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I Hope Neil Young Will Remember...
1. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 2:25PM EST
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'It's Him Or Me': Neil Young Throws Tantrum Over Joe Rogan, Demands Spotify Remove His Songs



Canadian-American 70s performer Neil Percival Young has taken a stand against free speech - demanding Spotify pull his entire music catalog from their platform unless they silence podcaster Joe Rogan for spreading "fake information" about vaccines.

In an email to Warner Records, Young said Spotify "has a responsibility to mitigate the spread of misinformation on its platform," adding "I want you to let Spotify know immediately TODAY that I want all my music off their platform."

"They can have Rogan or Young. Not both," the raging liberal wrote.

zerohedge@zerohedge

who


Financial Times@FinancialTimes

Neil Young has threatened to remove his music from Spotify because he believes the streaming platform enables podcaster Joe Rogan to spread ‘fake information’ about vaccines.

‘They can have Rogan or Young. Not both,’ the musician wrote https://on.ft.com/32wPpH7


Young’s letter was a response to a December podcast in which Rogan interviewed Robert Malone, a controversial virologist who researched messenger RNA vaccines and is now sceptical of them. On the podcast, Malone told Rogan that US hospitals are financially incentivised to falsely report deaths as being caused by coronavirus. Rogan has also on his podcast encouraged “healthy” young people not to get a Covid-19 vaccine. -FT

Rogan notably inked a deal with Spotify in May of 2020 worth more than $100 million. Four months later, Spotify employees threatened to strike unless the company agreed to remove past Rogan podcast episodes with 'controversial guests,' and give employees direct editorial oversight over the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. This did not happen.

That would include the ability to directly edit or remove sections of upcoming interviews, or block the uploading of episodes deemed problematic.

The employees also demanded the ability to add trigger warnings, corrections, and references to fact-checked articles on topics discussed by Rogan in the course of his multi-hour discussions. -DigitalMusicNews

Hilariously, Spotify never brought it up with Rogan.

The Daily Show@TheDailyShow

Neil Young is gonna regret this when his monthly Spotify checks for $1.37 stop rolling in


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/its-him-or-me-neil-young-throws-tantrum-over-joe-rogan-demands-spotify-remove-his-songs


How much of that 100,000,000.00 that they gave Joe do you think he'll use as Kleenex over Neil's comments and will he miss the dollar?

whip
2. Author: HockeyDadDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 2:27PM EST
I would choose nails on a chalkboard over Neil Young.
3. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 2:30PM EST
Poor Daryl Hannah
4. Author: PalamaDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 2:39PM EST
DrMaddVibe wrote:
Poor Daryl Hannah


Plastic surgery / Botox gone bad? Think
5. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 2:43PM EST
Naw...Drafter saw her boobs.
6. Author: MACSDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 2:49PM EST
HockeyDad wrote:
I would choose nails on a chalkboard over Neil Young.


Exactly.

F-ck Neil Young. His "music" blows fkn chunks, anyway...
7. Author: Speyside2Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 3:15PM EST
Censorship is out of control. Biden has an easy fix. Send the dissidents to Gitmo to dissappear or the North most section of Alaska to never to return. Very efficient.
8. Author: PalamaDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 4:41PM EST
I listen mostly to early Neil up until "Time Fades Away" but there are a few albums that I don't care for at all. "Live Rust" is a definite favorite and for some odd reason I don't mind his 3-chord playing and guitar solos that sound the same over and over.

As far as what he said, frank, I don't give a rat's azz about his views, they're totally irrelevant to me (...as are most musicians, actors and athletes...).
9. Author: SunoverbeachDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 5:31PM EST
I hate double standards. Burn a body at a crematorium and you're being respectful to a friend. Do it at home and you're destroying evidence.
10. Author: ZRX1200Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 6:44PM EST
I have extreme mixed feelings about Neil Young.

JR not some much he’s a cool cat.
11. Author: JadeRoseDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 6:56PM EST
I'm a NY fan. I don't care one way or another about Joe Rogan. I don't give a rats azz about either of their opinions about anything. I don't use Spotify. I like pie!

