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Roe versus Wade Overturned!
Dg west deptford Offline
#201 Posted:
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frankj1 wrote:
I have similar struggles.


You're arms are too short to box with God like the rest of us

Let's stick in the conscience of this struggle
And quit ye like men

Brewha Offline
#202 Posted:
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Again, I would like to thank God for making me an Agnostic….
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Wasn't the old testament retribution superseded by the blood sacrifice of the Son of God?




And on a blasphemous note, would said sacrifice not imply God's approval of abortion up to the 135th trimester?
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#204 Posted:
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There is mercy with God that he may be feared

Not so we can blaspheme, as you know,

But so we can glorify Him & enjoy Him forever.

The woman caught in adultery to be stoned was brought before the man without failure to test him.
Would he be too far right or too far left?

He said "let the man without failure cast the 1st"

He then knelt & drew in the sand while everyone split

"Woman" He said, "where are your accusers?"

They split, she said

"Neither do I condemn you," He said.
"Go & sin no more"

The only question is what was He drawing in the sand that made us one by one drop our stones & split.

Personally, I identify with the adulterer more than the accusers
But I've been both

Thanks for listening. I'll stop now
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ZRX1200 wrote:
And just like his underwear, he doesn’t wash you.

you are in the midst of one of your funniest streaks
bgz Offline
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Dg west deptford wrote:
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Don't you?

Lev.20:4 ‘If the people of the land, however, should ever disregard that man when he gives any of his offspring to Molech, so as not to put him to death, .....


You and Ray talk about this being "Molech" as if it's sentient and real...

Are you two polytheists?
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#207 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
You and Ray talk about this being "Molech" as if it's sentient and real...

Are you two polytheists?

Gary North...
Sunoverbeach Offline
#208 Posted:
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If God is your co-pilot - swap seats.
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Why didn't the green pepper shoot his bow..??

Cause he didn't habanero... Mellow
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#210 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Why didn't the green pepper shoot his bow..??

Cause he didn't habanero... Mellow

William!!!
Nice!
Sunoverbeach Offline
#211 Posted:
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That's a gud'un, X!
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#212 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
That's a gud'un, X!

MCFA!
borndead1 Offline
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I see that nobody has given me a REAL answer to my question. So I'll bump it up a notch.

Laws have to be ENFORCED.

What would enforcement of a total abortion ban (abortion treated as murder or manslaughter) look like?

What level of enforcement would *YOU* be comfortable with?

It's easy to support laws/policies that don't affect you. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of this. But the bottom line is this: every law is essentially enforced at gunpoint and/or threat of imprisonment. Read that last sentence again and really think about it.

So I'll get REALLY specific here: would you be OK with YOUR daughter...sister...cousin...aunt...niece...friend...wife being hauled away in handcuffs, at gunpoint, and sent to prison for the rest of her life for getting an abortion? Because that's what abortion treated as murder would be. Let's focus on that for a minute. If your wife...daughter...sister got pregnant, decided that she couldn't or didn't want to have another child, had an abortion, or couldn't *legally prove* that she had a miscarriage, and went to prison for 10 years...20 years...LIFE...would you visit her in prison? What would you say to her?

What COULD you say to her?
Brewha Offline
#214 Posted:
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borndead1 wrote:
I see that nobody has given me a REAL answer to my question. So I'll bump it up a notch.

Laws have to be ENFORCED.

What would enforcement of a total abortion ban (abortion treated as murder or manslaughter) look like?

What level of enforcement would *YOU* be comfortable with?

It's easy to support laws/policies that don't affect you. Both liberals and conservatives are guilty of this. But the bottom line is this: every law is essentially enforced at gunpoint and/or threat of imprisonment. Read that last sentence again and really think about it.

So I'll get REALLY specific here: would you be OK with YOUR daughter...sister...cousin...aunt...niece...friend...wife being hauled away in handcuffs, at gunpoint, and sent to prison for the rest of her life for getting an abortion? Because that's what abortion treated as murder would be. Let's focus on that for a minute. If your wife...daughter...sister got pregnant, decided that she couldn't or didn't want to have another child, had an abortion, or couldn't *legally prove* that she had a miscarriage, and went to prison for 10 years...20 years...LIFE...would you visit her in prison? What would you say to her?

What COULD you say to her?

Psssst……the abortion is murder idea is just a cover story to sell it to the dim bulbs. This is about keeping women in their place. The conservatives honestly thinks women should not have rights to their bodies - they are kinda like….community property.
HockeyDad Offline
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Brewha wrote:
Psssst……the abortion is murder idea is just a cover story to sell it to the dim bulbs. This is about keeping women in their place. The conservatives honestly thinks women should not have rights to their bodies - they are kinda like….community property.


That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.

And all those unfertilzed eggs - Murder!!

Miscarriages - Manslaughter!!

A human life 9 months to be created - in the first 3, it is just wishful thinking.

