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Being Green (For All the FOGS)
dpnewell Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2009
Posts: 7,491
Found this posted on my wife's Facebook, and thought it would be fun to share.

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.
The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days."
The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."
She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.
Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were truely recycled.
But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.
Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.
But too bad we didn't do the green thing back then.
We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.
But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.
Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.
But that young lady is right; we didn't have the green thing back in our day.
Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana. In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.
But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.
We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.
But we didn't have the green thing back then.
Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.
But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?
Please forward this on to another selfish old person who needs a lesson in conservation from a smartass young person.
z6joker9 Offline
#2 Posted:
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Cute but misleading. Total per capita energy use (combination of all sources) spiked in the 70s and has been declining steadily over the last 15 years.

Source: http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/index.cfm

The fewer electronics and engines that were around did have were far, far less efficient than modern ones. Those glass bottles you recycled required more energy and created more waste than creating and just tossing the plastic and aluminum ones we have today. Public transportation usage is the highest it has been in 50 years. You don't think that plastic bags are reused around the house or recycled? But don't let that get in the way of continuing to spread this bon mot.
DrafterX Offline
#3 Posted:
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That damned old lady... spewing off all that garbage without checking snopes first.... Mad
dpnewell Offline
#4 Posted:
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Sheesh, Joker, I thought it was cute and would be fun to share. This isn't the political forum.
DaQueenBeez Offline
#5 Posted:
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Posts: 20,837
z6joker9 wrote:
Cute but misleading. Total per capita energy use (combination of all sources) spiked in the 70s and has been declining steadily over the last 15 years.

Source: http://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/index.cfm

The fewer electronics and engines that were around did have were far, far less efficient than modern ones. Those glass bottles you recycled required more energy and created more waste than creating and just tossing the plastic and aluminum ones we have today. Public transportation usage is the highest it has been in 50 years. You don't think that plastic bags are reused around the house or recycled? But don't let that get in the way of continuing to spread this bon mot.




I think a generation that had a TV screen the size of a handkerchief, a push mower, milk in bottles (re-used, no less) and no disposable diapers is somewhat BEFORE the 70s. Dunno how old the lady from the story is supposed to have been, but *I* was a kid in the 70s and all of those things are before my time.
havanaone Offline
#6 Posted:
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Can surely say, I remember every thing this person has to say about the green thing. The world has changed so much and the newer generation just does not get it. So your hype of this and that is where, one would tell you to go talk to your parents and they will fill in the voids in your brain.
vrodrider Offline
#7 Posted:
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Well Joker most of what he talks about happened in the early to late 50's when the US population was 150,697,361
in 1950 and in 1960 it was 179,323,175 and in 2010 it was 308,745,538 and you are talking about 1970 when all the new snot nosed kids wanted disposable and not returnable. Dang kids never got a chance to go jugging to get smoke money. Hell I used to keep gas in my car jugging. Now I don't even think in my wildest thought you have any idea what Jugging is but i bet the FOG's do LMAO
havanaone Offline
#8 Posted:
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vrodrider wrote:
Well Joker most of what he talks about happened in the early to late 50's when the US population was 150,697,361
in 1950 and in 1960 it was 179,323,175 and in 2010 it was 308,745,538 and you are talking about 1970 when all the new snot nosed kids wanted disposable and not returnable. Dang kids never got a chance to go jugging to get smoke money. Hell I used to keep gas in my car jugging. Now I don't even think in my wildest thought you have any idea what Jugging is but i bet the FOG's do LMAO

Bet ya, he never got his azz spanked...LMAO
z6joker9 Offline
#9 Posted:
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Sorry, seen this so many times that I've got the retort ready to go. Didn't mean to rain on the parade. I'll give you this gif as reconciliation: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdoaxa4snS1qdlh1io1_400.gif


and no clue what jugging was.
vrodrider Offline
#10 Posted:
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Glass milk jugs was worth a quarter, glass pop bottles was 5 cents and gas was 29.9 cents a gallon and a lot of milk jugs and pop bottles came up missing in the neighborhood LOL
dubleuhb Offline
#11 Posted:
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Sure things used more power back then, but technology was what it was. I think the point is this whole ''green'' concept is a farce these days and there is nothing new about recycling other than the products being used.
DrafterX Offline
#12 Posted:
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Think
Mr. Jones Offline
#13 Posted:
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OHHH MYYYYY G.O.D.

INSTEAD OF "THE C-BID" FORUM???