What I'm saying is I don't give $hit about any of this.
12. Author: ZRX1200Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 6:59PM EST
Man I could go for some pie about now Mellow
13. Author: PalamaDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 7:03PM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
Man I could go for some pie about now Mellow


+1
14. Author: dkeageDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 7:47PM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
Man I could go for some pie about now Mellow



I had apple pie for breakfast...Anxious
15. Author: frankj1Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 7:48PM EST
dkeage wrote:
I had apple pie for breakfast...Anxious

100 proof?
16. Author: Mr. JonesDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 9:24PM EST
Man-0-DAYYYYY

THIS CIGARBID FORUM IS F.U.L.L. OF

NEIL YOUNG HATERS....

I LIKE NEIL YOUNGS MUSIC...
SCREW ALL YOU 3 CHORD haters...
17. Author: tailgaterDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 9:30PM EST
Young had a feud with Skynryd.

Skynyrd's plane went down.

Joe Rogan, watch your back.


18. Author: HockeyDadDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 9:41PM EST
Mr. Jones wrote:
Man-0-DAYYYYY

THIS CIGARBID FORUM IS F.U.L.L. OF

NEIL YOUNG HATERS....

I LIKE NEIL YOUNGS MUSIC...
SCREW ALL YOU 3 CHORD haters...


You like Neil Young because he sounds like a dumpster slamming repeatedly!

19. Author: Mr. JonesDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 9:45PM EST
Neil young should stay out of politics...

But he suffers (LIKE ALL OVER PAID AND OVER PROTECTED
MUSICIANS WHO HAVE RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES THAT VISUAL ARTISTS CAN ONLY DREAM OF....)
FROM MUSICIANS TRYING TO CONTROL THEIR ART AFTER IT WAS SOLD AND USED...

VISUAL ARTISTS SELL THEIR ART ONLY ONCE...
AND EVEN THEN THE GALLERY TAKES 50% OF THE $$$
SALE AMOUNT...VISUAL ARTISTS HAVE NO UNION OR LAWYERS HANGING ON LIKE LAMPREYS...

BUT MUSICIANS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CODDLED AND CONJOLED BY LAWYERS AND RECORD COMPANIES AND GET PAID EVERYTIME THEIR ART IS PLAYED....
WHICH IS TOTAL B.U.N.K. IN MY BOOK

I SAY F.U.C.K. ALL MUSICIANS, THEY MAKE WAY TO MUCH MONEY FOR SONGS THAT TAKE 1 HOUR TO WRITE AND
8 HOURS TO RECORD....

IT WOULD TAKE ME OVER 60-100 TO MAKE A PIECE OF MY ARTWORK...I NEVER MADE MORE THAN $750.00 SELLING A SINGLE PIECE...THEN THE GALLERY TOOK $375.00...

DO THE MATH...

I MADE $3.75 AN HOUR ( only once and never another dime...ever) and never got residuals, playtime $$$, number of plays $$$ , kickback money from radio stations, And the half a dozen more ways they rape the system with their rights and whatever $$$ they get daily, monthly and yearly for sitting on their asses , drinking booze, smoking pot and whining about people not paying to use their music...or whining that somebody the disagree with should not be allot to play their music....

Shut the f**k up you overpriviledged crybaby's....
20. Author: PalamaDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 9:45PM EST
tailgater wrote:
Young had a feud with Skynryd.

Skynyrd's plane went down.

Joe Rogan, watch your back.





Maybe not:

https://groovyhistory.com/neil-young-lynyrd-skynyrd-feud-sweet-home-alabama
21. Author: WhistlebritchesDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:02PM EST
**** NY and the horse he rode in on..............no talent POS
22. Author: BuckyB93Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:13PM EST
Where does a waitress with only one leg work?

IHOP.

On a related note, my sister-in-law did some volunteer work at a local animal shelter. A kitten was dropped of with a front leg nearly lopped off from a rat trap. Once it was well enough, she took it home and named it Eileen (I lean). Cool cat, prolly doesn't even know that one of it's legs doesn't work.
23. Author: bgzDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:16PM EST
Who is Neil Young?
24. Author: frankj1Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:34PM EST
Palama wrote:
Maybe not:

https://groovyhistory.com/neil-young-lynyrd-skynyrd-feud-sweet-home-alabama

will look at the link later but I know the story.
But it's not a choice in any event.
I'm a yuuuuge Neil fan, especially with Crazy Horse.
25. Author: bgzDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:37PM EST
I have a spotify account for the specific purpose of listening to Rogan.

