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DSL Connection ??
SteveS Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 01-13-2002
Posts: 8,751
How many of you have a DSL connection, either at home or in your business? Right now, I'm trying to gather a little information on what availability, cost and customer satisfaction are like ...

Do you already have it? ... how much is it where you live? ... or is it even available? ... do you like it? does it work well ? ... you get the idea ...
Penguin13 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-26-2002
Posts: 1,546
I've got DSL because I couldn't get Cable broadband. I live in a suburb of Chicago, I pay $29.99 for the 768/128 package. It's through SBC and I haven't had any outages so far (knock on wood). If you can get Cable, do it. It's more expensive but more than twice as fast. All in all, price is right, speed could be faster but I'm very pleased.

KC
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,591
Steve, I had DSL waaaay back when. Got sick of it dropping. Almost everyday! I finally hung out at the local CO, and asked to talk to an I&R guy. I told him my problem, and low and behold...seems some goober was running up and down the connections with a tone finder and every time he'd run it up and down it would knock me off. After repeated chances and sore knees from begging...I went to cable modem. Never looked back. Same price, but with my current hook up...I'm at near T1 speed! Woo-hoo!
SteveR@CigarBid Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 11-19-2002
Posts: 12,746
I miss my T3 :(

Anyone have the chance to use Internet 2? It's faster than you can imagine.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
Do you already have it? YES
how much is it where you live? $30 at the house and abot $70 for three lines at the office with dedicated ip's.
do you like it? yes
does it work well? yes

i use verizon and had them split the line outside so i do not use filters on the phones and i can use the phone and the computer at the same time. the dedicated ip's at the office never have a problem. the one at the house drops out on some occassions. not as much now as it did several years ago when i first had it installed. most of the time, rebooting the dsl modem gets it back up and running.

a litle over 700kbs down and 125 kbs up. seems fast enough for me. eliminating aol was a good choice too. i don't know why i hung on to it or so long.

from what i have been able to gleam, you use whatever is available where you live. if you have choices, much better.

http://www.dslreports.com/nav/2/lhs you can pick the type of review that you want.
Slimboli Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
SteveS --- go with 'SBC Yahoo DSL' ... and they've got a promo going on right now for $29 a month for the first year ...

http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/dsl/

It's what I switched over to when my other provider went 'belly-up' ... and it's been fast, reliable, and the bes DSL I've has so far (of three) ...

Installation was a breeze ... and hasn't been a bit of trouble since the day I installed it.

1300 down/128 up ... I don't need it any faster than that!
Penguin13 Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 07-26-2002
Posts: 1,546
Slim - 1.3 Down AND you got the $29 a month package!! Is the CO in your backyard :) I wish I could get that speed.

KC
Slimboli Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
I'm not sure where it is ... LOL ... but it's got to be pretty darn close!

They say that if you can get close to 90% of your rated line speed (mine is 1500), everything is perfect, so I guess mine is 'nearly' perfect!

In an ideal world, you should be able to see in your browser download window, during a sustained transfer, a rate equal to your purchased speed, divided by 8 (to get bytes), less 13% (TCP/IP and ATM header overhead).
Slimboli Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
BTW ... the $29 a month (for the first year) is only the 'promo' package, and goes to $49 a month thereafter ...
HockeyDad Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,199
Verizon DSL $30/month.

Run three computers on it through a switched hub
with 100mbit LAN. Never had a problem.
ajeroth Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 07-17-2003
Posts: 1,000
I have DSL here in Germany its a flat rate of 50 Euro a month unlimited. Its the 768/128 version. I never want anything slower, ever again.
Slimboli Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
I have three compters run through mine as well ... two PC's and one laptop ...

... all wireless!

It's very cool to be 'kicking back' out on the Chaise Lounge Chair on my deck, a cool drink, and smoking a cigar ... with my wife's laptop ...