Besides, this is really about keeping women in their place. After conception, their wombs become community property - who are they to claim rights over it?
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Brewha wrote:
And all those unfertilzed eggs - Murder!!

Miscarriages - Manslaughter!!

A human life 9 months to be created - in the first 3, it is just wishful thinking.

Besides, this is really about keeping women in their place. After conception, their wombs become community property - who are they to claim rights over it?



That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.
bgz Offline
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Brewha wrote:
And all those unfertilzed eggs - Murder!!

Miscarriages - Manslaughter!!

A human life 9 months to be created - in the first 3, it is just wishful thinking.

Besides, this is really about keeping women in their place. After conception, their wombs become community property - who are they to claim rights over it?


Male sperm donations

All eggs must be fertilized

No egg left behind

rfenst Offline
#219 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.

So what?
Brewha Offline
#220 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.

Murder he wrote….

Misogyny it is.
HockeyDad Offline
#221 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
So what?


Does it not sound so fun?
Sunoverbeach Offline
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We can't help everyone, but everyone can help someone.
HockeyDad Offline
#223 Posted:
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Spam can’t help anyone.
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Convenient and Shelf-Stable
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Some of the most popular ways to enjoy Spam include adding it to sliders, sandwiches, pasta dishes and rice.
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HockeyDad wrote:
That’s all a fine and good story but to have a successful abortion a human life form has to die. If it is in the first 3 months you can kill it with chemicals. Once it’s further along than that it has to be killed and birthed or killed and dismantled.


So...no more stem cell research? No in vitro fertilization? No more Plan B (because it might expel a fertilized egg)? Those are human life forms, ya know?

This is the kind of stuff that would have to be decided by judges/courts/legislators if 'life begins at conception' is adopted as law. Is that really what 'small government' conservatives want?

I also noticed that you didn't respond to my big philosophical post.

What would you say to your daughter if she were serving 20+ years in prison for getting an abortion? "Sorry, honey, but you knew it was illegal."
Palama Online
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
Convenient and Shelf-Stable
One of the biggest benefits of Spam is that it’s convenient and easy to prepare when running short on time or with limited ingredients available.

It’s also shelf-stable, which makes it simpler to stock up on compared to perishable protein foods like chicken or beef.

Because Spam is already cooked, it can be eaten straight from the can and requires minimal preparation prior to eating.

It’s also highly versatile and can be added to a wide variety of recipes.

Some of the most popular ways to enjoy Spam include adding it to sliders, sandwiches, pasta dishes and rice.


Spam Musubi!

https://www.instructables.com/How-To-Make-Spam-Musubi/

My wife has a similar recipe but she uses the small, one Musubi press. She made 10 of them last night and I took 8 of them for our fishing trip.
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Mini Lew, when you write about blasphemy, the irony is so thick and dense you cannot cut it with a knife.
RayR Online
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Here we go! The Bobbsey Twins, servants of the Moloch State are all in a tizzy by intelligent free-thinking. Gary North How Dare You! Frank and Spey curse your grave! The messianic Moloch State demands total sacrifice! Resistance is futile!
Frank is even driven down to the level of insinuating I'm a NAZI! Go fiqure that one?
Other than that...A whole lot of nothing from both of them!
bgz Offline
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Isn't Gary North that guy who wants to kill gay people and blasphemers and such?

Sounds anti-liberty to me... and he has Ray's respect.

Another hypocritical display by RayRay the non-defender of gays...

This man does not believe in liberty folks... if he does, it's only for himself and those that think EXACTLY like him.
RayR Online
#230 Posted:
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bgz wrote:
Isn't Gary North that guy who wants to kill gay people and blasphemers and such?

Sounds anti-liberty to me... and he has Ray's respect.

Another hypocritical display by RayRay the non-defender of gays...

This man does not believe in liberty folks... if he does, it's only for himself and those that think EXACTLY like him.


How Dare You! All you servants of the Moloch State spread lies!

bgz Offline
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RayR wrote:
How Dare You! All you servants of the Moloch State spread lies!



That's not this guy?

https://medium.com/the-radical-center/the-man-who-wants-to-kill-gays-397d4acfa30e

Top result with a shortish link: Gary North death penalty

Pretty sure that's this guy.

So he doesn't want to kill gays then?

I mean, that's all I really know about the guy... is he wants to kill gays.

Kinda like all I know Sinbad for is that stupid Genie movie... except this guy really wants to kill gays.
bgz Offline
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Oh yeah, I've determined Ray is a polytheist... a barbarian...

Ray is a Pagan!!!
RayR Online
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bgz wrote:
That's not this guy?

https://medium.com/the-radical-center/the-man-who-wants-to-kill-gays-397d4acfa30e

Top result with a shortish link: Gary North death penalty

Pretty sure that's this guy.

So he doesn't want to kill gays then?

I mean, that's all I really know about the guy... is he wants to kill gays.

Kinda like all I know Sinbad for is that stupid Genie movie... except this guy really wants to kill gays.


