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2024 Election Predictions
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#51 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
A reasonable point, however when despots control media/propaganda and the judicial system the alternatives are quite narrow.

They may not be. But, that certainly isn't the present situation at all.
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#52 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
They may not be. But, that certainly isn't the present situation at all.


Albeit a terrifying thought, I believe it most certainly true. The media and most social networking sites have admited following propaganda directives from the government.
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#53 Posted:
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Never in my 50+ years on this planet have I seen such an inept group as is the House Republican Caucus. They give new mean to the word "cannibal.'

The situation is so dire in fact that the for the first time in history control of the House is in danger of flipping midterm. As it stands right now there are 431 seated members in the House; 218 R's and 213 D's.

Gallager or Wisconsin plans to leave in April. When he does the count will be 430 members: 217 R's and 213 D's. There won't be a special election for that seat since he plans to leave after the deadline for holding a special election to fill the seat.

In April, Democrats are expected to pick up a seat when a special election is held to replace Higgins of New York. If that happens the count is expected to be 431 with 217 R's and 214 D's.

That leaves a 3-vote majority. However, other Republicans have hinted at leaving early. It only takes a couple since in case of a tie any motion fails.

Amazing how the Republicans thought they would have a 20-50 vote majority after the midterms when coupled a President who had historically low approval ratings.

One of the problems facing Republicans when trying to appeal to undecided voters is their obsession with replacing Speakers. McCarthy was brought down due to spending by a guy who inserted one of the most expensive earmarks into the current spending bill. Now it looks like his replacement may be brought down by a member of his own caucus who inserted 5 earmarks herself.

In addition, it seems like every time you turn around, they want to impeach someone. If it isn't Mayorkas its Garland. Hell, if I didn't know better, I'd think they are hell bent on impeaching Hunter Biden even though he doesn't hold office.

Now they have rallied around the absolute worst person they could have nominated for President. With such a weak opponent all the Republicans needed to do was pick a non-controversial candidate with experience in government and that person would win in a landslide. Instead, the pick the one person whose approval ratings match the idiot they are trying to replace and run the risk of not only losing the Presidential race but get hosed in the Senate and House elections as well.
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#54 Posted:
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Gene363 wrote:
A reasonable point, however when despots control media/propaganda and the judicial system the alternatives are quite narrow.


Not really. You seek to control the narrative. However, the Republicans are awful at doing so.
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#55 Posted:
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Sometimes, smart people believe stupid things.

They’d rather go down with their Cinnamon Faux Messiah, than win elections and effectively govern the country.

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#56 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Sometimes, smart people believe stupid things.

They’d rather go down with their Cinnamon Faux Messiah, than win elections and effectively govern the country.



Ive been thinking about this. Though I voted for him twice already I just can’t stomach doing it again. On the other hand I’d wouldn’t vote for Biden if he were the only candidate on the ballot. So what am I to do?

Considering Louisiana is a solid red state Trump will probably carry it with a double digit lead. There is no situation where Biden will come close. So I think I’ll vote for RFK Jr. Perhaps if enough voters begin to seriously consider someone other than the candidates put forth by the Reps and Dems the parties will get the message and stop pushing for extremist candidates.
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#57 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Ive been thinking about this. Though I voted for him twice already I just can’t stomach doing it again. On the other hand I’d wouldn’t vote for Biden if he were the only candidate on the ballot. So what am I to do?

Considering Louisiana is a solid red state Trump will probably carry it with a double digit lead. There is no situation where Biden will come close. So I think I’ll vote for RFK Jr. Perhaps if enough voters begin to seriously consider someone other than the candidates put forth by the Reps and Dems the parties will get the message and stop pushing for extremist candidates.


Wisconsin is one of the swing states. I’m voting JFK Jr.
My wife is in the quandary of most reasonable people; knows Biden is a dismal failure, and he’s a coin flip to be incapacitated while in office. She won’t vote for a potential President Harris. Trump sickens her.
Her vote will be a game time decision.
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#58 Posted:
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Wisconsin primary results.
Trump only got 79% of the republican vote.
Haley got 74,000 votes (13% of the Republican vote).
Made me smile.

Wisconsin certainly is on the edge of the swing.
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#59 Posted:
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There was a lot of hay in the local media that Trump should be worried he didn't pull out the matching numbers from his last campaign.

On some other forums I belong to...it was commonly understood he had already sown up the GOP nomination. There was nothing else on the ballot but the Presidential ticket. Keep the powder dry.

I wouldn't read too much into the "tea leaves" until November.
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#60 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
There was a lot of hay in the local media that Trump should be worried he didn't pull out the matching numbers from his last campaign.

On some other forums I belong to...it was commonly understood he had already sown up the GOP nomination. There was nothing else on the ballot but the Presidential ticket. Keep the powder dry.

I wouldn't read too much into the "tea leaves" until November.


Or at least October.
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#61 Posted:
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https://thenationalpulse.com/2024/04/05/rfk-apologizes-after-briefly-appearing-to-back-j6-defendants/


Oooops!


