Warren Buffett Retires (and Comments on Trumps Econ Moves) · Page 2

frankj1
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a year ago

#21

How about some paragraphing to make reading your thoughts painless?

rfenst wrote:

first "paragraph" was as bizarre a read as I've seen here.

rfenst
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a year ago

#22

first "paragraph" was as bizarre a read as I've seen here.

frankj1 wrote:

#You made it all the way through?

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8trackdisco
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a year ago

#23

Saw Trump cut a deal with England, with cuts tariffs on British auto, steel and aluminum.

Going with what Trump has said about tariffs making us rich and bringing jobs back to the USA, why make that deal?

He doesn't care about American workers in the auto, steel and aluminim industries?
He doesn't want those industries back in the USA?
Being that tariffs are going to make us rich, why is he overtly Making America Poorer Again by lowering our income/richness?

Are we already so rich, we can start removing the tariffs? Has the deficet issue already been solved?
By what measuring metric is he using to make the determination?

Same question with China. 145% tariff currently. Now he's signalling Bessent "80% Tariff on China seems right! Up to Scott B."

That could be fake news though, as it was posted from someone called Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump on something called Truth Social.

Curious.

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HockeyDad
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a year ago

#24

I have no idea how you got that “everything the orange man is bad’” label!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/DSs5PVLczOM

RayR
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a year ago

#25

I have no idea how you got that “everything the orange man is bad’” label!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/DSs5PVLczOM

HockeyDad wrote:

I guess Trump proved his point.

Gene363
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a year ago

#26

I have no idea how you got that “everything the orange man is bad’” label!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/DSs5PVLczOM

HockeyDad wrote:

The woke mind virus and TDS are the two most dangerous conditions in the US.

The escape pod: https://cigarbid.freeforums.net

MACS
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a year ago

#27

I have no idea how you got that “everything the orange man is bad’” label!

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/DSs5PVLczOM

HockeyDad wrote:

Huh... weird, right?

Every other country bends us over on tariffs... all good. Trump wants tariffs to be even, or at least fair... OH MY GOD, HE'S A TYRANT! If tariffs are bad, and they don't work... why does every other country use them?

If we have to be taxed to frickin' death to support our infrastructure, how the hell does Dubai have some of the absolute best infrastructure and not tax their people? Asking for a friend.

I still have some friends. Believe it or not... 😇

ZRX1200
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a year ago

#28

I can’t speak for others here…..

But I only hate 1.4% of you.

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#29

Aaaaaand no answers to my questions.

At least you guys are consistent.

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#30

8trackdisco wrote:

Assuming positive intent here. Maybe all of the Trump Flying Monkey Brigade missed the questions and can explain why he and his people made the moves I listed above.

Or, stay with Adroomis playbook of either avoid answering and or go on the attack, and not answer the questions.

In short, why are his actions not matchign his words?

Must have struck a nerve- got 5 of 6 to take shots.

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MACS
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a year ago

#31

His initial "tariffs" worked. He's getting people to the table. Art of the deal, remember? He had China thinking they could make deals with others, and that didn't go so well for them and now they want to talk, too.

How does his deal with England hurt Americans? Fair Trade... key word FAIR. Equal tariffs allow us to sell our products in each other's countries and let the products stand for themselves. Why do you think Japan builds vehicles in the USA? So they can avoid those tariffs. Side bonus... American jobs.

Guess what Germany does? Builds BMW, Mercedes and Volkswagens here. Avoid tariffs... American jobs.

I wonder where they get that steel and aluminum... 🤔 🤔

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8trackdisco
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a year ago

#32

MACS wrote:

..................... This is friggen excellent. A thoughtful, reasonable answer. I appreciate it. I actually do.

The Initial Tariffs Worked. Maybe? Is it getting people to the table. Yes?
Did it have to go this way? Diplomacy isn't Trumps strongsuit. He could have just as easily reached out to these countries quietly, and find common ground, the redo the deals, without stunting the economy.

How does his deal with England hurt Americans?

This is how (from an article with the link to the whole article). Not my words- they do a much better job than me.

Last week, GM said levies could scrape as much as $5 billion from its profits this year, while Ford expects to take a $1.5 billion hit, The Associated Press reported.

As a result of hikes on imported goods, Stellantis in April halted production at plants based in Canada and Mexico, which are both subject to taxes on foreign vehicles.

Blunt said the U.K. deal undercut the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), Trump’s first-term trade deal that replaced the divisive North America Free Trade Agreement.

