RayR
a year ago
Don't be ridiculous, Neocon Nikki. Nobody would give that Biden regime anything.


Haley on Trump’s Qatari jet: ‘If this were Biden, we would be furious’

by Elizabeth Crisp - 05/13/25 1:32 PM ET

Former GOP presidential contender Nikki Haley dinged President Trump on Tuesday over his decision to accept a palatial $400 million jet from Qatar to temporarily replace Air Force One.

“Regardless of how beautiful the plane may be, it opens a door and implies the President and US can be bought,” Haley, who served as ambassador to the United Nations during Trump’s first term, wrote in a post on the social platform X. “If this were [former President] Biden, we would be furious.”

Trump, who is in the Middle East this week, has faced criticism from both sides of the aisle — including from some of his most ardent supporters — over the pricy present from a foreign government, but he defended the move Monday, telling reporters it would be “stupid” for him to turn down the offer.

“I could be a stupid person and say, ‘No we don’t want a free, very expensive airplane,’ but I thought it was a great gesture,” Trump said.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5297853-nikki-haley-donald-trump-qatar-airplane/ 


DrMaddVibe
a year ago
Whole lotta crap being peddled.


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/05/17/sen-markwayne-mullin-plane-from-qatar-has-been-in-negotiations-under-biden-administration/ 

Boring is screwing over America
RayR
a year ago


Ya, nobody would give Joe Biden even a used camel for free. 🐪🐪🐪🐪
8trackdisco
a year ago
As a study in math, I wonder what the net-net is the value of the plane received vs what it is going to cost to tear it all down, assure there isn't any spywear on it and then reconstruct it again, how free is it?

As a country, laws don't seem to mean much any longer.

It's a four tiered justice system (the Woke Left, Trump, The Rich, then everyone else).
MACS
a year ago
Huh... seems the Qatar plane contoversy began under Biden, not Trump. The left didn't say a word back then... Now they want to point fingers?

Senator Markwayne Mullin revealed on CNN that negotiations for a plane from Qatar, initially portrayed as a gift to president Trump, actually began under Biden's administration a year earlier, due to the need for a backup for Air Force One... which is 40 years old.

This revelation challenges the narrative that the plane was solely a gesture from Qatar to Trump, revealing instead, that it was part of ongoing discussions initiated by the Biden Administration for practical reasons.

Nearly every US President has accepted gifts from foreign nations. And it seems likely that many, if not all of them, have received gifts in excess of $480.

Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act:
Gifts of minimal value ($480)can be accepted as souvenirs or marks of courtesy, as per 5 U.S.C. 7342(c)(1)(A).

Gifts above this value can be accepted if refusal would cause offense, embarrassment, or harm to foreign relations, under 5 U.S.C. 7342(c)(1)(B). However, these must be relinquished to the employing agency within 60 days and are considered property of the United States, as detailed in 41 C.F.R. 102-42-15, 102-42.70.

Once again... the media either blatantly LYING to us, or deliberately not looking into it before reporting on it. Please, for the love of God... don't believe a word the media spews until you research it first.
MACS
a year ago

Sounds to me like they're donating a plane to the office of the president, which Trump currently holds. If it stays with the office when he leaves office... what's the foul?

I do not think he should accept it as a personal gift, but for the USA... why not?

MACS wrote:



^I fkn nailed it right there.

Thankyouverymuch
ZRX1200
a year ago
I’ll hold my breath for corrections and retractions….
ZRX1200
a year ago
OUTRAGEOUS!!!
RayR
a year ago
Some foreign country gave the Statue of Liberty to the U.S. Maybe there should have been OUTRAGE, and they should have refused it.
drglnc
a year ago

Some foreign country gave the Statue of Liberty to the U.S. Maybe there should have been OUTRAGE, and they should have refused it.

RayR wrote:




idiotic statement at best... terrible troll attempt at worst... the Statue of liberty was a gift to the country and subject to a vote of Congress of the 22d of February, 1877 as to if it would be accepted... it was then NOT transfered to President Grover Cleveland for personal use after he left office like Trumps team has seaid will happen with this plane...

also the statue did not need to be completly retro fit and rebuilt to the tune of a rumored 100 million... the use DID contrsct the base for the statue by choice at a cost of $270k in 1877 dollars which equates to aprox 9 million today... that was a choice... and again... the country still owns it... not Clevlend...


