Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
I am betting it never starts because there is no provable evidence. At best the evidence is circumstantial and very week. At worst it is a conspiracy to find a code that does not exist. Let's see how this plays out.
RayR
a year ago
What do ya mean there is "no provable evidence"?
You must be new here, we've known Joe and his crime family have been treasonous crooks for years.
jeebling
a year ago

I am betting it never starts because there is no provable evidence. At best the evidence is circumstantial and very week. At worst it is a conspiracy to find a code that does not exist. Let's see how this plays out.

Robert Sanders 1 wrote:



Are you speaking to the shell companies or is this a different story?
Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
Please tell me what page of the 291 page report the shell companies are listed on, as I must have missed that. Please do not provide a different source for that. If the shell companies actually exist they will be in the House of Representatives report.
RayR
a year ago
On page 1 of the report under key findings from the impeachment inquiry:
https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/2024.08.19-Report-of-the-Impeachment-Inquiry-of-Joseph-R.-Biden-Jr.-President-of-the-United-States.pdf 

From 2014 to the present, as part of a conspiracy to monetize Joe Biden’s office of public
trust to enrich the Biden family, Biden family members and their associates received over
$27 million from foreign individuals or entities. In order to obscure the source of these
funds, the Biden family and their associates set up shell companies to conceal these
payments from scrutiny. The Biden family used proceeds from these business activities to
provide hundreds of thousands of dollars to Joe Biden—including thousands of dollars
that are directly traceable to China. While Jim Biden claimed he gave this money to Joe
Biden to repay personal loans, Jim Biden did not provide any evidence to support this
claim. The Biden family’s receipt of millions of dollars required Joe Biden’s knowing
participation in this conspiracy, including while he served as Vice President.



Obviously, a complex web of shell companies and bank accounts exists for laundering the cash.
They know that just from the bank records that were obtained. Do you think they are going to list them for you ahead of an actual impeachment?

That big guy and his crime family are as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks.

jeebling
a year ago
Robert, I was referring to what Ray posted in #5. I have not read the 291 page report, I’ve only heard second hand summaries from YouTube talking heads.

EDIT: These are the facts that they have to impeach and convict Biden with. That question has been raised in other places. Now that Biden is out of the race I still expect justice to be served. I don’t support sending Joe Biden to jail but a suspended sentence would suffice for me personally if Biden is found guilty. Other people who may be convicted should get what’s coming to them. I think Joe is too old and not healthy and I don’t want an American President to die in jail.
rfenst
a year ago

EDIT: These are the facts that they have to impeach and convict Biden with. That question has been raised in other places. Now that Biden is out of the race I still expect justice to be served. I don’t support sending Joe Biden to jail but a suspended sentence would suffice for me personally if Biden is found guilty. Other people who may be convicted should get what’s coming to them. I think Joe is too old and not healthy and I don’t want an American President to die in jail.

jeebling wrote:


Agreed.
drglnc
a year ago
impeach away... if they have the evidence they should move forward. if found guilty then let the chips fall where they may.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

impeach away... if they have the evidence they should move forward. if found guilty then let the chips fall where they may.

drglnc wrote:





Even when found guilty...

"Prosecutors said it was possible that Mr. Biden would "present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory." During his interview with Hur, the special counsel wrote that the president was confused about the timeline of events and was unable to ascertain questions about his time as vice president."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-special-counsel-report-handling-classified-documents/ 


Please, tell me you see the difference.
ZRX1200
a year ago
Orange man bad, threat to democracy!
jeebling
a year ago

impeach away... if they have the evidence they should move forward. if found guilty then let the chips fall where they may.

drglnc wrote:




Look at us, finding common ground and stuff.

🍺
drglnc
a year ago

Look at us, finding common ground and stuff.