I see you source your information for the same lyin' commie sources as Frank.
James Peron is a LGBQ++XYZ/2 propagandist that hates Christians. Jews too since he mentioned Rothbard.
So listen to him twist your little monkey brain and tell you what to think about a decent Christian man like Gary North, but don't you dare read https://www.garynorth.com/
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I was speak of you mini Lew, you and you alone.
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RayR wrote:
Here we go! The Bobbsey Twins, servants of the Moloch State are all in a tizzy by intelligent free-thinking. Gary North How Dare You! Frank and Spey curse your grave! The messianic Moloch State demands total sacrifice! Resistance is futile!
Frank is even driven down to the level of insinuating I'm a NAZI! Go fiqure that one?

While Frank provided no proof in his post, I'd bet real money he's right.
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rfenst wrote:
While Frank provided no proof in his post, I'd bet real money he's right.


Ah, so Frank's hearsay is good enough for you...eh counselor? Eh?


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More so than your "factual" rants, ya cockalorum
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RayR wrote:
I see you source your information for the same lyin' commie sources as Frank.
James Peron is a LGBQ++XYZ/2 propagandist that hates Christians. Jews too since he mentioned Rothbard.
So listen to him twist your little money brain and tell you what to think about a decent Christian man like Gary North, but don't you dare read https://www.garynorth.com/


I didn't actually read the article, I just posted one of the top results for the search term.

I guess that can be blamed on evil Google for spreading lies and misinformation though...

Doing the bidding of mainstream media...

All these people out to get poor Gary!!!

Anyway, the whole page looked pretty much like that... so... I was curious, so I looked at the site.

All his stuff on alphabetical issues are paywalled (I'm guessing you're a subscriber).

He obviously hates people too, so I can see why you like him.

Why do you like to discriminate so much and claim you are for liberty?

Those two concepts are incompatible.
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Ah! So your little monkey brain convinced you that you should actually read the commie drivel you Googled.
That's not like you Ben. Are you sober?

Oh and SOB, you also...your desire to believe outweighing the facts and evidence is not a good look. Frying pan

I forgot...somebody tell Spey to take his MEDS.
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RayR wrote:
Ah, so Frank's hearsay is good enough for you...eh counselor? Eh?

You don't know what hearsay means if you think it's someone's opinion of you based on their personal experience.
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Your "facts" amount to, "I found an obscure article on the internet, so you all have to believe it's true."

Go away, boy. Ya bother me.
RayR Online
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Facts and evidence Comrades! I know you fools are just trying to run a Kangaroo Court here.
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And you're revelling in playing in the monkey house, flinging your chit with wild abandon.
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
And you're revelling in playing in the monkey house, flinging your chit with wild abandon.


I heard that Mencken said, “Democracy is the art of running the circus from the monkey cage.”
It's true also of CBID forums. 🐵🐒🙈🍌❤️🙉🐵🦍🦧
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I heard that above all else, Ray simply loves the sound of his own rambling
RayR Online
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I heard that above all else, Ray simply loves the sound of his own rambling


Com'On comrade! I know deep down inside...you really love it! Herfing
Sunoverbeach Offline
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I heard you like it deep inside, but that's just not my bag.

Not that there's anything wrong with that of course
RayR Online
#248 Posted:
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Sunoverbeach wrote:
I heard you like it deep inside, but that's just not my bag.

Not that there's anything wrong with that of course


I wasn't alluding to anything like "Way, way down inside" as in that Led Zep song. You potty brain! 🚽
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Happy favorite thread Sunday brothers

Cheers!
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borndead1 wrote:
So...no more stem cell research? No in vitro fertilization? No more Plan B (because it might expel a fertilized egg)? Those are human life forms, ya know?

This is the kind of stuff that would have to be decided by judges/courts/legislators if 'life begins at conception' is adopted as law. Is that really what 'small government' conservatives want?

I also noticed that you didn't respond to my big philosophical post.

What would you say to your daughter if she were serving 20+ years in prison for getting an abortion? "Sorry, honey, but you knew it was illegal."



Sorry….these guys gheyed the thread and your post was buried. LGBZTQ stuff isn’t even affected by abortion.

Stem cell research: did something get killed to facilitate it? That is already heavily restricted.

In vitro fertilization: what got killed to facilitate it?

Plan B: we’ll that’s up to each state now. Chemical abortion in the first trimester. Not everyone will be OK with it. Many will and can justify that as an allowable kill. Half of all abortions are in the first trimester. (That also means half are not and that’s when babies have to be physically dismantled and people get more squeamish to talk about what an abortion actually is.)

What would I say to my daughter is she was serving 20 years in prison for an abortion? First I would say “what the hell were you doing getting knocked up in Kansas? You couldn’t make it home for 9 months and duck into a Costco or Carls JR?” We’re in California where after 10 abortions you get a free Nissan Leaf electric car.

It would kinda be like if she was up for 20 years in prison for vehicular homicide. I would say “those laws aren’t for people like us! Ha! I’ll make some calls.” Is that what you were fishing for?!





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