Gene363
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a year ago
From Social Security Data:

Age Range Count

100-109 4,734,407
110-119 3,627,007
120-129 3,472,849
130-139 3,936,311
140-149 3,542,044
150-159 1,345,083
160-169 121,807
170-179 6,087
180-189 695
190-199 448
200-209 870
210-219 866
220-229 1,039

240-249 1
360-369 1
DrMaddVibe
a year ago
[frypan] [frypan] [frypan]
JGKAMIN
a year ago
Those Civil War veterans are unfairly having their SS checks taken from them…
RayR
a year ago
I thought the MSM said those dead Biden voters were fake news.😕
Mr. Jones
a year ago
#2 post ???

Is that real??

If so...totally illegal and false
DrMaddVibe
a year ago

Those Civil War veterans are unfairly having their SS checks taken from them…

JGKAMIN wrote:




There's one Colonial/Tory on there too![whip]
MACS
a year ago
If you look at the list, how is it that over 38 million people age range 0-9 are receiving SS payments???
MACS
a year ago

I thought the MSM said those dead Biden voters were fake news.😕

RayR wrote:



The MSM still can't explain how Obama/Hillary/Harris only got around 65M votes and Biden got 81M votes.

16 million more than the 2 previous races and the current race. HOW?

Well... cheating with mail in votes. THAT's how. Trump won. But I am glad they cheated... because he was not ready for his second term yet. Neither was the country. He's ready now and so is the country.

He's presidentin' like a man who was twice impeached, sued, spied on, investigated, prosecuted and shot at. He doesn't have one single F left to give and it is my sincere hope that he and his entire cabinet (all confirmed, now) expose everything we all know has been happening.

Giddy ****in' up.
Gene363
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a year ago

The MSM still can't explain how Obama/Hillary/Harris only got around 65M votes and Biden got 81M votes.

16 million more than the 2 previous races and the current race.
HOW?

Well... cheating with mail in votes. THAT's how. Trump won. But I am glad they cheated... because he was not ready for his second term yet. Neither was the country. He's ready now and so is the country.

He's presidentin' like a man who was twice impeached, sued, spied on, investigated, prosecuted and shot at. He doesn't have one single F left to give and it is my sincere hope that he and his entire cabinet (all confirmed, now) expose everything we all know has been happening.

Giddy ****in' up.

MACS wrote:



See them listed below:

From Social Security Data:

Age Range Count

100-109 4,734,407
110-119 3,627,007
120-129 3,472,849
130-139 3,936,311
140-149 3,542,044
150-159 1,345,083
160-169 121,807
170-179 6,087
180-189 695
190-199 448
200-209 870
210-219 866
220-229 1,039

240-249 1
360-369 1

Gene363 wrote:



rfenst
a year ago
New Social Security chief contradicts claims that millions of dead people are getting payouts


WASHINGTON (AP) — The new head of the Social Security Administration said Wednesday that deceased centenarians are “not necessarily receiving benefits,” contradicting claims that tens of millions of dead people over the age of 100 are getting payments from the agency.

Lee Dudek, the new acting SSA commissioner who was placed in the role by President Donald Trump, gave the clarification after Trump and billionaire adviser Elon Musk falsely claimed on social media and in press briefings that people who are 100, 200 and even 300 years old are improperly and routinely getting benefits.

While it is true that improper payments have been made, including some to dead people, the numbers thrown out by Trump and Musk are overstated and misrepresent Social Security data.

Here are the facts:

On Tuesday, Trump said at a press briefing in Florida that “we have millions and millions of people over 100 years old” receiving Social Security benefits. “They’re obviously fraudulent or incompetent,” Trump said.

“If you take all of those millions of people off Social Security, all of a sudden we have a very powerful Social Security with people that are 80 and 70 and 90, but not 200 years old,” he said. He also said that there’s one person in the system listed as 360 years old.

He repeated the false claims while speaking at a Miami conference of international investors and billionaires Wednesday, despite the SSA commissioner’s earlier statement.