“Under this deal, it will now be cheaper to import a UK vehicle with very little U.S. content than a USMCA compliant vehicle from Mexico or Canada that is half American parts. This hurts American automakers, suppliers, and auto workers,” Blunt said Friday.

“We hope this preferential access for UK vehicles over North American ones does not set a precedent for future negotiations with Asian and European competitors.”

https://thehill.com/business/5292037-auto-industry-critics-trump-uk-deal/

Again- truly appreciate the response and the share of thoughts.

DrafterX
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a year ago

#33

Did it have to go this way? Diplomacy isn't Trumps strongsuit. He could have just as easily reached out to these countries quietly, and find common ground, the redo the deals, without stunting the economy.

Transparency..?? 😕

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#34

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Transparency..?? 😕

Mmmm. Don't think so. More of a case of feeding red meat to the base.

For such a dealmaker, he's made some odd stumbles.

In the Russia Ukraine War negotiations, he suggested that Crimea isn't part of the negotiations. Trump conceeded something to the Russians that he didn't have the right to give away. What made it wore, was he didn't anything from the Russians in return for giving in on Crimea.

That's not very art of the the deal-y.

There are three levels of sharing information (broadly).
-Some visibility.
-Visibility.
-Transparency.

Transparency (a wide open show of your playbook) gives away too much information. Somewhere in the Some Vis to Vis category would have been a winner.

The other thing, that he did well with England, was not spiking the football. No We got a great deal! We won, they lost!

That type of thing would make potential trade partners wary.

Imagine making a deal with your wife on something and then you start walking around like a chickenhawk telling her how you got over on her. The next negotiation wouldn't go as well. Er, no? 🤨

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DrafterX
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a year ago

#35

The UK seems to be happy with the deal.. But if it been quietly to each country they may not have taken it seriously.. just speculation on my part.. but I think this is going to work out in our favor.. 😟

8trackdisco
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a year ago

#36

DrafterX wrote:

Maybe. Hope so.

If it is all about simply getting better deals, and not truly bringing industries back to America (like steel and aluminum as demonstrated with lowering the tariffs on those two with the Brits), I’m guessing business owners and companies aren’t going to pay for infrastructure and expand in the states.

Stopping Nippon Steel from purchasing US Steel because we need to reinvest in our own steel making in one breath, while making it easier to import more British steel is counterproductive.

The people saying it is about industry and cutting better trade deals are kidding themselves.

Appreciate the exchange of ideas, Drafter.

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DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#37

Transparency..?? 😕

8trackdisco wrote:

Listen to yourself. Who ever told you that Russia was going to cede Crimea? Obama GAVE it away. Then the rest is more of the same lunacy.

Sit back STFU and watch orangeman baaad eat the rest of your mind.

MACS
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a year ago

#38

8trackdisco wrote:

You're feeding on what someone else is telling you MIGHT happen. I lost about 40k in the market and it's down to 10k-ish now. Am I happy with that? No, frankly, I am not. But it isn't about today... it's about the long haul. I haven't lost a dime unless I panic.

Don't panic. Don't listen to the media. They're all about doom and gloom and absolutely silent when the market bounces back. You say Trump supporters can't say anything bad about him and that's simply not true. The media can't say anything good about him.

You want bad? I'm pissed off that DOGE is uncovering fraud and nothing is being done. I'm disappointed in Kash Patel and Pam Bondi (Trump appointed) doing nothing. We keep hearing about what they found in USAID, and now Ukraine released a list of the politicians who took kickbacks (D and R) and NOTHING IS BEING DONE.

The difference between MAGA supporters and others is we don't give 2 sheits what letter is by the name. If they're fkn crooked, we want them OUT, arrested, charged and prosecuted.

I'd love for Trump to STFU and actually DO SOMETHING about the corruption. And the Rep controlled congress and senate is blocking his every move. What does that tell me? Tells me another revolution might be in order.

It's that bad. Trust your eyes.

DrMaddVibe
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a year ago

#39

MACS wrote:

You can tell him differently than his beliefs till the cows come home. I personally love it when he asks to be informed and ignores it. ALL of it. Says he can decipher "information" but cannot go to sources that offer a differing opinion. Hivemind, groupspeak, plain blind ignorance? I don't know. I don't care. How anyone can be pissed about DOGE and shuffling the illegal aliens outta here blows my mind. There is no talking to that. I see them like Roddy Piper did in "Them". They're all around us. They spit out signs though. Face masks...still, brightly colored hair, nose rings, blurting out their TDS emotes in inappropriate places like work and check out lanes, wide-eyed stares and temper tantrums. All of that is never adulting and God strike me dead if I'm not stating facts. We ALL see them. All over the nation and I can make a case for the world too.

