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HISTORY TEST

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following Multiple Choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history.

Do you remember?

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and
massacred by:
a. Olga Corbitt
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwartzeneger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

3. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year
old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his
wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a U.S. Navy
diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and40

7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted a crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d.. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonny and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


Nope .........I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

Uh, the pattern is that you have an extremely selective redneck-y history going on here. Good to see some good old race-baiting going on here at Cbid.com. Real inspiring.

Professor, you may be right.
I'm admittedly terrible at history.

But the ONLY large-scale incidents of "Terroism" that I can remember against Americans that isn't listed above is the Oklahoma City tragedy, the Unibomber, the Tylenol Scare and the mid-atlantic Sniper case. And other than Timothy McViegh, the only motives were random insanity rather than a political agenda.

Maybe I'm missing something, and maybe the list presented here is indeed selective as you suggest. But I can't think of any others.

It's only "race-baiting" when the facts are purposely skewed. Please show us how these historical references are distorting the truth.
I'm very open minded to see the forest for the trees.

In other words, I do not feel that every Muslim is a terrorist. But I do see a real reason to profile.

Lighten up guys... this was simply cut and pasted from another site... I'm sure we could put together lists for any select group we wish... and I thought Muslim was religion rather than a race, however I believe that the individuals who committed these crimes were not true Muslims but people using the religion to further their own agendas.

As far as profiling, it is used everyday in all kinds of areas. Anyone who has flown recently has been profiled, by a machine. If the metal detector beeps as you go thru you have been selected from a low profile. (If you have metal on your person you may have a weapon). Most of the arguments on profiling really revolve around the level of the profiling.

John

John

I must be missing something here ... the issue seems clear enough to me ... in addressing the very serious issue of a string of what, for the sake of this thread, we'll call crimes has been committed ... a pattern has been observed as to who the perpetrators of this string of crimes seems to be ... are the police justified in looking for people who in the broad general, match the description of the perps? Or do they ignore the facts and assume any and every passerby could be the guilty parties ??? And, what in the hell does the fact that other crimes have also been committed, although by perpetrators of some other description have to do with the first group of crimes ???

If a 50+ white haired sub-6 foot tall Anglo with a beard been identified as the person who knocked over a jewelry store, a bank, a convenience store, a gas station and a fast food joint, should the police be "profiling" dark haired young men in their 20s or would they have a greater probable cause to take a second look at ME ??? Would I be justified in protesting that I was being unfairly singled out while CWilhelmi has not been questioned??? Give me a frickin' break !!! Should the ACLU take up my cause, and point out that there are other crimes which have been committed by a 20-something guy who's somewhat taller than 6' with dark hair and no beard???? I mean, what the blue bloody hell does one have to do with another ???

There's been a rather disturbing incidence of events unfold in which young muslim males are the perps ... in order to prevent further incidents, guys matching that description should damn well be taken a look at ... and if, at the same time, a bunch of gray-bearded guys is found to be carrying out a string of crimes in California, both Rickamaven and myself have little cause for complaint if we are questioned in connection with those crimes ... for investigatores to take any other approach is unreasonable, unfeasible and bound to be unproductive ...

race baiting??? color of hair baiting? that, IMNSHO is nothing less than a king sized load of pure, unadulterated horsesh*t ...

Steve - Your confusing my argument. I'm not saying that racial profiling shouldn't be used, albeit carefully and without personal bias. I'm a realist and I understand the scope of work that our enforcement groups deal with.

What I'm saying is you can put together a stupid list like this for ANY group. But this is a selective list trying to single out one group and painting a case for profiling them in particular.

It seems like more anti-muslim propaghanda that we definitly don't need considering the increase of hate crimes committed on innocent muslims since 9/11.

SteveS

steves you took my name in vain, but you are forgiven. some profiling is necessary.

problem is racial profiling in the usa, with blacks much more likely to be stopped driving a fancy new car then a white, isn't profiling, it's racism. the underlying is
1. blacks can't afford a fancy car
2. that **** has a better car then me, i'll give him a hard time. (if the word offends you, it's the title of one of ****** gregory's books.

Soon after 9/11, a poll questioned American Citizens if profiling should be used.
I don't have the figures, but black Americans had a significantly higher percentage of "Yes" votes to profiling than did white Americans.
I don't know the nature of the polling questions, but it's obvious that many people only feel that profiling is bad when they are the recipient.
Racism and Profiling are two seperate entities. The line between them is a fine one that always gets blurred when well-intended buffoons interfere and cry foul when none has been committed.

JGJAM: GASP! How DARE you post facts!! Don't you know facts are OFFENSIVE and confusing to right-minded folks???

Please do not use the words "study" and "Alabama" in the same sentence...

jgjam...No one can dispute that what you stated is factual(sp). regarding all of these terible things being caused by these %*#@? up people. If profiling saves my life or the life of another innocent bystander than profiling needs to take place. I wonder how some of the people that disagree would feel if it was one of there loved ones who was lost during 9/11. If these same statements or assumptions can be made about many other people or nationalities why is it that I have not seen any. My eyes are open as well as my mind. Lets stop being so politically correct and tell it like it is.

Never ask the PC crowd to back their statements with facts. You may as well say nasty things about their mothers. It's the equivalent to a Liberal Low Blow.

The fact that other groups may have done nasty things does nothing to debunk the validity of FACTS given in the opening post. But don't teach THAT in history nowadays. Somebody may be offended...

The atrocities committed against Blacks in America has been well documented, and specific laws have been passed to prevent even minor infractions. Thankfully, as a country we have addressed these issues. We'll never be able to stop predudice feelings in individuals, but we can prevent groups from acting on them.

Likewise, the Catholic Church is looking to address their past cover-ups, and are taking measures to prevent future occurances.

I've yet to hear of any Muslim group doing the same. In fact, I've heard more appologies from Americans regarding the Muslim Terrorists than I have from the Muslim leaders themselves.

Bringing to light the reality of the threats is not counter-productive, as some suggest. In fact, it is a good start in addressing the problem. We are not fighting individuals. We are dealing with large groups of rogue "freedom fighters" who value their own life less than we do.
Turning a blind eye and stating that "all groups have done bad things" is a very dangerous position to take.

Tailgator, do you believe there is more white-on-black crime in 2003 America than black-on-white crime?

Some statistics on crime victims by race etc.....


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict_v.htm

tailgater

i was told by a friend of mine in 1956, after we were told to leave a restauraunt because my friend was black, we were going back to the base in jersey after a trip to dc, that the only way to stop it is stop teaching kids prejudice and get the schools integrated so the blacks and the whites will get to know each other.

many of us have prejudices, break the cycle by not teaching it to your kids. they are born pure, don't muck it up.

Social values need to be taught at the family level.
If we rely on government and teachers to instill their own values then we are doomed.

Integration caused more harm than good only because it was forced. I need look no further than here in Boston to realize that.

The children are innocent. They notice differences without thinking it's evil.
We could learn a lot from them.

I'm just glad short balding jews aren't out there running amock. I would be forced to profile myself.