Musk, whose Department of Government Efficiency is seeking to root out fraud, waste and abuse, issued a slew of posts on his social media platform X on Monday night, including: “Maybe Twilight is real and there are a lot of vampires collecting Social Security” and “Having tens of millions of people marked in Social Security as “ALIVE” when they are definitely dead is a HUGE problem. Obviously. Some of these people would have been alive before America existed as a country. Think about that for a second …”

So are tens of millions of people over 100 years old receiving benefits?

No.

Part of the confusion comes from Social Security’s software system based on the COBOL programming language, which has a lack of date type. This means that some entries with missing or incomplete birthdates will default to a reference point of more than 150 years ago. The news organization WIRED first reported on the use of COBOL programming language at the Social Security Administration.

Additionally, a series of reports from the Social Security Administration’s inspector general in March 2023 and July 2024 state that the agency has not established a new system to properly annotate death information in its database, which included roughly 18.9 million Social Security numbers of people born in 1920 or earlier but were not marked as deceased. This does not mean, however, that these individuals were receiving benefits.

The agency decided not to update the database because of the cost to do so, which would run upward of $9 million.

A July 2023 Social Security OIG report states that “almost none of the numberholders discussed in the report currently receive SSA payments.” And, as of September 2015, the agency automatically stops payments to people who are older than 115 years old.

What does the acting Social Security commissioner say about that?

Dudek, who was named acting chief of the Social Security Administration after the resignation of Michelle King, issued a news release Wednesday reiterating the agency’s commitment to transparency. The last lines of the note acknowledged recent reporting about people older than 100 receiving benefits from the agency.

He seemed to confirm that confusion had arisen because of the default settings on the database.

“The reported data are people in our records with a Social Security number who do not have a date of death associated with their record. These individuals are not necessarily receiving benefits,” he said....
Gene363
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a year ago
Garbage in garbage out. There are a ton of *legacy systems in government service. It's sooo much easier to sit on crap data than it is to clean it up. While doable, it takes effort and a commitment to improvement.

I know, I've cleaned up the data from many systems to upload into a modern system. During this process there are department heads that do not want to have their crap data or their incompetence exposed. They also do not want to spend the time/money to clean up their data. They would rather dump their trash into the new system. There is no excuse this incompetence.

Compound these problems with incompetent government requirements for replacement systems. I've seen auditing, data entry controls, update tracking and data integrity controls deleted/disabled from systems to continue bad habits of manually screwing up data in the new system.

Bottom line: Incompetence

* Legacy as in pro;y designed and poorly operated systems.
MACS
a year ago
AP - it's bad... really bad... but not as bad as they made it out to be.

Oooookay.

Instead of saying that they exaggerated how bad it is, they tell you he's lying. Which he's not. That money is going SOMEWHERE. Of course it isn't going to 200 year olds... there aren't any. But who is getting it? The system is telling you it's being disbursed...
drglnc
a year ago
A July 2024 report from Social Security's inspector general states that from fiscal years 2015 through 2022, the agency paid out almost $8.6 trillion in benefits, including $71.8 billion — or less than 1% — in improper payments. Most of the erroneous payments were overpayments to living people.

In addition, in early January, the U.S. Treasury clawed back more than $31 million in a variety of federal payments— not just Social Security payments— that improperly went to dead people, a recovery that former Treasury official David Lebryk said was "just the tip of the iceberg."

The money was reclaimed as part of a five-month pilot program after Congress gave the Department of Treasury temporary access to the Social Security Administration's "Full Death Master File" for three years as part of the omnibus appropriations bill in 2021. The SSA maintains the most complete federal database of individuals who have died, and the file contains more than 142 million records, which go back to 1899, according to the Treasury.

Treasury estimated in January that it would recover more than $215 million during its three-year access period, which runs from December 2023 through 2026.
JGKAMIN
a year ago

New Social Security chief contradicts claims that millions of dead people are getting payouts

A July 2023 Social Security OIG report states that “almost none of the numberholders discussed in the report currently receive SSA payments.” And, as of September 2015, the agency automatically stops payments to people who are older than 115 years old.

rfenst wrote:


“Almost none”…reminiscent of a “mostly peaceful protest.”
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