Poll Question: Have We Seen Peak Trump? If Not, When?
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

The March jobs report came out today and said we created 228K jobs

HockeyDad wrote:



Anyone think its going to be revised lower days, weeks or months from now like under the last administration?

Especially when he was only increasing the govt. sector jobs. Hello....DOGE![frypan] [frypan] [frypan]
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

I heard that too.. but I figured it would fall on deaf ears..😟

DrafterX wrote:



You have to take off Corky's sound reducing ear muffs.
drglnc
a year ago

The March jobs report came out today and said we created 228K jobs

HockeyDad wrote:

comparing theoretical job openings to actual people that lost a current paycheck

Brewha
a year ago
That’s what I love about the Trump supporters here.

If Trump pisses on us they will tell you it’s rain.

At least they are consistent.
8trackdisco
a year ago

TRUMP JOB PERFORMANCE

Average Approval

42.6%

Average Disapproval

55.4%

Net Score: -12.8 points [Average includes: NYT/Siena: 42 percent approve - 54 percent disapprove; NPR/PBS/Marist: 42 percent approve - 53 percent disapprove; NewsNation: 44 percent approve - 56 percent disapprove; Fox News: 44 percent approve - 55 percent disapprove; CNN/SSRS: 41 percent approve - 59 percent disapprove]

Change from last week: -2.4 points

Change from last month: -6.6 points

Source: Whole Hog Newsletter

rfenst
a year ago

The March jobs report came out today and said we created 228K jobs

HockeyDad wrote:


lAll of a sudden government measures and measuring is OK by you to use?
HockeyDad
a year ago

lAll of a sudden government measures and measuring is OK by you to use?

rfenst wrote:



Is that outrage? I simply stated what the March jobs report said. Since time has passed now you can go look at the April jobs report.

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frankj1
a year ago
are we still in the carry-over effect from Biden phase of the new administration?
HockeyDad
a year ago

are we still in the carry-over effect from Biden phase of the new administration?

frankj1 wrote:



For some things yes and for some things no.
frankj1
a year ago

For some things yes and for some things no.

HockeyDad wrote:


so, pretty much the same as all who came before...
HockeyDad
a year ago

so, pretty much the same as all who came before...

frankj1 wrote:



Some Presidents have more lasting effects than others. For example, we will be paying off Biden’s 8 trillion in new debt for many years. Abraham Lincoln took away the Democrats’ slaves and that stayed in place for a long time.
frankj1
a year ago

Some Presidents have more lasting effects than others. For example, we will be paying off Biden’s 8 trillion in new debt for many years. Abraham Lincoln took away the Democrats’ slaves and that stayed in place for a long time.

HockeyDad wrote:



And Trump's debt as well.

As for party distinctions, don't forget that much like today (with subsets in each party: Dems have mainstream libs and fringe Progressives...and the GOP is made up of mainstream cons and not-really-republican-anymore-Trumpers, which has an elusive plank...)so were parties in the first century or two of our nation's maturity.

Some were absorbed by other parties, some simply vanished through attrition, blah blah blah.

But the real point I'm making is that using a party name or title today does not have the same meaning as the one(s) you wish to denigrate today, specifically the Democrats of nearly 200 years ago who owned the vast majority of the human slave labor force in America, were what became a subset known commonly as "Southern Democrats". And Ironically, over the last 60 years they have left the Democrat party en masse and joined the GOP...every one of those states are solidly red since then, around the time of the Civil Rights stuff last century

Don't fret, things will change again. It has already begun as far right authoritarian rulers are enamored with the authoritarian
successes of Commie dictators. And Commie dictators are helping in anyway the can with the elections of right wing fascits everywhere.

The philosophies and bases of each leader matter not any more...it's the ease of accomplishing whatever they want without interference from nit picky courts, lawyers, free press et al that is the attraction.

There are almost no more boogey men Commies or Right wing Nazis/Fascists that aren't in the same fraternity these days despite polar opposite political/economic philosophies...it's the means not the end that matters.



RayR
a year ago
Frank, are you are still sticking to that LEFTY narrative that Fascism is a right-wing thing? 😳

Who Is "Fascist"?

By Dr. Thomas Sowell

https://www.creators.com/read/thomas-sowell/02/08/who-is-fascist 

frankj1
a year ago
now now Ray. It's a tough pill to swallow, but I know you can catch up to the rest of the world.
Ten million dead WWII Russians can tell you the facts..

But that discussion is over.

And you totally missed the point...again. Your favorite extremists love Putin et al now...it's the means not the end results in each country that matter for dictators of all stripes.
RobertHively
a year ago

For some things yes and for some things no.

HockeyDad wrote:




What about the "doom loop" you mentioned several times?

Basically that there's no way to come back from the 36, 37, 38 trillion dollar debt of The "UNITED STATES"

I think the MENG's budget spends more than Stranosa did in any one year. Right?

How are they not still doom loop'n?
frankj1
a year ago

What about the "doom loop" you mentioned several times?

