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I was told this cigar was the closest thing to a CC, I had one, and it did have a flavor profile that was similiar to a cuban, but lets face it wasnt a Bolivar RC, just thoughts from others?

That's funny. I recall going through the latest CI catalog while sitting on the toilet a few weeks ago. I recall more than a couple descriptions similar to that. One was attached to a cigar brand whose provenance is nowhere to be found and highly discounted.

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Cuban sandwich lol

Never had one. The hype scares me away. I'll smoke it. I'll enjoy it. But I won't like it compared to the hype and I'll miss out on a good review. Happens every time I smoke a Cuban. Send all Cuban cigars here and I'll keep trying.

I'm sitting on a 10er of these HE's. Had a couple and they just didn't do it for me. Not sure if they weren't quite in my wheelhouse or the cigar needed age. Since I had some, I am going to think the latter and let these guys sit for a couple years. Hopefully they will be smokable (for me) by then. If not, I will likely trade or send to the troops.

Where you get those? Im pretty sure machine rolled is all but gone....

A DE product that's close to a CC - That's laughable!

Yes, none of wish I have ever heard.
http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/brands.aspx

All about marketing. Subterfuge and misdirection. Describe a product as being similar to the forbidden fruit that those being marketed to have never tasted, but covet so badly. They'll think they're smoking something that they are not, but will tell their friends they are.

Similar to Gurkha's strategy of saying their expensive product is the Rolls Royce of the cigar world, yet it's highly discounted. Then pack it half full of floor trimmings and the masses will never know but still proclaim they are the worlds best.

I really like these. Almost smoked through a box of them. I do think they are close to some Cubans but also have there own personality too.

True dat.

I hate the fact that there's no way to determine batch or year or some other determining factor when buying cigars. It should be similar to wine and would be easy to do.

I think there are 2 distinct reasons for reblending. 1 is to produce a less expensive cigar and increase profits. The other is to try to have the cigar smoke and taste the same every year. The houses that reblend for the second reason are reblending for the right reasons.

CC's are CC's. If that's what you want then you have to get them, they're easy enough to get if you want to pay the price for them and can find a good source, none of that bands off crap where they thrash the cigars in the process.
No other tobacco tastes like Cuban tobacco, hell even in the different tobacco growing regions of Cuba there are different flavors and characteristics to those tobaccos.
They're great, they aren't the grail of cigars. No other place will turn out a clone that matches the real thing period.
It's the only place on earth that has that certain perfect mix of soil and climate that makes its products unique, musk leather and spice you have to try to know it.
I went through a spree of years where CC's were the only thing I smoked. Great stuff. There are unique and fantastic tobaccos coming out of all of the other tobacco growing hotspots in the world too.
I know one thing, once the embargo is lifted and the demand skyrockets quality of CC's will suffer for a bit and bad cigars will be turned out until demand can meet supply sanely, they can only make as many as they can make without rushing and sacrificing quality. Avoid the initial boom and good cigars will follow.

+1

Hey, I drink wine from NZ, OZ, CA, Italy, Chile, Austria, S.Africa.

All of these taste just like French wine, right?
And that's what's important, right?

Willie Herrera is going to be in Nashville Friday night. Big reception... should be fun.

I like the Herrera Estelli...............Willie did house blends that are VERY similar and more reasonably priced for a store here in Florida

Good deal

I find these flavorless and bland.

KEVIN!!!!! Wassup, don't see you much round here anymore? How's things in da Great State of FL?

There are no more machine-made cubans. Haven't been for like 10 years or so.

There was a machine made CC I liked that went out of production around 2003. I didn't even know it was machine made until a year or two ago. They did them well.

Snatch em up, cuz they're about ten years old.

Finally tried a Herrera Esteli. Nothing close to any Cuban I've ever had - and I've had just about all of them at one time or another.

This was your typical DE crapola with a pricetag to match. Next...