aberdeen, don't put too much stock in my opinion on cigars. It's just as of late I have been finding alot of cigars (Dos Rios, Partages Series "S", and others just are not living up to there promise and reviews. I am beginning to think that for my money I will stick with the old, well known Punch, Hoyo de M, Mac, Upmann, and standard Partagas. I must admit the Bahia line is very good, but over priced. Sorry, I did'nt mean to rain on your parade.