DrafterX
a year ago
I thought it was in NYC...:-k
drglnc
a year ago

Huh... seems the Qatar plane contoversy began under Biden, not Trump. The left didn't say a word back then... Now they want to point fingers?

Senator Markwayne Mullin revealed on CNN that negotiations for a plane from Qatar, initially portrayed as a gift to president Trump, actually began under Biden's administration a year earlier, due to the need for a backup for Air Force One... which is 40 years old.

This revelation challenges the narrative that the plane was solely a gesture from Qatar to Trump, revealing instead, that it was part of ongoing discussions initiated by the Biden Administration for practical reasons.

Nearly every US President has accepted gifts from foreign nations. And it seems likely that many, if not all of them, have received gifts in excess of $480.

Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act:
Gifts of minimal value ($480)can be accepted as souvenirs or marks of courtesy, as per 5 U.S.C. 7342(c)(1)(A).

Gifts above this value can be accepted if refusal would cause offense, embarrassment, or harm to foreign relations, under 5 U.S.C. 7342(c)(1)(B). However, these must be relinquished to the employing agency within 60 days and are considered property of the United States, as detailed in 41 C.F.R. 102-42-15, 102-42.70.

Once again... the media either blatantly LYING to us, or deliberately not looking into it before reporting on it. Please, for the love of God... don't believe a word the media spews until you research it first.

MACS wrote:



Was The Biden Admin trying to buy it? have it given as a gift to the US or to Biden directly? would it have been voted on by congress as is the law if it was a gift? was it planned to be transferred to bidens presidential library at the end of his term? is Trump planning to pay for it when he takes it after he leaves office as the whitehouse said he would?


MACS
a year ago

Was The Biden Admin trying to buy it? have it given as a gift to the US or to Biden directly? would it have been voted on by congress as is the law if it was a gift? was it planned to be transferred to bidens presidential library at the end of his term? is Trump planning to pay for it when he takes it after he leaves office as the whitehouse said he would?


drglnc wrote:


You're being outraged over questions, now. It's TDS, big time... wait until he does something wrong before being outraged. You quoted me... did you actually read it? And look at the laws referenced?
drglnc
a year ago

You're being outraged over questions, now. It's TDS, big time... wait until he does something wrong before being outraged. You quoted me... did you actually read it? And look at the laws referenced?

MACS wrote:




i did read it... and my questions are based on what i read... TDS? no... my uncomftableness with the situtation is soley based on the planned action laid out by trumps own whitehouse... i quoted YOU because i was responding to YOU...

You made statments that allege biden was preparing to do the same thing trump actually did yet... you have no answers to the questions that determine if it was the same...
RayR
a year ago

idiotic statement at best... terrible troll attempt at worst... the Statue of liberty was a gift to the country and subject to a vote of Congress of the 22d of February, 1877 as to if it would be accepted... it was then NOT transfered to President Grover Cleveland for personal use after he left office like Trumps team has seaid will happen with this plane...

also the statue did not need to be completly retro fit and rebuilt to the tune of a rumored 100 million... the use DID contrsct the base for the statue by choice at a cost of $270k in 1877 dollars which equates to aprox 9 million today... that was a choice... and again... the country still owns it... not Clevlend...


drglnc wrote:



How dare you!

Why would Grover Cleveland need that statue for his personal use? That makes no sense.
He was against the government spending taxpayers' money on most stuff that should be funded privately anyway.


BARTHOLDI'S CONCEPTION of the international memorial was accepted, and in November 1875 the Franco-American Union was formed to make plans, secure funds, and prosecute the program.

DE LABOULAYE HEADS FRANCO-AMERICAN UNION. Edouard de Laboulaye was named president of the Union, and among its members were the most notable names in France. It was decided that the finished work of the entire monument would represent the joint effort of the two nations. The French people would build the statue and transport it to the United States; and the American people would build the pedestal on which it was to stand.

The French people responded instantaneously, and Bartholdi was able to start work on the statue almost immediately. Public fetes and other entertainments were given to help raise funds. Gounod, the famous composer, wrote a song to the statue which he presented at the Paris Opera. In the spring of 1878 it was decided to organize a lottery to augment the fund—the law of France permitted lotteries for charitable and artistic causes, and the Statue of Liberty qualified under both.

