Let's call it like it is, there is no Palestine, Gaza, or West Bank. It is all Iranestine. For Israel it is kill or be killed time. This powder keg nis about to blow. Let it blow and go scorched earth on any and all who support Iran/terrorism with the inclusion of Iran and all other states that are similar. This would be good for all Jews and Christians. If someone shoots a nuclear ICBM hit them with tactical nukes until they can't shoot anymore. We probably have the capability of dropping the ICBM darned near when its silo doors open. Israels next group of missiles can take out all nuclear capability in the middle east. We can take out every middle eastern submarine. Portable land launchers are probably always tracked. Islamic fundamentalists need to cease to exist.

Nice verbiage.

I say let Israel do what it needs to do to eliminate these terrorist organizations that continue to threaten them. I would shed no tears if Hammas and other terrorist governments/organizations were extinguished.

How Israel Pulled Off a High-Risk Hostage Rescue
Noon raid sparks joy in Israel, fury in Gaza; ‘We have the diamonds in our hands’


WSJ
TEL AVIV—The searing midday sun afforded the Israeli commandos the element of surprise.

The daylight raid was an unusual tactic, and risky. The fear, Israeli military officials said, was that Hamas guards would kill the four hostages as soon as they detected the specialist Israeli counterterrorism teams approaching. But if they could pull it off, it would give Israel a big psychological boost in a war that has been turning into a quagmire while steadily isolating the country from the rest of the world.

At 11:25 a.m. local time on Saturday, the Israeli military’s Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi was watching the situation from a command center of the Shin Bet security agency and gave the order to go.

The Israeli teams overwhelmed the captors hunkered down in two apartment blocks in Nuseirat, in the center of the Gaza Strip, Israel’s military later said. The teams came under fire as they left the buildings, leading to a street battle before the soldiers extracted the four hostages via helicopters on the beach.

One Israeli officer was fatally wounded. The Israeli military said about 100 Palestinians were killed or wounded, including Hamas militants and civilians caught in the crossfire.

Hamas, which seized over 240 hostages in the Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel that triggered the war, called Saturday’s Israeli operation “brutal and barbaric.” It said 210 Palestinians were killed and 400 wounded, without specifying the number that were combatants.

Saturday’s rescue was a rare moment of national joy in Israel in the midst of a deep national crisis. In Tel Aviv, beachgoers cheered when a lifeguard reported the rescue on the PA system. Some television anchors broke into tears as they announced the news.

For Palestinian civilians sheltering from the eight-month war in Gaza, it was another day of airstrikes, death and mourning. Residents in Nuseirat described it as one of the worst days of the war, saying they didn’t know what was happening as bombs rained down. Some also voiced anger at Hamas for holding hostages in residential buildings, endangering the whole area.

Before Saturday, Israeli military actions had saved only three hostages held in Gaza by Hamas or other militants. Often, Israeli forces have had intelligence on hostages’ whereabouts but the location made it too difficult to bring them out alive, according to military officials.

Acting when the captors least expected it—in broad daylight—provided an advantage that justified the risk, said the Israeli military’s chief spokesman, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari.

He described an elaborate operation that he compared with Israel’s most famous hostage rescue—the 1976 raid at the Entebbe airport in Uganda, when Israeli special forces saved dozens of hostages taken by Palestinian hijackers.

For months, a small team of U.S. military personnel has been helping the Israeli search for hostages, using drones. Before Saturday’s raid, 120 people taken on Oct. 7 remained captive in Gaza; many are believed to have died.

In May, Israel located the female hostage Noa Argamani in a low-rise apartment block in Nuseirat, central Gaza, and three male hostages in another building about 200 yards away: Almog Meir Jan, Andrei Kozlov and Shlomi Ziv.

The Gazan families residing in the apartments were present there, together with the Hamas captors and their prisoners, Hagari said.

Raiding only one building would alert captors at the other location, so the Israelis decided to raid both buildings simultaneously, he said.

