DrMaddVibe
2 years ago
I wish there was happier news.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-recovers-three-deceased-hostages-including-22-year-old-shani-louk [/i][/color][/size]

Hamas is slow walking the bodies so the leadership can dress like women and GTFO the region.

Sadly, I don't believe there are a lot of hostages left alive.

I pray I'm wrong.
frankj1
2 years ago

I wish there was happier news.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/idf-recovers-three-deceased-hostages-including-22-year-old-shani-louk [/i][/color][/size]

Hamas is slow walking the bodies so the leadership can dress like women and GTFO the region.

Sadly, I don't believe there are a lot of hostages left alive.

I pray I'm wrong.

DrMaddVibe wrote:


keep praying, brother.
keep praying.
rfenst
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2 years ago

Pretty sure Israel has a Mossad or IDF team or two who are at least as good as any SEAL team. I’d prefer they send their on boots in instead of us sending ours.

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America belongs making sure the best, most effective effort is made to extract any Americans kidnapped brought back from Israel into Hamas. Our forces should be in position for a "GO" call. They can coordinate with Israeli forces and intel as needed.
izonfire
2 years ago

America belongs making sure the best, most effective effort is made to extract any Americans kidnapped brought back from Israel into Hamas. Our forces should be in position for a "GO" call. They can coordinate with Israeli forces and intel as needed.

rfenst wrote:


That should have been done months ago.
Biden is a failure…
HockeyDad
2 years ago
It’s pretty clear that the US government does not care about any Americans being held hostage by Hamas.

On a brighter note, we just finished a floating pier so we can provide food and supplies to Hamas.
rfenst
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2 years ago

It’s pretty clear that the US government does not care about any Americans being held hostage by Hamas.

HockeyDad wrote:



I think it should depend how they got there.

If kidnapped from Israel and brought inside Hamas, we belong doing whatever we can.

If they were already there on their own, F 'em.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

That should have been done months ago.
Biden is a failure…

izonfire wrote:




In every way shape and form.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago

It’s pretty clear that the US government does not care about any Americans being held hostage by Hamas.

On a brighter note, we just finished a floating pier so we can provide food and supplies to Hamas.

HockeyDad wrote:



350 million dollars the US taxpayer funded for that.
MaduroJorge
2 years ago
related news
Irans' President Ebrahim "The Tehran Butcher" Raisi's
helicopter has crashed in the mountains and is feared dead.
Israel is denying any involvement. Hmmmm
Stogie1020
2 years ago

related news
Irans' President Ebrahim "The Tehran Butcher" Raisi's
helicopter has crashed in the mountains and is feared dead.
Israel is denying any involvement. Hmmmm

MaduroJorge wrote:


I heard it was "Jew fog"...
ZRX1200
2 years ago
I heard he yelled “KOBE” after takeoff….
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago
And like that we are "boots on the ground".


US Deploys Anti-Air Defense System On Gaza Aid Pier


Israeli media has reported that two American soldiers were injured Thursday in an accident which occurred while working on the Gaza humanitarian pier.

"Two U.S. soldiers sustained light injuries on Thursday during a work accident near the temporary floating pier in Gaza," i24 News said.

"The soldiers were promptly evacuated through Ashdod Port to an Israeli hospital for treatment," the report indicated. Israeli Army Radio described that the US soldiers were "injured in the floating dock area off Gaza."


The pier has seen the first aid trucks roll off in the last several days, but the whole operation has been off to a chaotic start. As of Tuesday there had not been any deliveries confirmed even though several trucks had departed with aid.

"Pentagon spokesman Maj. Gen. Pat Ryder said Tuesday that the issues have arisen once the aid was loaded onto nongovernmental organization trucks, departed the marshaling area and headed toward distribution warehouses in Gaza," Navy Times reported.

Some of the trucks had reportedly been taken over by desperate Palestinians before making it to their destination.

"Only five of the 16 aid trucks that left the secured area on Saturday arrived at the intended warehouse with their cargo intact, U.N. World Food Program spokesperson Steve Taravella told The Associated Press," Navy Times continued. "He said the other 11 trucks were waylaid by what became a crowd of people and arrived without their cargo."

Site security has remained a serious concern, despite Israel's military (IDF) being in charge of protecting the land portion of the pier, with US warships off the coast.
ArmyRecognition.com: U.S. Centurion C-RAM anti-aircraft artillery system is deployed near a US-built floating pier in the Gaza Strip.

Widely circulating social media images appear to confirm that the US military has deployed a C-RAM system (Counter-Rocket, Artillery, and Mortar) to safeguard the pier from aerial attacks such as drones or rockets.

Videos suggest it has already seen some action, possibly having taken out a drone flying nearby. Or else, it may have been a planned live-fire test to ensure its positioning and capabilities once installed. The C-RAM is relied upon to protect US forward operating bases elsewhere in the Middle East, as well as places like the US Embassy in Baghdad's Green Zone.

Below: Watch the newly installed C-RAM in action on Gaza's coast...