THIS SHOULD BE CALLED.....

"THE DISSECTING AND YOUR ALL WRONG.. DEVIL'S
ADVOCATE DOUCHE BAG RESPONSE PLACE"

Geeeezzzz, can't a guy get a break without analytically and statistically getting shutdown before "leaving the gate"???

I LIKED THE O.P.
THANK YOU

Well done...

Mr. Jones (61)
Mr. Jones Offline
#14 Posted:
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^^^#8 havanaone

I went into 9th grade in 1970...
I had MS. HOUCK for homeroom that year.
She was an UGLY OLD UN-MARRIED SCHOOL MARM AND MEAN AS HELL ....MATH TEACHER...

We all get assigned seats on the first day and then she opens her desk drawers and pulls out at least 5-6 items and places them on the top of her desk....
SHE STARTED EXPLAINING WHAT EACH ONE WAS AND THE OFFENSES THAT WOULD CAUSE HER TO PHYSICALLY BEAT YOU WITH EACH ITEM...

1. an oak paddle
2. An thicker ASH paddle w/ about 20+ holes
3. An 18" ruler with an embedded metal strip that was sharp
4. A 36" pointing stick w/ a black rubber tip
5. An actual very large SCHLAILEY FROM IRELAND that looked like an American Indian battle club with a carved ball on the end
6. The 8ft oak rod with metal attachment that unlocked the old window lock about 12' above us so we didn't fry in September , may, June When it was hot as he'll...
NO A/C IN 1970...

I SAW EVERY WEAPON USED ON SOMEBODY THAT YEAR...MULTIPLE TIMES...HUNDREDS...
some days...several were used ...that was just before
1st period...
All day long...the intercom would spout names to " report to the office of the principal" THEN SEVERAL VERY LOUD SMACKS BY AN OAK PADDLE AND lots of CRYING...

I never got hit, not even once...I was too smart for that bullish*t to ever happen to me...I WAS A SNEAKY PRICK AND NEVER GOT CAUGHT...E.V.E.R.

BACK TO THE O.P.....

TIMES WERE WAY DIFFERENT!!!
GEN-XERS AND MILLENIALS have N.O. idea what life was like in the 1950's, 60's, or 70's...it was a freakin' free fer-all
With NO RULES...
DrafterX Offline
#15 Posted:
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Hell I got hit with the paddle so many times in highschool they stopped giving me the option... Said it wasn't doing any good... They were right.. when I had to start going to detention I quit getting in trouble.. Mellow
Gene363 Offline
#16 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Hell I got hit with the paddle so many times in highschool they stopped giving me the option... Said it wasn't doing any good... They were right.. when I had to start going to detention I quit getting in trouble.. Mellow


So it was then you met the dominatrix?
Cathcam13 Offline
#17 Posted:
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I always felt that the paddle was never effective, it was never fun, but it was one way to deal discipline. Another way that was far more effective was the one my grandfather used, if I got out of line, I got to go fix fence lines for the rest of the week. Far more effective.
DrafterX Offline
#18 Posted:
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Desperado... Mellow
delta1 Offline
#19 Posted:
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Is the green thing still around?


that was something you got when you put your business in the wrong place and had to go to the doctor for a shot in the azz...
Gene363 Offline
#20 Posted:
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In grade school I was on a first name basis with the vice principals, thugs hired to keep kids in line. In fifth grade I had a red headed teacher determined to get control. She paddled, stuffed paper towels in our mouth's, made us eat soap and even tried sitting us in her lap to embarrass us into behaving, all for naught. By seventh grade I got tired of visiting the VP so I jammed the locks on our classroom such that they had to drill out the locks to open the doors. I never told anyone so when the VP, red faced with bulging veins in his head and neck walked around the classroom demanding us to admit who jammed the locks. I kept my mouth closed in spite of the pressure. In high school it was easier to avoid contact with authority.
RMAN4443 Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 09-29-2016
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Breakin' rocks in the hot sun
I fought the law and the law won
I needed money 'cause I had none
I fought the law and the law won ......Whistle
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#22 Posted:
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So Drafter, what possessed you to resurrect this "blast from the past"?

What happened to Joker when I was away? Did he miss me so much that he quit the board, ha, ha? Only a handful of posts in '16, nothing in '17, and then 2 posts on 1/30/18.