🍺

jeebling wrote:



I’ve never wavered on subjects like this. Repub or dem makes no difference. If evidence of a crime is present then charges and trials we should have. Trump is not immune and neither is Biden.
Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
And still no trial date, and still no evidence. Jim Jordan is a Trump puppet.
DrafterX
a year ago
How many puppets does Biden have..??:-k
MACS
a year ago

And still no trial date, and still no evidence. Jim Jordan is a Trump puppet.

Robert Sanders 1 wrote:



If Trump's family had 100 shell companies, or were selling paintings to the Chinese, you'd be screaming from the mountain tops... don't be obtuse. You know damn good and well he's one of the most corrupt politicians EVAH, you just refuse to acknowledge it.

The sad part for me is that he's old and senile. He already got away with it. For the last 50 years he's gotten away with it. He's going to die soon. All they can do is prosecute the family members. He's likely not even aware he's in trouble.
Robert Sanders 1
a year ago
^ I have yet to see any proof of shell companies. Could you please provide that? All I have found is allegations, something far different than truth. Finally quit playing the Trump card. He was twice impeached and twice not convicted. I think we can both agree that means he is twice innocent. I do not see any reason to bring Trump into a thread about Biden.
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

^ I have yet to see any proof of shell companies. Could you please provide that? All I have found is allegations, something far different than truth. Finally quit playing the Trump card. He was twice impeached and twice not convicted. I think we can both agree that means he is twice innocent. I do not see any reason to bring Trump into a thread about Biden.

Robert Sanders 1 wrote:




Read the "Presidenting is the thing" thread. It's all there.

OR maybe use the g00gl3.

Just type "biden shell companies funneled money into biden accounts" into any search engine.

There's your proof.

If you cannot see the difference between Trump and Biden then you're really just a party stooge and you can't hide it anymore.
rfenst
a year ago
Shell Companies are a common business enterprise. There is nothing inherently legal.

"State Farm", for example is a Shell Company. When you buy from "State Farm", you are really inured under one of its subsidiaries as:

State Farm Fire and Casualty Company
State Farm Life Insurance Company
State Farm Life and Accident Assurance Company (NY/CT/WI)
State Farm County Mutual Insurance Company of Texas (TX auto)
State Farm Mutual Insurance Company of Texas (TX preferred auto)
State Farm Indemnity Company / State Farm Guaranty Insurance Company (NJ auto)
State Farm General Insurance Company (CA home)
State Farm Florida Insurance Company (FL home)
Dover Bay Specialty Insurance Company
State Farm Lloyds (TX home/commercial)
State Farm Bank, F.S.B.
State Farm Investment Management Corp. (SFIMC)
State Farm VP Management Corp. (SFVPMC)
State Farm International Service, Inc.
State Farm Associate's Funds Trust
State Farm Mutual Fund Trust
SF Insurance Placement Corporation of Canada
Insurance Placement Services, Inc.
State Farm International Life Insurance Company Ltd.
Plaza One Realty Co.
State Farm Specialty Insurance Company
State Farm Guaranty Insurance Company
State Farm Variable Product Trust
HiRoad Assurance Company
Amberjack Ltd. (Real Estate)
State Farm Insurance of Canada


Of course Shell Companies can be used to hide money for a while. No doubt. But use of the term "Shell" does not imply anything at all improper. It is just a business and taxation strategy.

In fact, I have two dormant shell companies myself...
RayR
a year ago

And still no trial date, and still no evidence. Jim Jordan is a Trump puppet.

Robert Sanders 1 wrote:



The Republicans aren't as ruthless as the DemoBolsheviks. If they had the balls, they would just do it because impeaching is forever.
jeebling
a year ago

^ I have yet to see any proof of shell companies. Could you please provide that? All I have found is allegations, something far different than truth. Finally quit playing the Trump card. He was twice impeached and twice not convicted. I think we can both agree that means he is twice innocent. I do not see any reason to bring Trump into a thread about Biden.

Robert Sanders 1 wrote:



Well, you did say that Jordan is a Trump puppet. So are you the only one who gets to mention Trump? That doesn’t seem rational. Weird.
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