Dems are still gonna dem!
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#62 Posted:
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I am pretty much over it as far as politics go. Of the people, by the people, and for the people was forgotten long ago. We vote for conservative oligarchs or liberal oligarchs, our government is not run by politicians, it is run by oligarchs. This has been the demise of every great society. I think the only uncertainties are how long will the demise take, will we land like Rome or Great Britain, and who will be the next great society?
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#63 Posted:
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You are right Spey, all governments are just growing gangs of thieves and killers pretending to be the rightful rulers.
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#64 Posted:
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Speyside2 wrote:
I am pretty much over it as far as politics go. Of the people, by the people, and for the people was forgotten long ago. We vote for conservative oligarchs or liberal oligarchs, our government is not run by politicians, it is run by oligarchs. This has been the demise of every great society. I think the only uncertainties are how long will the demise take, will we land like Rome or Great Britain, and who will be the next great society?

Every society known to man has fallen inevitably.
Just a question of how long it will take and where we are on the curve.
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#65 Posted:
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So Trump has gone on record as being in favor of the individual states deciding what if any abortion rights will exist within a particular state as long as there are exceptions for rape, incest and mother’s health. Shortly thereafter Pence said he slapped right to lifer supporters in the face by not supporting a federal ban.

Makes sense to me. I mean a candidate who is trying to get elected should take a stand opposite what 62ish percent of the polled electorate strongly support. Sounds like sage advice to me. Remind me why Republicans couldn’t take the Senate and an overwhelming majority in the House in an midterm election when the sitting President who happens to be in the opposition party was enjoying some of the lowest approval ratings in recorded history.

I see an interesting road ahead of the Republican Party. Eventually moderates will leave the party and perhaps form a third party and hand over the Republican Party to the evangelical right which controls about 20% of the total electorate. If we’re lucky, enough moderates will leave the Democratic Party as well and join the moderate ex-Republicans thus moving the country more towards the center. Perhaps they will have a large enough majority to end the extremism and get back to legislating our way out of this mess.
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#66 Posted:
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Anth, I agree.

Speaking of the religous right, did you read what MJT said: It was to the effect of: "The recent earthquakes and tornadoes in the U.S. are a "sign from God that our country needs to repent."
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#67 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Anth, I agree.

Speaking of the religous right, did you read what MJT said: It was to the effect of: "The recent earthquakes and tornadoes in the U.S. are a "sign from God that our country needs to repent."


If an 8.0 hits San Francisco she might be right.

In the meantime liberals think the eclipse and earthquake are a sign from the God of climate change.
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#68 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Anth, I agree.

Speaking of the religous right, did you read what MJT said: It was to the effect of: "The recent earthquakes and tornadoes in the U.S. are a "sign from God that our country needs to repent."



What's scary is that at least 20% of the electorate would agree with her.
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#69 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
If an 8.0 hits San Francisco she might be right.

In the meantime liberals think the eclipse and earthquake are a sign from the God of climate change.

What's it like to make chit up about liberals?
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#70 Posted:
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When he does I’m sure he’ll tell us….
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#71 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
What's it like to make chit up about liberals?


You must have missed “The View”.
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#72 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
You must have missed “The View”.

What's that?
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#73 Posted:
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sunny-hostin-makes-shocking-claim-111134284.html
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#74 Posted:
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Biden wins

Trump gets convicted of a felony

All hell breaks loose...

Riots in Alabama, Wyoming , Arizona and Florida
Mr. Jones Offline
#75 Posted:
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Who the hell is "MJT" ?

U MEAN MTG?
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#76 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Biden wins

Trump gets convicted of a felony

All hell breaks loose...

Riots in Alabama, Wyoming , Arizona and Florida


Meanwhile, deep in the Allegheny Mountains...crickets
ZRX1200 Offline
#77 Posted:
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The last time states tried removing a presidential nominee from their ballot great things happened right?

Abrignac Offline
#78 Posted:
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Looks like I need to revise my prediction made in the OP.

A quote attributed to Obama sums it up pretty good. "Don't underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

Looks like Obama’s prediction may have been a prophetic.
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#79 Posted:
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Trump goes to the convention and withdraws his name from the nomination, saying it is better to have someone who will unite conservatives across the country, for the good of the country. A moderate gets the nomination. That moderate does a check-the-box diversity selection as veep.

Republicans surge ahead in the polls.

Biden, down by 15 points enters the DNC convention and announces for the good of the country, he an Kamala are not accepting the party's nomination, because this election is too important for an aged man and a woman with no clue. A beige to tan, moderate female gets the nomination. Running mate choosen is the dreamy Gavin Newsome.

The Democrats surge in the polls, up 1% to 2% over the Republicans.

The two candidates get on a debate stage, explain their posisitions- what they want to do and their vision for how they will do it.

The toxcity of the election is cut by a third, and we can start figuring out out to start chipping away at our national debt and start talking with, instead of at each other.

Current Odds of the above happening: 1,000,000 to 1.

