the get massive tax hikes to cover the combined tax loses?
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Speyside2 wrote:
So giving Disney a massive tax break in Florida and loosing massive tax revenues from Disney in Florida is a great idea? I wonder how many Flordinians will agree with you if the get massive tax hikes to cover the combined tax loses?


You are fear-mongering Spey.
You love the political regime so much that you are more concerned with them losing their blessed revenue than you care about the yoots being groomed by professional sexual perversionists.
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#270 Posted:
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So here is an original thought for you. All any parent needs to do is not take their children to Disney. You're welcome for being able to read a better solution.
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so pushing a theory of cartoon characters "grooming" children to be some kind of odd sexual beings isn't fear mongering...got it.
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
That awkward moment when you leave a store without buying anything and all you can think is "act natural, you're innocent".

Happens all the time. Hate when the buzzer goes off even when I have the receipt in hand and they tell me to just walk through. LOL.
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Frank you are going to get a diatribe of no that is nonsensical. Probably a few meaningless quotes from his favored 5. He is not capable of distinguishing nuance. In Texas, young school children were taken on a field trip to a drag queen bar to experience " culture ". They did this without parental consent of informing parents well beforehand. That was evil, and evil always should be exposed. He sees no difference between the 2.
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frankj1 wrote:
so pushing a theory of cartoon characters "grooming" children to be some kind of odd sexual beings isn't fear mongering...got it.


Theory? Where have you been Frank? Disney is WOKE. it's no longer the place for wholesome family friendly entertainment for the children. It's the place for LGBQ+ grooming.

How about this latest tidbit?


LOL: Woke Disney (Groomers) Faces Financial, Growth Catastrophe Over Conservative Country Backlash to Gay Buzz Lightyear Movie

Posted on June 14, 2022 by Constitutional Nobody

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How should conservative states respond to woke companies of the Disney (Groomers) sort that constantly push leftist, SJW-like ideas on the citizens of those states, particularly young children, by turning their entertainment into woke propaganda?

By acting as conservative nations do and just rejecting Disney (Groomers) in any way that’s possible. Such is what 14 conservative nations have done upon the news that Disney (Groomers) has inserted a gay kiss scene into its new Buzz Lightyear movie, with Reuters reporting that the nations banned the film over the inclusion of a gay couple in it.

According to that outlet, the woke company hasn’t gotten permission to stream or show the movie in 14 nations, including the world’s largest market: China. Reporting on that, Reuters claims:

Walt Disney (Groomers) Co (DIS.N) has been unable to obtain permission to show its new Pixar movie “Lightyear” in 14 Middle Eastern and Asian countries, a source said on Monday, and the animated film appeared unlikely to open in China, the world’s largest movie market.

More...

https://ussanews.com/2022/06/14/lol-woke-disney-faces-financial-growth-catastrophe-over-conservative-country-backlash-to-gay-buzz-lightyear-movie/



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RayR wrote:
Theory? Where have you been Frank? Disney is WOKE. it's no longer the place for wholesome family friendly entertainment for the children. It's the place for LGBQ+ grooming.

How about this latest tidbit?


LOL: Woke Disney (Groomers) Faces Financial, Growth Catastrophe Over Conservative Country Backlash to Gay Buzz Lightyear Movie

Posted on June 14, 2022 by Constitutional Nobody



I bought DIS, country is trending woke.
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The jobs will still move to Florida. They are just delayed.

Disney will pull the gay kiss scene for the Chinese market and try to do it very quietly.

Disney’s CEO will be removed or resign within two years.
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RayR wrote:
You are fear-mongering Spey.
You love the political regime so much that you are more concerned with them losing their blessed revenue than you care about the yoots being groomed by professional sexual perversionists.

The greatest generator of economic activity in Central Florida's is directly tied to theme park tourism, even without government collecting ANY taxes from Disney (or any other theme park). This is indisputably crucial to our local economy.
People simply don't take expensive vacations like theme parks when they cannot afford to (as if most who come here really can!).

With both a U.S. and world-wide economic slow-down, higher interest rates and inflation, keeping Disney (and other parks here) running like a well-oiled machine is necessary. If there is a recession (?), we will be much worse off here than much of the rest of the country/and other parts of the world. That was painfully obvious during the 2008 recession and will be again be, if it is not already happening.