It's literally the only thing I ever use it for.
26. Author: ZRX1200Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:46PM EST
He’s entitled to his political opinions, I wouldn’t want to live in a country where he wasn’t……my problem is him playing one song 5 GODDAMN TIMES in a row at a concert. I will never willingly listen to Rocking in the Free World again. But he went out of his way before the concert to keep everyone happy by walking out to a side stage during technical difficulties with his acoustic and take requests. There’s some class in the kook.

I don’t think he eats Dave’s Killer Bread.
27. Author: frankj1Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:52PM EST
from Patterson Hood (Drive By Truckers) a real Alabama boy
https://bittersoutherner.com/from-the-southern-perspective/ronnie-and-neil-and-jimmy-johnson-patterson-hood#:~:text=Young%20and%20Van%20Zant%20became,duality%20of%20The%20Southern%20Thing.



The album that Lynyrd Skynyrd recorded at my dad’s studio got pitched to all of the labels, but no one bit. Then, Jimmy Johnson and Ronnie Van Zant had a falling out over a misunderstanding. At that point in his life, Van Zant tended to fall out with many. But a year later, they were “discovered” by Al Kooper, who got them signed to MCA. Within a year, they were on their way to becoming major stars.

In the meantime, Neil Young, now ensconced as Rock and Roll Royalty in Southern California, was outraged by some of the footage he saw on the news of civil-rights abuses toward African Americans in the Deep South, and he wrote two landmark songs about it: “Southern Man” and “Alabama.” Both songs have a lot to say about my troubled and beloved home region’s dark side, but Ronnie Van Zant felt there should be an answer song, because he met and befriended a lot of “good people” during his time there. He wrote the lyrics to “Sweet Home Alabama” as a good-natured, loving bull****-call to one of his favorite artists. The idea of the “answer song” was common in the earlier days of rock and roll. The R&B charts had tons of them, and they were also fairly common in the world of country music.

The days of answers songs had already waned by the time Skynyrd recorded theirs. Nonetheless, the airwaves were soon flooded with these lines.

I hope Neil Young will remember
A Southern man don’t need him around, anyhow.

For the fourth and final verse of “Sweet Home Alabama,” Ronnie Van Zant held out an olive branch to his old mentor, Jimmy Johnson, and the band that he shared with my dad.

In Muscle Shoals, they’ve got the Swampers
They been known to pick a song or two
Lord, they get me off so much
They pick me up when I’m feeling blue, now how ’bout you?

I still have a vivid memory of riding in a 1972 Oldsmobile Delta 88 with my grandmother behind the wheel, listening to WQLT FM-107 and hearing that song. It was so exciting to hear my hometown and my dad’s band being called out in a hit song on the radio, even though it had already happened the year before on the Staple Singers’ hit, “I’ll Take You There,” when Mavis called out my dad, “Little David,” during the breakdown.

* * *

Legend has it, one day Neil Young was driving down the L.A. freeway in one of his fine vintage cars. It would have been summer, and I bet the windows were down. He had the radio cranked up when he heard an amazing guitar riff and a Southern voice call out, “Turn it up!”

So Neil did just that.

Neil Young claimed he already was loving the song before he heard his own name called out in the second verse. Then, he loved it even more. He also wrote his own answer song, “Walk On.”

I heard some people been talking me down
Bring up my name and pass it around

I’m sure Ronnie and the boys loved that song. There are iconic photos of Ronnie Van Zant singing at England’s Knebworth Festival in front of nearly 100,000 people, wearing his Neil Young “Tonight’s the Night” T-shirt. Young and Van Zant became friends, and Young was an honorary pallbearer at Van Zant’s funeral.