So there is a chance.

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#80 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Trump goes to the convention and withdraws his name from the nomination, saying it is better to have someone who will unite conservatives across the country, for the good of the country. A moderate gets the nomination. That moderate does a check-the-box diversity selection as veep.

Republicans surge ahead in the polls.

Biden, down by 15 points enters the DNC convention and announces for the good of the country, he an Kamala are not accepting the party's nomination, because this election is too important for an aged man and a woman with no clue. A beige to tan, moderate female gets the nomination. Running mate choosen is the dreamy Gavin Newsome.

The Democrats surge in the polls, up 1% to 2% over the Republicans.

The two candidates get on a debate stage, explain their posisitions- what they want to do and their vision for how they will do it.

The toxcity of the election is cut by a third, and we can start figuring out out to start chipping away at our national debt and start talking with, instead of at each other.

Current Odds of the above happening: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,0000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1.

So there is a chance.



FIFY

On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden announced he wasn’t going to accept the nomination. I’m betting there is behind the scenes maneuvering in that direction going on. The Democratic puppet masters have to realize that short of that Trump gets elected and the Republicans pick up seats in both the Senate and the House.
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#81 Posted:
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8trackdisco wrote:
Trump goes to the convention and withdraws his name from the nomination, saying it is better to have someone who will unite conservatives across the country, for the good of the country. A moderate gets the nomination. That moderate does a check-the-box diversity selection as veep.


If only he can unite them 1/2 as much as his successor has in keeping with his 2020 vows and promises.


Joe Biden has said it is "time to heal" the US in his first speech as president-elect, vowing "not to divide but to unify" the country.
"Let's give each other a chance," he said at an event in Delaware addressing those who did not vote for him.

Biden: 'We have to stop treating our opponents as enemies'

Addressing cheering supporters in a car park in his hometown of Wilmington, Mr Biden said: "I pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide, but to unify; who doesn't see red states and blue states, only sees the United States."

"It's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again," Mr Biden said, without mentioning his rival in the election. "And to make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as enemies."

Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar
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#82 Posted:
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JGKAMIN wrote:
If only he can unite them 1/2 as much as his successor has in keeping with his 2020 vows and promises.


Joe Biden has said it is "time to heal" the US in his first speech as president-elect, vowing "not to divide but to unify" the country.
"Let's give each other a chance," he said at an event in Delaware addressing those who did not vote for him.

Biden: 'We have to stop treating our opponents as enemies'

Addressing cheering supporters in a car park in his hometown of Wilmington, Mr Biden said: "I pledge to be a president who seeks not to divide, but to unify; who doesn't see red states and blue states, only sees the United States."

"It's time to put away the harsh rhetoric, lower the temperature, see each other again, listen to each other again," Mr Biden said, without mentioning his rival in the election. "And to make progress, we have to stop treating our opponents as enemies."

Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar Liar


Do you not feel heeled and united? In that case the IRS will swing by to audit you.

(It will be noted in your records that you are a MAGA semi-fascist)
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#83 Posted:
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I’m predicting a seasonal wave of Covid and targeted lockdowns. Election workers will collect mail-in ballots unsolicited and in person from private residences. Drive in / through voting booths will be required in targeted locations. More literature explaining how to register to vote will be distributed among illegal aliens as they step across the border into USA.
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jeebling wrote:
I’m predicting a seasonal wave of Covid and targeted lockdowns. Election workers will collect mail-in ballots unsolicited and in person from private residences. Drive in / through voting booths will be required in targeted locations. More literature explaining how to register to vote will be distributed among illegal aliens as they step across the border into USA.

You’re a day late and a dollar short, the bird flu has already touched down.Whistle
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#85 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
FIFY

On the other hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if Biden announced he wasn’t going to accept the nomination. I’m betting there is behind the scenes maneuvering in that direction going on. The Democratic puppet masters have to realize that short of that Trump gets elected and the Republicans pick up seats in both the Senate and the House.


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-nominate-biden-virtually-bypass-quirk-ohio-law-2024-05-28/


The DNC is a terrorist organization.

Now you know.

You can vote for Trump or vote Libertarian (LOLOLOLOLOL!!!) or vote for Biden again.
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-nominate-biden-virtually-bypass-quirk-ohio-law-2024-05-28/


The DNC is a terrorist organization.

Now you know.

You can vote for Trump or vote Libertarian (LOLOLOLOLOL!!!) or vote for Biden again.


Didn’t vote for Biden the first time. So it’s impossible to vote for him again.

BTW, Biden hasn’t yet been virtually nominated regardless of the wording of the link. In fact, no date has been set for such an event to take place.

Also had you read carefully what I wrote you would have noticed that I didn’t say it would happen. Instead I said I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened. But then I’d also be surprised if you took the time to carefully read anything before you posted a reply as that would seem to be contrary to what’s normally to be expected.
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#87 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Didn’t vote for Biden the first time. So it’s impossible to vote for him again.



Sure...whatever.
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