U.S. Army C-RAM in action on the Gaza floating pier. pic.twitter.com/G9smwQnRxR
— Clash Report (@clashreport) May 22, 2024


The Pentagon previously made it clear that if US troops come under fire, they are authorized to defend themselves and fire back. However, the IDF has also said it is providing security on land, and there are at least two Israeli bases established nearby.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-precision-us-anti-air-system-active-gaza-aid-pier 
rfenst
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2 years ago

And like that we are "boots on the ground".

DrMaddVibe wrote:


Just as we sat and discussed. I have no doubt we have boots on the ground in Ukraine, I am not surprised that the same is occurring in Hamas too. Does does this surprise you? Not me. We some times too interventionistic.
Stogie1020
2 years ago
Odd tha tthe American soldiers were taken to Israeli hospitals, no? Why not take them to one of the hospitals in Gaza?


I mean, you get a cool green headband when you check in...
rfenst
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2 years ago

Odd tha tthe American soldiers were taken to Israeli hospitals, no? Why not take them to one of the hospitals in Gaza?
I mean, you get a cool green headband when you check in...

Stogie1020 wrote:


Or, they likely could receive better trauma healthcare in Israel, than on a nearby U.S. ship or base.
jeebling
2 years ago
The UN should have security details guarding the convoys to the warehouses as well as guarding the warehouses. The UN has no real commitment to seeing the humanitarian aid reach the noncombatants, apparently. The UN doesn’t seem concerned that the HAMAS warlords are confiscating the goods for black market operations. Disgusting and defunct.
rfenst
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2 years ago
The U.S. Built a $320 Million Pier to Get Aid to Gazans. Little of It Has Reached Them.
Challenges to distributing food, water and other supplies continue; good alternatives to ground crossings prove elusive


WSJ

An ambitious U.S. effort to get aid into Gaza via a floating pier in the Mediterranean Sea has gotten off to a sluggish start, facing many of the same logistical challenges that have throttled broader attempts to ease the humanitarian crisis in the besieged Palestinian enclave.

The Pentagon spent $320 million and engaged 1,000 soldiers and sailors to open a major maritime corridor last week, delivering on President Biden’s promise in March that the U.S. military would install a temporary dock off the Gaza coast for cargo ships to unload food, water and other supplies. Fourteen ships from the U.S. and other countries are involved in a mission supported by humanitarian groups and several nations including Israel.

But in the first week of operations, only 820 tons of aid was delivered through the pier, of which around two-thirds reached distribution points within Gaza, the Pentagon said Thursday. That is roughly equivalent to 71 truckloads—far below the initial target of 90 truckloads a day, and about 15% of the estimated minimum daily need for a population of more than two million people facing crisis-level acute food insecurity.

The dock suffered another setback Saturday, when four boats attached to the pier detached during heavy seas, according to the U.S. military. Two were recovered and anchored nearby, and two floated northward toward the Israeli coastal city of Ashdod, the military said. The Israeli military is helping the U.S. recover the vessels, according to the U.S. military and an Israeli military official.

Around a dozen trucks from the pier never made it to their destinations inside Gaza, according to United Nations officials, who said that desperate Gazans commandeered the aid and that the trucks couldn’t use alternative routes due to Israeli restrictions—familiar problems plaguing aid operations in the strip.

“It is not flowing at the rate that any of us would be happy with, because we always want more,” national security adviser Jake Sullivan said Wednesday, adding that the U.S. was working to get “necessary security arrangements in place” to prevent looting.

One step to improving aid to Gaza came Friday when Biden secured a commitment from Egyptian President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi to resume shipments of U.N.-provided assistance for civilians in the southern part of the strip.

That aid is funneled through Egyptian territory to the Kerem Shalom crossing in Israel. Egypt had been holding back that assistance to try to pressure Israel to end its Rafah operation. Another border crossing at Rafah remains closed.

U.S. officials have said that the floating pier, soon after achieving its initial target, would expand capacity to enable 150 trucks a day to enter Gaza, assisting at least 500,000 people a month. Sullivan denied that the current lower levels indicated poor planning, blaming it instead on “a dynamic environment.”

The pier has begun operating at a critical time in the nearly eight-month war, with Israeli military advances in Rafah obstructing passage through the two southern border crossings, which were the conduits for most of the aid entering the Gaza Strip. The maritime corridor—and a continuing air-drop campaign—was meant to supplement ground deliveries, which are cheaper and more efficient. If the sea route is able to ramp up and the Rafah campaign drags on, though, the pier could potentially provide a vital lifeline to a population facing famine.

Humanitarian aid from donors arrives in Cyprus by air or sea. At Larnaca port, it is screened and packaged onto shipping pallets. The pallets are then loaded onto large military or commercial vessels which transport them some 200 miles across the Mediterranean Sea.

The large vessels arrive one at a time at a large floating platform constructed by the U.S. military that is anchored a few miles off the coast of Gaza. Here, the pallets are placed on trucks which drive onto smaller U.S. military vessels that can reach closer to the shore.

The smaller vessels shuttle between five and 15 trucks at a time to a smaller floating pier, which the U.S. military constructed and the Israeli military affixed to the Gaza coast. The trucks drive several hundred feet down a causeway onto the beach, where the pallets they are carrying are transferred onto a separate set of trucks for onward delivery.

