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stantheman Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Nov 22 2000, 12:06 AM EST
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I have one of those foodsaver vacuum-packing machines. I was wondering how it would affect cigars packed this way. You would have to put them in a container to keep them from getting crushed, and provide a hole in the container to allow the air to be removed. Even though this is not a TRUE vacuum, would this retain the moisture in the cigars better? Seems like this would create an oversize humitube. Would the lack of oxygen control tobacco beetles? Anyone have any thoughts or have tried this?
Iron Bar Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Nov 22 2000, 6:26 AM EST
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If cigars were meant to be vacuume packed, it would have already been done. Cigars need to breathe man.
usahog Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Nov 22 2000, 1:51 PM EST
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Cigars need to be Smoked and Enjoyed!!! Are you wanting to save them for like the end of the Days or Something?? Why on earth even try to Vacuum pack them??
if you do try it use your Dog Rockets OK.. Smoke one first and remember the Flavor and then in a month or two or six.. pull your Vac Pack out and see if that Gar' still tastes Like **** then you will know if it worked or not without a waste of a Fine Expensive Cigar!!!!
Laterzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Hog
stantheman Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Nov 22 2000, 7:01 PM EST
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Thanks for the input guys. As for a cigar needing to breath, Iron Bar, I know that is often recommended, but what about the Cuban "cabinet" boxed cigars. Aren't they sealed with varnish, and kept unopened for a period of years for aging? As for why I want to "save" my cigars Usahog, don't you lay down any of your smokes to improve them with age? As for the whole vacuum packing thing in the first place, I could well be talking out my @ss. Quite frankly, the reason I had the idea in the first place was to control those b@stard tobacco beetles. They can be a real problem in the Southern climates. Freezing would be an answer, but somehow I kind of cringe at the idea. So thanks again, and I'd like to hear any other opinions.
tailgater Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Nov 22 2000, 8:39 PM EST
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Not certain, but I think the evacuation of air would also constitute the evacuation of moisture. I can't see this as a positive, and unless you know it will kill the beetles it ain't worth it. But don't go by me, I'm still scared to death of freezing quality smokes.
chispa53 Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Nov 23 2000, 5:44 PM EST
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cigars arent meant to be vacuum packed..cigars are meant to be aged and then smoked so that the true enjoyment can be savored..This is one of lifes true pleasure and if u dont smoke them now ....tomorrow is never promised....thats my take this subject...peace
Slimboli Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Nov 23 2000, 6:13 PM EST
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I've got one of those Tilla Foodsavers too ... and have pondered the same question. I know that it creates a vacuum, thus leaving no air for mold or bacteria to grow in. That's why you use it on veggies (even salads) and any other food products, for that matter, and it will prolong the shelf life for quite awhile. It does not take out moisture, only freeze drying will do that. It will not crush your 'gars either, just tightly conform around them. If you put them in in a mason jar (if you have the jar attachment), the air will be removed and your cigars will be unharmed if they are firm ones to begin with. Have you seen what happens to marshmallows? They blow up like balloons ... if you try to seal them 'container in bag', you are not really taking out all the air. Go ahead, and experiment on some 'dog rockets' and see what happens. If you would like, I'll send you a box of Anillo de Oro Tamboril's (minus two)... nasty buggers they turned out to be! I've thought the Foodsaver idea would be great for sending 'care Packages' to friends through the mail. No matter how long the trip, or how hot or cold, they would arrive exactly how I sent them ...
bud451 Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Nov 24 2000, 3:09 AM EST
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I could be wrong on this but a vacumm would prevent aging, just how it preserves food longer. Cigars don't need preservation, they need aging. I don't think it would hurt the cigars, but I don't think it would do them any good either.
wanyburger Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Nov 28 2000, 1:09 PM EST
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no air, no humidity. Bad move.
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