Basically that there's no way to come back from the 36, 37, 38 trillion dollar debt of The "UNITED STATES"

I think the MENG's budget spends more than Stranosa did in any one year. Right?

How are they not still doom loop'n?

RobertHively wrote:


good luck trying to break through the "your party is a poopy head party" mind set.
It's all their fault.
None of it is ours.

It relates to what Brew and 8track have been trying to recover here.

You deserve credit for always trying to MCBFA, so thanks.
RayR
a year ago

now now Ray. It's a tough pill to swallow, but I know you can catch up to the rest of the world.
Ten million dead WWII Russians can tell you the facts..

But that discussion is over.

And you totally missed the point...again. Your favorite extremists love Putin et al now...it's the means not the end results in each country that matter for dictators of all stripes.

frankj1 wrote:



Ten million dead WWII Russians? What does that prove but 2 collectivist progressive dictator gangs like killing each other?

My favorite extremists? Who dat?
I suspect a gaslight coming.
frankj1
a year ago
not your politics that have taken the pleasure from these threads, Ray.
It's you.

Too boring, Too same old same old.

No back and forth possible.
You're a big part of what has been killing the forums, Ray, I blame myself for encouraging you to stick around years ago when it was fresh.
But the act has gone stale.

You can't hear when all you do is lecture.

Like everyone else ever born, you can't always be right. But when you believe you are, you no longer learn nor grow.

Reread some of the complaints about how the political threads are dying. If that was your mission, Brownie, Mission Accomplished.

Maybe stick with the gardening discussions? That's your strong suit.
HockeyDad
a year ago

What about the "doom loop" you mentioned several times?

Basically that there's no way to come back from the 36, 37, 38 trillion dollar debt of The "UNITED STATES"

I think the MENG's budget spends more than Stranosa did in any one year. Right?

How are they not still doom loop'n?

RobertHively wrote:



Still looks like a doom loop but Stanosa blew it up worse than Trump. Since lots of programs are on autopilot Trump 2.0 should top the Biden years for adding to the debt unless there are spending cuts. It kinda looks like we stopped caring in 2009.

Year Receipts Outlays
'24 5.04 6.88
'23 4.8 6.37
'22 4.9 6.27
'21 4.05 6.82
'20 3.42 6.55
'19 3.46 4.45
'18 3.33 4.11
'17 3.32 3.98
'16 3.27 3.85
'15 3.25 3.69
'14 3.02 3.51
'13 2.78 3.45
'12 2.45 3.54
'11 2.3 3.6
'10 2.16 3.46
'09 2.1 3.52
'08 2.52 2.98
'07 2.57 2.73
'06 2.41 2.66
'05 2.15 2.47
'04 1.88 2.29
'03 1.78 2.16
'02 1.85 2.01
'01 1.99 1.86
HockeyDad
a year ago

And Trump's debt as well.

As for party distinctions, don't forget that much like today (with subsets in each party: Dems have mainstream libs and fringe Progressives...and the GOP is made up of mainstream cons and not-really-republican-anymore-Trumpers, which has an elusive plank...)so were parties in the first century or two of our nation's maturity.

Some were absorbed by other parties, some simply vanished through attrition, blah blah blah.

But the real point I'm making is that using a party name or title today does not have the same meaning as the one(s) you wish to denigrate today, specifically the Democrats of nearly 200 years ago who owned the vast majority of the human slave labor force in America, were what became a subset known commonly as "Southern Democrats". And Ironically, over the last 60 years they have left the Democrat party en masse and joined the GOP...every one of those states are solidly red since then, around the time of the Civil Rights stuff last century

Don't fret, things will change again. It has already begun as far right authoritarian rulers are enamored with the authoritarian
successes of Commie dictators. And Commie dictators are helping in anyway the can with the elections of right wing fascits everywhere.

The philosophies and bases of each leader matter not any more...it's the ease of accomplishing whatever they want without interference from nit picky courts, lawyers, free press et al that is the attraction.

There are almost no more boogey men Commies or Right wing Nazis/Fascists that aren't in the same fraternity these days despite polar opposite political/economic philosophies...it's the means not the end that matters.



frankj1 wrote:



The southern Democrats left the party and yet now the Democratic Party works tireless to import a new slave class of Latin Americans. This new modern Democrat tells the blacks that they are inferior and can only get by with government help in a system that is systemically against them yet they were the ones that built the system and won’t change it. I guess that’s an upgrade? At least the signs at the plantation are in English and Spanish.

I dunno about this whole right wing commie fascist stuff. Kinda sounds like the Russian collision lie. Putin and Xi are hanging out right now in Moscow.

"Together, we defend the formation of a more just and democratic multipolar world order." - Putin
“Together with our Chinese friends we firmly stand guard over the historical truth, protect the memory of the war years and counter modern manifestations of neo-Nazism and militarism” ~ Putin

Sounds like Putin and Xi got your back!
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