... and to be online harrasing you guy's ... LOL!
usahog Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
I went with DSL a year or so Back... Ameritec DSL they came out hooked it up sent me the Box and all to hook in.. I dealt with them for a couple weeks... never once did it ever Take... they came out 3-4 times Sinked the lines or whatever the F*&k that means... Still no go... I called and Can'l service with them... Now Note: this was also my Phone Bill.. 49.99 a month with there modum... I had already shipped their Modum and software back to them...100.00 Deposit ... I shipped out Overseas... Wife dealt with Ameritec shutting off my Phone ETC ETC ETC... then they wouldn't deal with her and at the time my Mom had Power of Attorney... they wouldn't acknowledge that even... I had her mail me the info... 8 days later I call someone who might have gave a **** from Somewhere's in the Desert...I talked to just about everyone in their office Accept for Mr. Mean... and Finally I got it straightened Out.. I also let them know I was on a Sams Club ATT Card and I want credit for my Phone Card Usage because Normaly I use it to call Family instead of A$$Holes like this!!!
Never got Credit for the card.. But I did get all my Credit and deposit back and they did not charge me for the rehook-up... when everything was Straight then I told the Wife to send the final bill payment to them... and switch our service... I think she Wrote KMA in Bold letters on that Bill... and I never went back to them even with the Special Offers they kept calling to get us to switch back...

We Run Cable now and with the speed on this computer and the Laptop I can't fart faster then I can download stuff from the Internet.. or send emails LMAO!!!!

DSL they can Keep it!!!!!

I'm a Cable Guy!!!! LoL

Hog
jjohnson28 Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
Posts: 7,914
I finally went to cable just last week.Damn,what took me so long!
Slimboli Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
Jimbo ... now all you need is something a little more powerful than that 233 ...

... and you'll be kickin' some serious butt' ... hehehe!
usahog Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
Pssssst JJ... Keith got him a New Puter!!! when ya come in for the LOLH just stuff it in yer Suitcase and head back to the Hills Bro!!! LMAO!!!

Hog
jjohnson28 Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
Posts: 7,914
Slim,the 233 finanly died a while back,actually I could have fixed it but broke down and bought a new puter instead.Currently running on an AMD 2200...Hehehe

Robby Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
I have BellSouth DSL and it works GREAT! Very fast, and it's never down.
sketcha Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 03-26-2003
Posts: 3,238
SteveS,

When you call, ask what your minimum speeds will be for your area. I recently moved and transferred my DSL. I was getting Slim's 1.3M/128K at the old place, but now I'm recording 311K/59K. I still wouldn't trade it for dial-up, but I'm looking forward to finishing the remodel.
Slimboli Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
JJ ... VERY NICE!
tarheel4lyf Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 09-23-2002
Posts: 2,543
had DSL a few years ago. Went to cable, and it's a whole new world!! Get cable if you can.
Slimboli Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
It's really six of one, or half a dozen of the other ...

In reality, if you want a broadband connection at home or in your small office, you have two choices, a cable modem line or a digital subscriber line (DSL), and neither can really deliver Ethernet-like speeds.

Although DSL and cable services are both affordable, several factors affect the quality of your connection, including location (how close you are to your DSL provider) and security (how much the service opens your computer to hackers).

Because DSL is relatively new, there's a lot of misinformation surrounding this technology.

One important thing to consider with DSL ... except for a lucky few customers, DSL isn't as fast as some companies imply. Electromagnetic noise (also called crosstalk) generated by other nearby electronic devices can adversely affect DSL performance. More importantly, your distance from a telco's special switching facility, called a central office (CO), directly affects your DSL connection. The further you are from a CO, the slower your connection. And, of course, no matter how fast your connection, you're subject to traffic jams once you get on the Web. Note, too, that most DSL service is asymmetric--the download speed is faster than the upload speed. For example, most starter DSL accounts offer 384-kbps download/128-kbps upload access.