In a marshaling zone on the beach that is protected by the Israeli military, aid workers coordinate the deployment of the second set of trucks to warehouses and distribution points across Gaza.

The maritime corridor is a cumbersome system with multiple potential bottlenecks. Food, medical supplies and other goods from around the world are sent by air or sea to the island nation of Cyprus, where the aid is screened and packaged onto shipping pallets in the small port of Larnaca. A large military or commercial ship then transports the pallets some 200 miles across the Mediterranean Sea to a floating platform built by the U.S.

There, the pallets are put into trucks, which are driven onto smaller military vessels that carry them about 6 miles to a floating U.S.-built causeway secured to the beach by Israeli army engineers. The trucks drive a few hundred feet down the causeway and onto the beach. In a zone protected by Israeli soldiers, aid workers transfer the pallets onto a separate fleet of trucks that are used by aid groups to complete the final leg to warehouses and distribution points inside Gaza.

Weather poses a particular threat. Choppy waters in the Mediterranean Sea could damage the pier and make it unsafe for people to be on it, military officials have warned. Storms delayed installation of the pier for several days and could interrupt operations again. The summer is expected to be mostly calm, but if the pier survives until September it will likely have to stop operations around then and be dismantled.

The pier is an “extraordinary measure” by the U.S. government, said Michelle Strucke, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for global partnerships including humanitarian affairs and disaster response. But she said it was rendered ineffective by distribution issues on the ground and Israel’s lack of an effective deconfliction system to protect aid operations from military activities. Israel says it doesn’t target aid workers, and after a deadly incident last month the defense minister said the military would coordinate directly with aid groups.

The complex pier operation also adds a dangerous new dimension to Washington’s involvement in the Gaza war, which includes supplying Israel with billions of dollars of weapons. While U.S. officials say American forces won’t step foot in Gaza, the pier pushes them to the edge of a chaotic battlefield. Engineering work on the pier came under mortar fire a month ago by “various terrorist organizations,” according to the Israeli military.

Hamas, a U.S.-designated terrorist group, has said it would treat U.S. forces at the pier as an occupying force. Yemen’s Houthi rebels, who are hostile to the U.S. and have launched drones and missiles at ships in the Red Sea in response to the war in Gaza, say air-defense systems make the pier a military base. Both are implicit threats to attack.

Three U.S. troops have been injured at sea already, said Vice Admiral Brad Cooper, deputy head of U.S. Central Command. Two of them have returned to duty, and one is being treated at an Israeli facility, he said without providing details. A U.S. defense official described the third troop as seriously wounded.

The danger to aid workers—more than 260 of whom have been killed over the course of the war, according to the U.N.—was highlighted last month when seven workers from World Central Kitchen, a charity founded by celebrity chef José Andrés, were killed in Israeli airstrikes on their convoy as it was delivering aid from a makeshift pier the group had built to receive sea deliveries.

The Israeli military controls the major ground arteries, and aid groups say their convoys often get held up at checkpoints for hours despite having pre-cleared the route. Israel says it is doing everything it can to ensure aid reaches Gaza.

The lack of a clear authority on the ground to secure aid distribution poses other problems. In a February incident, more than 100 people were killed when Israeli forces opened fire during a stampede of people rushing to get aid from a convoy. Aid groups assess that a surge of aid providing consistent supply for many days is the only way to reassure desperate people and convince them to allow trucks to transit safely.

Months of insufficient aid deliveries to Gaza, following Israel’s launch of the war in response to the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attack, have pushed parts of Gaza into famine. More aid began entering in April after the U.S. and other foreign governments pressured Israel to open new ground crossings and ease restrictions on existing ones.

But after Israel launched military operations in Rafah this month, the level of aid deliveries collapsed, and southern Gaza is now at increased risk of famine. The U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees suspended food distribution in Rafah on Wednesday because of inadequate supplies and insecurity.
jeebling
2 years ago
^This story turns my stomach. Frustrating. The UN can’t figure out how to organize a few troops and coordinate logistics of this? The ineptitude is staggering. I betcha I could make this work if I had resources of the UN. If you can read this sentence, I betcha you could make it work too.
DrMaddVibe
2 years ago
BAWHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAFUCKINGHAAHHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bidens-320m-gaza-pier-has-detached-drifted-israeli-beach [/i][/color][/size]


OMG, the level of retardation you have to be to still support any Biden is astounding!
MaduroJorge
2 years ago
just wandering

The lunatics at the ICC, South Africa, responsible for actual genocide of
White South African farmers, called to prosecute Netanyahu to cripple and deny Israel's
victory.

The UN Security Council headed by Third World Mozambique called to stand
for a moment of silence in honor of Raisi a/k/a The Butcher of Tehran to which the disgusting
US delegation, whose colleagues were murdered in Beirut and Benghazi by Iranian proxies, willingly stood surely instructed by The White House.

Question:
If this were a Japan/N. Korea conflict and Japan's counter attack would render N Korea into talcum powder.
would they be harassed like Israel?
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