Such is the duality of The Southern Thing.
28. Author: frankj1Date: Tue, 1/25/2022, 10:56PM EST
The Duality of The South comes up in some DBT songs...
Love them or hate them, by all means thank them for kicking out Jason Isbell!
29. Author: PalamaDate: Tue, 1/25/2022, 11:53PM EST
Did someone mention Muscle Shoals?

https://youtu.be/hKmGUIM1uAI

30. Author: rfenstDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:40AM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
He’s entitled to his political opinions, I wouldn’t want to live in a country where he wasn’t…

If he owns the music, he has the right to determined who plays it. If not, he should STFU.
31. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 11:02AM EST
rfenst wrote:
If he owns the music, he has the right to determined who plays it. If not, he should STFU.



https://pitchfork.com/news/neil-young-sells-50-stake-of-songwriting-catalog-to-hipgnosis/

whip
32. Author: RayRDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 2:20PM EST

Neil Young is an Idiot

https://youtu.be/pIAfNEcr6wo

LOL LOL LOL LOL
33. Author: tonygrazDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 3:32PM EST
Mr. Jones wrote:
Man-0-DAYYYYY

THIS CIGARBID FORUM IS F.U.L.L. OF

NEIL YOUNG HATERS....

I LIKE NEIL YOUNGS MUSIC...
SCREW ALL YOU 3 CHORD haters...


+1

I never cared for Neil until a few years ago, but I keep finding great songs I had never heard before.
34. Author: SunoverbeachDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 4:55PM EST
What does a spy wear on his feet?
Sneakers
35. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 5:29PM EST
Boo Hoo Hoo...


Spotify to Take Down Neil Young’s Music After His Joe Rogan Ultimatum



Spotify Technology SA is removing Neil Young’s music, as the folk-rock star isn’t wavering in his objections to Joe Rogan’s podcast.

The “Heart of Gold” and “Harvest Moon” singer earlier this week penned an open letter to his manager and label asking them to remove his music from the service, saying it is spreading fake information about Covid-19 vaccines through Mr. Rogan’s show. “They can have Rogan or Young. Not both,” he wrote.

“We want all the world’s music and audio content to be available to Spotify users. With that comes great responsibility in balancing both safety for listeners and freedom for creators,” a Spotify spokesman said. The company has detailed content policies in place and has removed over 20,000 Covid-related podcast episodes since the start of the pandemic, he added.

“We regret Neil’s decision to remove his music from Spotify, but hope to welcome him back soon,” he said.

Spotify struck a deal with Mr. Rogan in 2020 worth more than $100 million, according to people familiar with the matter, bringing his popular and lucrative show exclusively to its service.

While the letter has since been removed from Mr. Young’s website, he has been in discussions with his label, Warner Music WMG -0.20% Group Corp.’s Warner Records, and Spotify since then, and continued to hold his ground, according to people familiar with the matter. The formal request to remove the music was made Wednesday and could take several hours to take effect across Spotify’s service across the world.

Before the removal, Mr. Young had 2.4 million followers and over six million monthly listeners on Spotify.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/neil-youngs-music-is-being-taken-down-by-spotify-after-ultimatum-over-joe-rogan-11643230104
36. Author: frankj1Date: Wed, 1/26/2022, 8:58PM EST
I think it's important for everyone to recognize, no matter their politics, the important historic and creative role the arts have played in mirroring, supporting, criticizing, informing etc. the real (and imagined) society and world around all of us,

It's what art is, in many ways. And it's important.

As for Mister Young, he is a great example of a particular generation of artists who were instrumental in the rise of social consciousness...be it civil rights, Viet Nam, Watergate, whatever Revolution lit a fire under our young people of the time...most of you know of those times...Hey... Four Dead In Ohio!

No one has to agree with nor even listen to/look at any artist from any artistic genre, but to disparage them is to deprive our uniquely inclusive and nurturing society of one of its special, defining characteristics.

This Land Is Your Land, This Land Is My Land, and on and on...
37. Author: BuckyB93Date: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:13PM EST
Would you defend in the same way with the current trend of the cancel culture, the tearing down sculptures and monuments, etc.?
38. Author: bgzDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:21PM EST
I like the idea of destroying Rushmore (just the sculpture part)... but I'm a bit biased.

Ok, rant over.
39. Author: MACSDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:30PM EST
^I like the idea of taxing Indians (feather not dot) just like every other fkn citizen of this country. No casinos, no land. Figure it out like the rest of us.