The Israeli police’s counterterrorist unit, Yamam, trained for the raid on models of the two buildings, Hagari said. The unit reached central Gaza from Israel, he said, and denied rumors that it had arrived via the U.S.-built pier designed for aid delivery.

Hagari declined to say whether the officers were disguised as Palestinian civilians, a tactic that Israeli special forces have previously used.

Once the order to proceed was given, the Israeli air force struck a preplanned list of Hamas targets in Nuseirat, creating cover for the rescue raid. Ground forces from Israel’s paratroopers division stood ready to support the operation.

The Yamam commandos reached the apartment entrances undetected, the families of the hostages told Israeli TV later.

One Yamam team stormed the first-floor apartment where Argamani was held and took the captors by surprise, according to the military.

On the third floor of the other building, a gunfight with the guards broke out. The Yamam squad leader, Arnon Zamora, was hit and later died of his wounds.

But the hostages were alive. “We have the diamonds in our hands,” the commandos radioed to the command center.

Leaving the buildings, the teams came under fire from Hamas fighters armed with rocket-propelled grenades, Hagari said. He accused Hamas of deliberately firing at the Israelis from streets full of civilians.

Israeli airstrikes and ground forces hit the militants. The many dead likely included both fighters and bystanders.

Video footage shared by the military showed a CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopter loading soldiers and hostages before whisking them off the beach.[/h] Tears and relief awaited them in Israel. In Gaza, more anger and smoldering rubble.

Absolutely amazing work.

I know that it is crude, but Hamas already determined the relative value of Israelis to Hamasians: 1:1,112. That is how many prisoners Israel previously gave up to get one single soldier hostage back.

So, using this statistic, some could argue that saving four Israeli lives and only having to kill and injure like 100, per the article above, is a low casualty count.

The way I look at it, they got a good deal unless there were 4,108 Hamasian casualties from the rescue.

it's truly astounding to me the verbal gymnastics that the MSM is flinging out to decry the number of Palistinians killed/injured in the raid to recover the hostages...

You know how many would have been killed/injured if Hamas just returned the hostages? Zero.

[quote=Stogie1020]it's truly astounding to me the verbal gymnastics that the MSM is flinging out to decry the number of Palistinians killed/injured in the raid to recover the hostages...

You know how many would have been killed/injured if Hamas just returned the hostages? Zero. [/quote?

Here is my new nomenclature:

Gaza = Hamas = Iranestine
Gazan = Hamasian = Iranestinian
West Bank = Western Israel/Jerusalem

Feel free to add to the list...

Iranestine = Putin's proxy = Putinestine

Do the logic, not a word is breathed of this, yet I think it makes sense for a multitude of reasons.

Of course one could say Putinstein as well.

another version could be Islamestine fundamentalism.

Gaza = Islamestine fundamentalism

This one makes the most elemental of the above.

Gaza = Putinestine

This one makes the most war related sense.

Gantz quits council
He says Netanyahu mismanaged war on Hamas in Gaza


Associated Press
JERUSALEM — Benny Gantz, a centrist member of Israel’s three-man War Cabinet, announced his resignation Sunday, accusing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of mismanaging the war effort and putting his own “political survival” over the country’s security needs.

The move does not immediately pose a threat to Netanyahu, who still controls a majority coalition in parliament. But the Israeli leader becomes more heavily reliant on far-right allies who oppose the latest U.S.-backed cease-fire proposal and want to press ahead with the war.

“Unfortunately, Netanyahu is preventing us from achieving true victory, which is the justification for the painful and ongoing price,” Gantz said. He added that Netanyahu was “making empty promises,” and the country needs to take a different direction as he expects the fighting to continue for years to come.

The popular former military chief joined Netanyahu’s government shortly after the Hamas attack in a show of unity. His presence also boosted Israel’s credibility with its international partners. Gantz has good working relations with U.S. officials.