It was soon discovered that the statue would cost much more than had been anticipated—the final cost was approximately $250,000—and it was not until July 1882 that the total amount was subscribed. Every penny of this fund was contributed by the French people. The French Government had not been asked to aid in the construction of the statue.

THE AMERICAN COMMITTEE. Word of the proposal to construct the statue reached the United States even before the Franco-American Union issued its appeal for funds in 1875. There was reluctance on the part of Americans to begin construction of the pedestal, however, until some material steps toward creation of the statue were taken, and it was not until September 1876 that a committee was appointed by the famous Union League Club, in New York, with John Jay as its chairman, to secure funds for the pedestal. A similar committee was established in Philadelphia. But public apathy continued, and the necessary funds were not obtained. For this there probably were a number of reasons, among them a persistent belief that the colossal statue would not be completed. Another was the idea that the statue was a New York City project, not national in character. Others did not understand the international implications of the gift. And there were disagreements as to its location.

With all these and other misunderstandings, the year 1876 came to a close with no material accomplishment, despite the exhibition of the completed right arm and torch of the statue at the Centennial Exposition in Philadelphia in 1876 and later at Madison Square in New York City. In France, the completed head and shoulders of the statue were placed on public exhibition to encourage subscriptions there.

In January 1877, the American Committee for the construction of the pedestal was formed. With a membership of 114 at first, it soon grew to include more than 400 prominent men. William M. Evarts was elected chairman, Henry F. Spaulding, treasurer, and Richard Butler, secretary.

Calculating that the cost of constructing the pedestal and placing the statue upon it would be $125,000, an immediate appeal was made for that amount. Again, there was a lack of enthusiasm. The committee also found it necessary to double the original estimate. From 1877 to 1881 little progress was made. The majority of the press was hostile, and the people took the attitude that they should not be called upon to finance the construction of "New York's Lighthouse."

In 1882, word came from France that the last franc necessary for construction of the statue had been collected and that the colossal figure would be completed in 1883. With the impetus thus given, by January 1884 the American Committee had collected $125,000, most of it from New York. Contracts already entered into soon depleted the fund, and by January 1885 the committee again found itself without a penny in its treasury and with little prospect of obtaining more.

Appeals were made in vain to the people, to the New York Assembly, and to the Congress of the United States. In March 1885, Treasurer Spaulding reported that $182,000 had been subscribed, but that all but $3,000 had been spent. He stated that, unless an additional $100,000 could be raised, the construction of the pedestal would have to be abandoned, and it would not be possible to accept the generous gift of the people of France, despite the fact that the statue already had been presented to the American Minister in Paris and had been on display in that city.

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https://www.nps.gov/parkhistory/online_books/hh/11/hh11c.htm 






drglnc
a year ago

How dare you!

Why would Grover Cleveland need that statue for his personal use? That makes no sense.
He was against the government spending taxpayers' money on most stuff that should be funded privately anyway.


BARTHOLDI'S CONCEPTION of the international memorial was accepted, and in November 1875 the Franco-American Union was formed to make plans, secure funds, and prosecute the program.






RayR wrote:



How dare i? easily... why does trump need this plane for personal use once out of office? the entire premise that he will take it for his personal use and move it to his library as stated by his own white house is all the proof you need that it is not a gift to the country... it is a gift for him... that will cost millions to the tax payer... anyone dem, repup or any other political leaning that is ok with this situtation and activly defend it is an idiot... if it was going to be made into air force one and left for future presidents that would be a completly different story...
HockeyDad
a year ago
It is an outrage! Finally the Democrats have an issue to stand on for the next election. No free planes!

Trump is not going to use the plane for personal use. That is a manufactured fact. The plane would be obsolete as soon as Boeing delivers the real AF1s that are years late. It can go to Trump’s library or go park in the desert in Tucson and be stripped for parts.

It can’t go to Biden’s library because there will not be a Biden library.

The real question is can Boeing actually deliver or will this plane remain in service as AF1 for 10 years.
delta1
a year ago

The Clinton one was fake news.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



and so was the story about Al Gore/Manbearpig getting a free jet from Kuwaiti...
rfenst
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a year ago
The fact that Trump requested it says it all.
HockeyDad
a year ago

The fact that Trump requested it says it all.

rfenst wrote:



What did it say ?
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