David (dpnewell)
DrafterX Offline
#23 Posted:
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I had it saved in the Topics thing and found it today... It's not that I remembered it.. Mellow
Ewok126 Offline
#24 Posted:
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Man this brought back memories. I was born in 1970, my parents still did these things. I even remember when it came to things like say getting an Ice Cream cone or candy my father would tell us sure as long as we could pay for it. So what we did as kids was ride around the hood on our bikes, collect soda bottles that people threw out while driving, then ride our bikes to the store and trade them in for the candy or ice cream. Best days of my life back then. I remember one summer that was how I got the money to buy the Evil Knievel motorcycle toy that you would put the bike in the lil crank thing and reve it up and the little motorcycle would take off like a bat out of hell. So not only did we recycle, as kids we learned how to work and earn our money as well and it was fun to boot.

Good GOD! I just found out what that toy is going for now. Yep I am officially now feeling OLD.

https://goo.gl/ZfjR58
Speyside Offline
#25 Posted:
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Man, this brings back some memories.
RMAN4443 Offline
#26 Posted:
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Ewok126 wrote:
Man this brought back memories. I was born in 1970, my parents still did these things. I even remember when it came to things like say getting an Ice Cream cone or candy my father would tell us sure as long as we could pay for it. So what we did as kids was ride around the hood on our bikes, collect soda bottles that people threw out while driving, then ride our bikes to the store and trade them in for the candy or ice cream. Best days of my life back then. I remember one summer that was how I got the money to buy the Evil Knievel motorcycle toy that you would put the bike in the lil crank thing and reve it up and the little motorcycle would take off like a bat out of hell. So not only did we recycle, as kids we learned how to work and earn our money as well and it was fun to boot.

Good GOD! I just found out what that toy is going for now. Yep I am officially now feeling OLD.

https://goo.gl/ZfjR58

Yikes!!! I had one of those.....me and my friends covered it in model glue and set it on fire, then revved it up hit the ramp, did a backflip and smashed it into a wall......it started a small fire in the woods and we all got grounded for two weeks.......GOOD TIMES!!!!!Applause
Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#27 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:

TIMES WERE WAY DIFFERENT!!!
GEN-XERS AND MILLENIALS have N.O. idea what life was like in the 1950's, 60's, or 70's...it was a freakin' free fer-all
With NO RULES...


Mr. Jones, I was a child of the 60's, and grew up in NJ. I remember covering our school books with brown paper bags. We rode our bikes all over the neighborhood w/o a helmet, and yet somehow survived. We walked to and from school everyday, and never thought of asking for a ride, nor feared being kidnapped. We would run around the neighborhood playing "war" or "cowboys and Indians" with toy guns (without the orange muzzle inserts) and never feared of being shot by a cop. We would run around the neighborhood with our BB guns without SWAT showing up. We would tell our parents that we where going out to "play" and most of the time they didn't know exactly where we where (shocking). When I turned 18, my first P/U truck had a gun rack in the rear window with rifles, and no one cared. My Dad, who went to school in the 30's and 40's would carry his loaded shotgun to and from school and hunt. He and his classmates would store their guns in the school office during school hours, yet there was never a school shooting. And yes, if we wanted something, we would do chores for our allowance, cut the neighbors grass, or get a paper route. Our parents didn't spoil us with the lastest I-phone, tablet or video game system. I didn't even get a car when I turned 17. I had to go out and work for one, and pay for the gas and insurance out of my own pocket. Today's kids could never survive in the world we grew up in.

David (dpnewell)
bgz Offline
#28 Posted:
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Damn sounds like you had a really unsafe living environment.

Someone should have called CPS on you guys...

Mr. Jones Offline
#29 Posted:
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#27 david^^^

A "DITTO" to all of that post.....
We'd get up at 6:30-7:00 in the summer, be gone all morning, come back for lunch, then out again till the bells rang around 5:30-6:00....each bell had a different ring , then the kids names would be yelled by moms all across the neighborhood...
We'd build forts, go visit real hobo camps along the Conestoga river, go fishing, exploring, battle other forts, build stingray bike jumps, dirt bomb battles, play baseball or kickball..sometimes basketball, ride bikes to the pool, go to the local variety store to buy candy...all great memories...
WE HUNTED EVERYDAY AFTER H.S. AND HAD GUNS, BOOTS AND HUNTING JACKETS IN OUR CAR TRUNKS.
I WAS on the H.S. rifle team too, it was under the auditorium stage.

The GenXers and MILLENIALS CANNOT FATHOM SUCH FREENESS AND ABANDON...