Like you...I want action. Stop telling me you're going to release this, that or you're going to press charges. Charge them, perp walk them and put them in court. Sooner the better. It the ol' "rip the band-aid off" mantra. Gonna suck, but it HAS to happen. As for "revolution"...we should seek out and understand our Founding Fathers and how they did it. It worked. Hell, they even advocated for it! We know the DNC is a terrorist organization.

Here's a great one...

Manufactured Rage, Broken Minds
How Democratic Propaganda Triggered a Mental Health Crisis in Young Liberal Women

Vaughn Cordle, CFA - May 09, 2025

Through relentless hate-driven propaganda, Marxist-inspired psychological warfare, and AI-enforced censorship, the Democratic Party and its media allies have poisoned the minds of millions of young liberal women-especially those radicalized in academia and conditioned to see Donald Trump and his supporters as existential threats. This essay documents the psychological wreckage of believing orchestrated lies and exposes the party that weaponized fear, rage, and moral panic to mobilize votes and radicalize emotionally vulnerable young women.

The Psychological Damage of Narrative Lies

A quiet but devastating crisis has been festering beneath the surface of American politics, ignored and rationalized by the very party that claims to champion mental health. According to Pew (2020), 56.3% of white liberal women aged 18–29 report a mental health diagnosis-nearly double that of their conservative peers. This gap is not incidental, nor is it simply a reflection of cultural openness or access to therapy. It is the residue of systematic psychological manipulation: the Marxist oppressor-oppressed framework, institutionalized DEI dogma, and AI-amplified falsehoods like the “fine people hoax.”

This essay contends that Democratic-aligned propaganda, amplified by narrative engineering and AI-driven censorship, is directly responsible for at least 20–30% of the mental health crisis among young liberal women. These women were not merely misinformed-they were systematically indoctrinated and radicalized through narrative warfare, conditioned to view Donald Trump and his supporters as existential threats to their safety and identity. When the narrative collapsed-when Trump won, or when the promised utopia failed to materialize-the psychological cost was profound. The movement that weaponized their fear and outrage ultimately abandoned them, leaving a generation broken and disillusioned.

By tracing the mechanisms of mass formation, narrative distortion, and the censorship-industrial complex, this essay documents the psychological fallout of believing lies-and indicts the political actors who weaponized emotional vulnerability for power. The cost was not just political, but psychological and deeply personal: a generation left to mourn the collapse of an identity built on manufactured rage and broken promises.

The Ideological Weaponization of Mental Fragility

Hatred of Trump, for many young liberal women, became a form of ritualized moral signaling-a social currency exchanged in elite cultural circles. This was never about policy; it was about identity, belonging, and the desperate need to appear righteous and outraged. To call Trump a “Nazi, fascist, rapist” was not to engage in political argument but to perform a tribal incantation-a compulsive purge of internal insecurity through public condemnation.

Contemporary progressive ideology thrives on a brittle dichotomy: victim versus oppressor. Through DEI and intersectionality, the Democratic Party offered moral superiority as identity-but only through permanent grievance or atonement. Young white liberal women were told they must either apologize forever for privilege or collapse into victimhood. The result? Chronic anxiety, emotional fragility, and an inability to tolerate dissonance. Resilience was pathologized. Fragility was valorized.

Layered onto this psychological conditioning is the censorship-industrial complex-a $472.6 million USAID-funded disinformation apparatus that floods the public mind through legacy media, social platforms, and AI trained on progressive orthodoxy (USAID, 2024). This machine does not inform; it programs. The result is a synthetic moral universe-algorithmically reinforced, politically weaponized, and so fragile it shatters on contact with truth. The “Trump is a fascist dictator” hoax. The “very fine people” lie. The false rapist and felon narratives. Each one repeated, curated, and enforced until belief became identity. The lies held their identity together. When truth broke through, so did they.

The Democratic Party ignored the emotional breakdowns-and the collateral damage to one of its most loyal constituents. The psychological wreckage was collateral in a war for narrative dominance, where emotional instability became both weapon and casualty.