Gantz had previously said he would leave the government by June 8 if Netanyahu did not formulate a new plan for postwar Gaza.

He scrapped a planned news conference Saturday night after four Israeli hostages were dramatically rescued from Gaza earlier in the day in Israel’s largest such operation since the eight-month war began. At least 274 Palestinians, including children, were killed in the assault, Gaza health officials said.

Gantz called for Israel to hold elections in the fall, and he encouraged the third member of the War Cabinet, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, to “do the right thing” and resign from the government as well.

Gallant has previously said he would resign if Israel chose to reoccupy Gaza, and he encouraged the government to make plans for a Palestinian administration.

On Saturday, Netanyahu had urged Gantz not to leave the emergency wartime government.

“This is the time for unity, not for division,” he said, in a direct plea to Gantz.

Gantz’s decision to leave is largely “a symbolic move” due to his frustration with Netanyahu, said Gideon Rahat, chairman of the political science department at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

He noted it could further increase Netanyahu’s reliance on extremist, right-wing members of his government, led by National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich.

“I think the outside world, especially the United States, is not very happy about it, because they see Gantz and his party as the more responsible people within this government,” Rahat said.

On Sunday evening, Ben-Gvir demanded a spot in the War Cabinet, saying Gantz and the smaller Cabinet had bungled the war effort due to “dangerous” ideological decisions.

Hamas took some 250 hostages during the Oct. 7 attack that killed about 1,200 people. About half were released in a weeklong cease-fire in November. About 120 hostages remain, with 43 pronounced dead. At least 36,700 Palestinians have been killed in the fighting, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry, which does not distinguish between fighters and civilians.
At least 274 Palestinians, including dozens of children, were killed, and hundreds more were wounded, in the Israeli raid that rescued four hostages held by Hamas, Gaza’s Health Ministry said Sunday.

The Israeli military said its forces came under heavy fire and responded during the complex daytime operation in central Gaza.

The killing of so many Palestinians, in a raid that Israelis celebrated as a stunning success, showed the heavy cost of such operations on top of the already soaring toll of the 8-month-old war ignited by Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack.

The Israeli bombing was “hell,” witness Mohamed al-Habash told Associated Press. “We saw many fighter jets flying over the area. We saw people fleeing in the streets. Women and children were screaming and crying,” he said.

One Nuseirat resident who witnessed Saturday’s assault said: “They killed everything inside us.” The woman, identified only as Mounira in a video shared by the U.N. on Sunday, urged a cease-fire.

The operation in Nuseirat, a built-up refugee camp dating to the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, was the largest rescue since Oct. 7.
Saturday’s events also affected fragile attempts to deliver aid.

The World Food Program chief said they suspended distribution around a U.S.-built pier off Gaza because “two of our warehouses, warehouse complex, were rocketed yesterday.”

Also Sunday, the commander of the Israeli military’s Gaza division resigned over failures that led to the Oct. 7 attack.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken will return to the Middle East this week, seeking a breakthrough in cease-fire efforts.

U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan told CNN that mediators Egypt and Qatar had not received official word from Hamas on the proposed deal.

In a separate interview with CBS, Sullivan didn’t say whether Biden would meet Netanyahu when he comes to Washington next month to address Congress.

International pressure is mounting on Israel to limit civilian bloodshed in its war in Gaza. Palestinians also face widespread hunger because fighting and Israel has restricted the flow of aid.

Great. Now all conflict in the region is resolved down to a plate of french fries, cheese curds and gravy.

It must be a tough decision for some.

Support Israel or continue to support Biden.

One can't do both and expect a good outcome for Israel.

Not a problem for me, FJB.

I could go for some poutine right about now.

By the way, the New York Times reported that 3 million Palestinians were killed in the raid to free the hostages.

I heard that Genocide Joe has got to go.

I heard from a reliable source that they were released.

On what outlet?

Religious or not, all wars come down to land.