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I just spent a 2 hr. drive with my first Warlock (Toro) - it lasted from driveway to driveway! I really enjoyed it. My only issue was that around the halfway mark the wrapper began to flare out a little bit. This may have been due to me ashing outside the window at 75 mph? It was given to me by a vet and I've kept it in my humidor for approx. 3 weeks, so I assume the flared wrapper isn't a 'care' issue (could be wrong, though).

Beyond the wrapper issue, I have a question about the way the Warlock is described on CI.

Here's how CI describes the Warlock (in part): “The smoke is complex and robust, issuing deep woodsy notes, nuts, and a long, rich finish complemented by subtle spices."

My question is this: What does 'complex' mean with regard to cigars?

In my noob opinion, I would have described the first 75% of this cigar as having a flat profile. By that I mean that it tasted/smoked the same, more or less, for the first 3/4 of the smoke. That said, I definitely noticed the "rich finish complemented by subtle spices" at the end.

Anyway, what the heck does "complex" mean? School me...

Thanks

Complex means one or more shifts in flavor and usually implies good flavors. Not many cheap cigars are going to be "complex". Most expensive cigars are not complex. You will catch one soon that starts out Tasting like coffee and then cream and then spice followed by coffee. That would in my mind constitute complexity. I had one yesterday that did just that.

So it's possible that I just can't distinguish between the different flavors yet? Or maybe my setting (driving, 75 mph, dodging traffic, fidgeting with radio, etc.) wasn't real conducive to distinguishing between the different flavors? Or maybe just because CI says it's complex doesn't mean it's complex? Or maybe a little bit of all of that...

You'll know when you have one that's complex, and can sit and do nothing but enjoy it. One of my faves is the TAA 11. NOT complex, great flavor all the way through getting stronger as you go. But really only one flavor.

Try a LFD Colorado oscuro, or a candy cane.

They sold it so mission accomplished.

Complex is a term I use when there is more than one thing going on that make isolating a descriptive term is difficult. But what Bdrizzle said is what I would consider the standard answer.

I've never understood the drive to try to get into "Halmark card" descriptions like "starts out with hint of white pepper with a silky smooth exhale , 1/3 of the way into it, the cedar kicked in but yet creamy, then it blended into a spicy bomb followed with a nuance of smokey oak... the last 1/3 had hints of cinnamon & nutmeg."

Me? I'm a simpleton.

I like smokes that burn good, have a nice draw first and foremost. Nothing ruins a good cigar faster than bad construction.

Then they need to have a coffee & mocha palate with a molasses sweetness. I also favor ones with leathery tones & earthy undertones and a slight nasal of Granny Smith apples.

In the end, I just buy those cigars that sound good in the add copy descriptions

Sooooo....just for the record.....it IS like a good porn scene like I said???

Mr. TG stated " that you would rely on taste sensory perceptions for"

All I wanna know is what kinda porn do you watch and Wtf are you doing while watching it!!"

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I understand now!!

I'll trade ya for some. How about some PIs?