Trump Derangement Syndrome as Manufactured Mass Psychosis

This new psychological archetype—the Radical Woke Narcissist—is fueled not by principle but by performative victimhood, ideological zeal, and a narcissistic craving for validation. These activists emote, rage, and moralize. It’s emotional exhibitionism—a self-reinforcing loop of outrage, identity performance, and ritualized protest. They think they’re fighting for social justice—but what they’re really chasing is psychological validation through ritualized protest and performative rage.

TDS—Trump Derangement Syndrome—is more than a meme. It’s a psychological condition, a form of narcissistic mass psychosis. It mirrors what psychologist Mattias Desmet describes as mass formation psychosis: a hypnotic group state sustained by fear, repetition, and social reward. Trump became a myth, a symbol, an evil villain. In this trance, to oppose Trump was to achieve moral purity. And when Trump returned—elected again by a nation they were told despised him—it triggered psychic implosion. Not a loss. A violent severing from the fantasy they were promised.

The numbers are indisputable:

Pew (2020): 56.3% of white liberal women 18–29 diagnosed with a mental illness

Columbia (2023): Liberal girls from low-income families show highest depression rates

CDC (2021): 57% of high school girls felt persistently sad or hopeless (vs. 24% of boys)

GSS (1972–2018): Liberal women consistently report worse mental health outcomes

These are not anomalies. They are the logical outcomes of systematic narrative abuse.

This crisis is deepened by the party’s betrayal of women on a biological front—endorsing male athletes in women’s sports, dismantling the very concept of womanhood in the name of ideological compliance. These betrayals compound the damage. A 2023 Current Psychology study links radical activism to dark triad traits—narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy—explaining why destruction is moralized and insanity normalized.

And when the lies collapse? So do the people built on them.

The "wild-eyed" courthouse screamer. The woman convinced she’s resisting Nazis. The young activists smashing Teslas in a ritual of AI-curated rage. These aren’t isolated meltdowns. They’re the psychic wreckage of mass psychological warfare.

Propaganda’s Measurable Toll

Social platforms, driven by AI and saturated with bots and paid propagandists, simulate consensus and deepen polarization. In Q3 2024, Meta removed 1.1 billion fake accounts—many of which were amplifying anti-Trump sentiment and reinforcing ideological illusions.

Critics dismiss this crisis as diagnostic inflation or cultural openness to therapy. But that’s misdirection. Yes, liberals seek therapy more—but not because they’re enlightened. Because they’re suffering more.

Lancet Public Health: Liberals are 30% more likely to seek treatment

All major surveys (Pew, Columbia, CDC, GSS) confirm liberal women experience far more emotional distress than conservatives

Even after controlling for debt, climate anxiety, loneliness—the gap remains

Democratic Party propaganda likely accounts for 20–30% of the psychological damage. That includes AI-curated rage, collapsing narratives, identity destruction, and the emotional whiplash of constantly shifting social scripts. This isn’t accidental. It’s a deliberate byproduct of political strategy—where emotional instability is both a weapon and a casualty.

Denial, Deflection, and the Collapse of the Narrative

Critics deflect with predictable refrains: “It’s Trump’s fault.” “Everyone’s anxious.” “It’s just therapy-seeking bias.” But the data—and the ideological logic—says otherwise.

Thomas Sowell observed that liberal anxiety often stems from the collapse of their assumed moral superiority.

Jordan Peterson attributes nearly 25% of modern anxiety to ideological dissonance created by utopian leftist illusions.

Political Behavior Journal finds that liberals experience far more distress in moments of political uncertainty—not because of harm, but because their worldview is collapsing.

Even The Lancet confirms the distress gap persists, even after adjusting for external stressors.

This isn’t coincidence. It’s consequence.

The psychological damage is real. Measurable. Predictable. It is the direct result of ideological manipulation. To ignore it is not compassion. It is complicity. These young women were not just misled. They were used and abused—by a political machine that grooms, exploits, and discards its most loyal believers in pursuit of power.

The young liberal women who sobbed, screamed, and spiraled after Trump’s 2024 victory weren’t just grieving an election—they were mourning the collapse of an identity built on lies. They were never protected. They were never empowered. They were conscripted into a cultural war by a party that incited their rage and exploited it for power—never caring about the emotional wreckage left behind. Their breakdowns are not anomalies. They are the wages of obedience to a movement that promised purpose but delivered pathology.

This is not just a mental health crisis—it is the psychological carnage of ideological warfare. And the Democratic Party owns it.