Off-POINT...but GOOD!!!

WHEN I WAS BEING USED AS A FBI-SSG TRAINING CLASS GANGSTALKING "MARK" FROM 3-2013 TO
10-2013 ....I NOTICED THESE NEW "RECRUITS" WERE TRANSFIXED ON THEIR CELL PHONES...Waiting for instructions and they had ear buds were they would get real FEILD time instruction from...when they would be listening with intent or reading their phones I would "double back" on the little PRICKS and get directly behind them...I'd watch them look frantically in front of them...then I'd cough or get "in their space" and freak them out...I DID THIS RIGHT ON THE PENN STATE CAMPUS TO A YOUNG "PAKI" ( STANI ) RECRUIT OUTSIDE OF THE VISUAL ART CENTER AND MUSEUM...HE PEED HIS PANTS..I S.A.W. THE LIQUID CIRCLE ON HIS PANTS...
During A CONCERT AT TELLUS 360 IN LANCASTER ONE NIGHT IN 2013? OR 14? I WAS SWARMED BY 25-30 AGENTS OF ALL AGES...THE QUEBALL AGENT "MISTA CLEAN" aka
"Old raisin NADS" and his wife and another couple of married agents were there watching the recruits "in training"..
My real friends were mocking me out , calling me "full of sh*t" that nobody was following me...all the while 25-30 AGENTS WERE WITHIN 50 FEET OF US AND UNDETECTABLE TO THEM, but I'd witnessed these exact PRICKS "day in day out" for over 8-16 months and knew their faces distinctly...( they N.E.V.E.R. break cover, especially when your with witnesses , I.e. your friends)
THIS 25? YR OLD LITTLE BLOND SSG TRAINEE C*NT AND her boyfriend?/FBI TRAINEE PARTNER get about 5-8 feet directly behind me ...using various "directed conversation" jabs ALL NIGHT LONG..
"LOOK AT HIM, HE'S GUILTY AS HELL", "WHERE'S HE GETTING ALL HIS MONEY", "HE SURE HAS GREAT MUSICAL TASTE", THEN THE LITTLE BEOTCH says:
"LOOK AT HIM...H.E. W.A.N.T.S. US TO BRING HIM IN FOR QUESTIONING...HELL WILL FREEZE OVER BEFORE THAT HAPPENS..."
Soooo.
After that, I go get a beer in the back of the room, "they" keep watching the concert...NOT ME...BUT SEASONED AGENT OLD RAISIN NADS EYES ARE ON ME THE ENTIRE "BEER GETTING TIME"...

I SNEAK UP RIGHT BEHIND THAT LITTLE C*NT AND GET WITHIN 6" OF THE BACK OF HER NECK AND STAY THERE FOR A GOOD 90 SECONDS...THEN BREATH DOWN HER NECK..THE BEOTCH AND BOYFRIEND FLINCH AND JUMP when they finally realize I COULDA' DONE ANYTHING I WANTED TO THEM WITHOUT THEIR KNOWING IT...SCARED THE LIVING SH*T OUTTA BOTH OF THEM...SHE TURNED WHITE AND GOT ALL FLUSTERED...
MISTA CLEAN WAS BESIDE HIMSELF, he saw the whole thing...after the two trainees left, they walked up the side walk by the yuge pane glass windows of the venue...she looked directly at me and I blew her a kiss..

BWUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Look around MILLENIALS , not at your cell phones....
tailgater Offline
#30 Posted:
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Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
... My Dad, who went to school in the 30's and 40's would carry his loaded shotgun to and from school and hunt. He and his classmates would store their guns in the school office during school hours, yet there was never a school shooting. ...

)


Your guns were obviously inferior to today's versions.
You know, the ones that cause the shootings.



Mrs. dpnewell Offline
#31 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Your guns were obviously inferior to today's versions.
You know, the ones that cause the shootings.





Yes, I know TG. Amazing, isn't it?

http://www.cigarbid.com/...NT-P-U-N-K-#post4325042

Reference posts #21 & #23.

David (dpnewell)
DrafterX Offline
#32 Posted:
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Posts: 98,548
fog
DrMaddVibe Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,412
Mrs. dpnewell wrote:
Yes, I know TG. Amazing, isn't it?

http://www.cigarbid.com/...NT-P-U-N-K-#post4325042

Reference posts #21 & #23.

David (dpnewell)


I stand by my posts on that thread as well today.
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