But I'm a bit biased.

I think they're lucky England came and not Spain or Portugal... look at South America. Mayans... gone. Inca... gone. Nobody left to complain and whine.

Ok, rant over. :-)
40. Author: frankj1Date: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:48PM EST
BuckyB93 wrote:
Would you defend in the same way with the current trend of the cancel culture, the tearing down sculptures and monuments, etc.?

I detest cancel culture.
I also detest reverence for monuments built to honor killers and racists but am against destroying the works of the artists...preserve them in museums with the truth of the subjects' historical "contribution" while realizing the talent of the creator. Their works will always speak to the future about the past.

But artists have always been social commentators. To shut them up is to stifle the impetus for their art.

And not all are liberals. Ted Nugent is beloved here and overrated musically due specifically to his right wing views.
Yet to this day I love some of the early works of his Amboy Dukes (Journey to the Center of Your Mind...I Feel Free (yeah, not Cream)...)
Love the Smithereens, though at least one member ran for office as a conservative IIRC.

GOP Sen. Fred Thompson, loved his character on Law and Order. Reagan...I heard he became POTUS.

Ya gotta separate. Or at least I hafta. Hate to miss a great performance cuz of a difference in voting. That's just stupid and self limiting.
41. Author: tailgaterDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:52PM EST
Ted Nugent over rated musically?

You've never listened to Stanglehold.


If he never wrote anything else, that alone should get him into the RnR HOF.



42. Author: frankj1Date: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:57PM EST
tailgater wrote:
Ted Nugent over rated musically?

You've never listened to Stanglehold.


If he never wrote anything else, that alone should get him into the RnR HOF.




guilty
Bet you never listened to Amboy Dukes either.
You might not have been born yet!
I was in Jr High
43. Author: frankj1Date: Wed, 1/26/2022, 9:58PM EST
tailgater wrote:
Ted Nugent over rated musically?

You've never listened to Stanglehold.


If he never wrote anything else, that alone should get him into the RnR HOF.




Dammit! I missed the Curt Schilling opening.
HA!
44. Author: tailgaterDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 10:00PM EST
This Spotify issue is a snapshot of America 2022.

We have a private media source.
In this instance, they don't have any clear political leanings.

We have Two popular public personas that are unrelated on the platform, with well known and opposing political leanings.

The conservative probably didn't care for the liberal rants, but chose to carry on with life.

The liberal didn't like the conservative rants, so he proposed an ultimatum to the media source.


Don't be a liberal.
And by liberal, I mean a whining deek.


I used to play Neil Young records in the early summer.
I found it kept the crows off the corn.





45. Author: tailgaterDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 10:01PM EST
frankj1 wrote:
guilty
Bet you never listened to Amboy Dukes either.
You might not have been born yet!
I was in Jr High


Journey to the center of your mind.
Dude.
46. Author: MACSDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 10:10PM EST
Tail... Joe Rogan has liberals and conservatives on his podcast. I don't think he's ever "chose sides" per se.

I think he may have even started a bit leftist... and had conservatives on his show that opened his eyes. I'd have to go back and revisit all the shows to be sure, but that's what I recall.
47. Author: SunoverbeachDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 10:12PM EST
tailgater wrote:
Journey to the center of your mind.
Dude.

Got that chit on vinyl downstairs, ya bunch a young whippersnappers
48. Author: tailgaterDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 10:18PM EST
MACS wrote:
Tail... Joe Rogan has liberals and conservatives on his podcast. I don't think he's ever "chose sides" per se.

I think he may have even started a bit leftist... and had conservatives on his show that opened his eyes. I'd have to go back and revisit all the shows to be sure, but that's what I recall.


Could be.
I like the Joe Rogan persona, but can't say I've ever listened to any podcast. From anyone.

49. Author: tailgaterDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 10:18PM EST
Sunoverbeach wrote:
Got that chit on vinyl downstairs, ya bunch a young whippersnappers


If you have a hankering for some groovy music, spin that disk man.
Don't be so square.

50. Author: MACSDate: Wed, 1/26/2022, 10:23PM EST
Come along if you can...
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