Appendix A: The Political Lies That Conditioned a Generation

To grasp the full scale of psychological manipulation inflicted on young liberal women, one must examine the volume, intensity, and repetition of the falsehoods they were conditioned to believe. These weren’t policy disagreements. They were ideological implants—crafted by party operatives, amplified by AI, legacy media, and academia, and repeated until they fused with identity. For many, these lies became emotional truths, impervious to evidence and devastating when exposed.

Here is a short inventory of the most damaging lies:

“Trump broke democracy and Democratic women’s hearts”: Trump didn’t break democracy—he exposed the incompetence, elitism, and delusion at the core of the Democratic machine. The real collapse was emotional: a ruling class unmasked, and its loyal foot soldiers left in psychological freefall.

“Trump is a threat to democracy”: As shown in A Broken Party, it was the Democratic establishment that weaponized the FBI, censored dissent, and called for street-level chaos post-election. Trump’s policies strengthened democratic accountability—while theirs eroded it.

“Trump is a rapist”: No police report, no criminal charge, no timeline, no forensic evidence. The E. Jean Carroll case yielded a civil defamation judgment under the lowest legal standard, after a jury rejected the rape claim.

“Trump is a convicted felon”: As of May 2025, Donald Trump has not been convicted of any actual crime. The only legal action resulting in a charge involves a bookkeeping entry—an unprecedented prosecution widely denounced by legal scholars as politically motivated lawfare.

“Trump is a racist”: Zero evidence of this smear. No court has ever found Trump guilty of racism, nor has he been convicted under any statute for discriminatory conduct. The claim is a smear rooted in political rhetoric, not legal fact.

“Trump is a fascist dictator”: Trump did not expand the surveillance state, censor opposition speech, or jail political adversaries. His presidency focused on deregulation, economic nationalism, and returning power to the states. The authoritarianism attributed to him was psychological projection from his opponents.

“Trump called neo-Nazis ‘very fine people’”: A maliciously edited quote from a Charlottesville press conference. In the full context, Trump explicitly condemned white nationalists and neo-Nazis.

Each of these lies served a political function: to inflame contempt, foster moral panic, and replace reason with rage. They were weapons of psychological conditioning, and it worked perfectly.

Key Sources and Supporting Evidence

Pew Research Center – American Trends Panel, Wave 64 (2020); Mental Health Distress (2020–2022); Parenting Concerns (2022)

Columbia University – Depression Rates Among Liberal Youth (2023)

CDC – Youth Risk Behavior Survey (2021)

General Social Survey (GSS) – Mental Health Trends, 1972–2018

The Lancet Public Health – Mental Health Service Utilization by Political Ideology

Journal of Anxiety Disorders – Political Narratives and Anxiety

Social Psychological and Personality Science – Moral Outrage and Mental Health

Survey Center on American Life – The Despair of Young Liberal Women

Thomas Sowell – The Vision of the Anointed

Jordan Peterson – 12 Rules for Life

Vaughn Cordle – A Broken Party, Inside the Mind of the Woke Political Extremist, The Cult of Contempt, Shattered Illusions, AI’s Democratic Mind Control, The Cult of Psychotic Contempt, The Architects of Deception, Algorithmic Deceit, The Marxist Matrix, The Battle for the Mind, They Belong in the Streets, Extremists of Virtue, Regime Restoration, The Collapse of the Democratic Party, Progressive Women: Dealing with Fear and Grief After Trump’s Victory, and others

USAID – $472.6M in funding records for Internews and related disinformation initiatives

Multimedia Evidence – Video footage of post-election meltdowns, Tesla attacks, and TDS behavior (archived in Cordle Reports)

https://vaughncordle.substack.com/p/manufactured-rage-broken-minds

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8trackdisco
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a year ago

#40

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Crimea. Imagine you missing the point of a negotiation.
Trump should start with…. Putin, you have to get out of Crimea. If Putin wants it that bad, he’s got to give something up for it. That is how effective negotiating works.

I agree that you provide nothing but the same old lunacy. You are 100% Orange Meng Good, while you misconstrue my position. Told your dim brain a few different times. I like the majority of what he is doing on Immigration.

But I suppose if I read few things outside of Breitbart and ZeroHedge, I’d probably be 98.2% retard too.

So pour yourself a cup of Chez Whiz, and work the last of the 1.8% of the sanity remaining into a tissue and take a nap.

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