Things have ben working fine for a long, long time.
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HockeyDad wrote:
The jobs will still move to Florida. They are just delayed.....

Don't be certain. One of my neighbors is a Disney illustrator for 25+ years and she was recently told they may be moving their jobs elsewhere shortly.
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I’m positioned to snatch up some cheap Florida real estate after it crashes.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I’m positioned to snatch up some cheap Florida real estate after it crashes.


Oddly enough, the listings I am being sent have been dropping in price. Small increments, but I'll take it.
RayR Online
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Like the old saying goes Robert..." don't put all your eggs in one basket". It reminds me of the heavy industry economy that once centered around the steel mills around here, they thought it would never end until it did.
It's not my problem that your high-priced amusement park is a centerpiece of your economy and suffering from the economic slowdown and further still in the coming recession. Bidenomics for the WIN! Record high energy costs, high transportation cost, and high inflation in general, isn't going to convince many families to push the button on scheduling that already pricey vacation at Disneyworld.

There's also the saying, "Go Woke, Go Broke!
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RayR wrote:
Like the old saying goes Robert..." don't put all your eggs in one basket". It reminds me of the heavy industry economy that once centered around the steel mills around here, they thought it would never end until it did.
It's not my problem that your high-priced amusement park is a centerpiece of your economy and suffering from the economic slowdown and further still in the coming recession. Bidenomics for the WIN! Record high energy costs, high transportation cost, and high inflation in general, isn't going to convince many families to push the button on scheduling that already pricey vacation at Disneyworld.

There's also the saying, "Go Woke, Go Broke!

I don't know of any major metropolitan area that is/was not overly dependent on some industry/industries. Industries need to exist near sources of labor and major cities have that. It's certainly not the golden standard of diversification here, but is still better and very different from the steel industry. Steel is a fungible good. Traveling to Orlando's theme parks and beaches is so much less so.
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I find it ironic that the colors red, white, and blue stand for freedom until they are flashing behind you.
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RayR wrote:
Theory? Where have you been Frank? Disney is WOKE. it's no longer the place for wholesome family friendly entertainment for the children. It's the place for LGBQ+ grooming.

How about this latest tidbit?


LOL: Woke Disney (Groomers) Faces Financial, Growth Catastrophe Over Conservative Country Backlash to Gay Buzz Lightyear Movie

Posted on June 14, 2022 by Constitutional Nobody





you have no clue that you just proved my point of the insanity you profess...and you speak of others believing crazy theories?
Wow.
It's not your politics, there's something else about you that sets off alarms.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I wonder if Disney will come out as pro-abortion.

Only if Minnie needs one.
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The symptoms of paranoia can include:
Being defensive, hostile, and aggressive.
Being easily offended.
Believing you are always right and having trouble relaxing or letting your guard down.
Not being able to compromise, forgive, or accept criticism.
Not being able to trust or confide in other people.

Paranoia is terrible mental illness Frank. Have sympathy for Ray as well as alarms.

It would not be fair to point out Ray's mental illness without mentioning mine. I suffer from clinical depression, clinical anxiety, clinical OCD, and clinical OCPD.
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I'm thinking of opening a clinic...
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rfenst wrote:
Only if Minnie needs one.

because she's f--king Goofy?


sorry, but I couldn't let it sit there any longer.
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You would make a lot of money just off me. Mensch psychology, what a concept!!! Your mother would be proud, she always thought you should be a doctor.
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frankj1 wrote:
you have no clue that you just proved my point of the insanity you profess...and you speak of others believing crazy theories?
Wow.
It's not your politics, there's something else about you that sets off alarms.


So yer saying you approve of ghey Buzz Lightyear?...
and Disney's WOKE leftward movement is just a conspiracy theory?
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rfenst wrote:
Only if Minnie needs one.


Minnie should have kept her thighs shut.
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frankj1 wrote:
because she's f--king Goofy?


sorry, but I couldn't let it sit there any longer.


From the sounds of this thread she was checking out Pluto while she was trying to get to Uranus.

Same logic.

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I just found out I'm colorblind. The diagnosis came completely out of the purple.
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RayR wrote:
So yer saying you approve of ghey Buzz Lightyear?...
and Disney's WOKE leftward movement is just a conspiracy theory?

no.
I said there's something else about you that sets off alarms.
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frankj1 wrote:
no.
I said there's something else about you that sets off alarms.


bwahaha!
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