Finally, there's security. Because DSL keeps your computer constantly connected to the Internet, you may end up with a static (unchanging) IP address -- a unique number that identifies your computer on the Internet. Traditional dial-up services randomly assign you a new IP address every time you log on, so no one can find you at the same place twice. With an always-on Internet connection like DSL, your computer is vulnerable to hackers who can gain access to your files, drop viruses on your hard drive, or worse.

Before you sign up for DSL, ask whether your potential provider offers any security measures. Many DSL providers will assign you a dynamic (constantly changing) IP address if you request it. For additional security, some companies, EarthLink, for example, include personal firewall software for the Mac and PC as part of the deal. But chances are you'll have to buy antivirus and firewall software on your own to keep hackers at bay.

With Cable ... keep in mind that you'll probably never get data transfer rates even close to cable's theoretical 27 mbps, either. For a number of reasons, connection speeds range from 500 kbps to 2 mbps. One big factor is that you share that cable line with other local customers. If you're the only person in your neighborhood online via cable, you may well get that 2 mbps. But as each person logs on, your access speed is divvied up. If one of your cosurfers starts downloading mammoth files, your performance will degrade further.

Ask your cable provider how many other PCs share your cable connection and what will be the fastest connection speeds you're likely to get. And find out if the cable provider guarantees minimum upload/download speeds.

Also, because you share your cable connection with the people on your block, it's easy for nosy neighbors to peek at your computer files. One thing you can do right away is disable Windows' file- and print-sharing features. In Windows 95/98, open the Network control panel, click the File And Print Sharing button, and uncheck the two boxes in the subsequent dialog box. In Windows 2000, select Start, Settings, and then Network and Dial-up Connections. Right-click your cable connection, choose Properties, and in the General tab, uncheck the File And Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks box.

The bottom line, is there are just about as many reasons to choose DSL as there are to choose cable ... and cost is something that should be taken into consideration.


usahog Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
Slim... you still got your ICQ???

I got some footage for ya.. I'll be on mine ICQ @ 6pm my time tonight... if your on I'll send ya a few files!!!

Hog
cwilhelmi Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 07-24-2001
Posts: 2,739
Slim - I need to dispell part of your cable story. The only time "sharing" becomes a problem is when the cable provider is a moron and doesn't build there nodes at the proper size. Also, cable in the bay has twice the upload speed of DSL at the same "regular" price, and if you do any work from home you'll know how valuable this is!!

A little note that I can't expand upon, within 6 months there will be a very clear difference between cable and DSL.
Slimboli Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
cwilhelmi --- maybe you know more about it than I do ... I just 'gleaned' that information from c/net, and it was a pretty old study ... so I'm sure the technology has improved. It seems to me that there isn't anyting recent on it ...

... but, regardless, I still have some reservations about sharing bandwidth with my neighborhood ...
Robby Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
Cable sux...
cwilhelmi Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 07-24-2001
Posts: 2,739
Slim - You share bandwidth with the rest of the people in your CO. It's the same thing, but DSL has done such a great job marketing the BS that people actually think it's true...
Robby Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
cable bad, DSL GOOD!
usahog Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
Hell I wont part with my Cable.. no way no How!!!!

and IMO DSL Sucks... they never could get it hook in here right and the company who dealt it Sucks!!!

Robby WTF is Sinc'ing Lines??? because they said the radio Station being so close to my phone lines the DSL was getting bled off??? I know with the cable I don't hear Country Music LOL.... I do on my phone though!!!

Hog
Robby Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
Cable Guy!!!!!
sherpamills Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 01-26-2001
Posts: 147
we have sprint dsl it has been down so many times i have lost count. every time we have a little thunder storm it goes down.we live in south west florida and get a thunder storm almost every day. we had cable before we moved, no problems. we do not have a choice as we live in a retirement community with their own cable system.
Robby Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 10-30-2002
Posts: 5,067
your problem is with your provider, not the technology. It's like some folks have cable that goes out if it rains. Or their ISP portion of the cable service is unreliable or slow. DSL is good proven technology as is cable. But there will be horror stories on both sides of the isle :-) But DSL RULES!
Slimboli Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
usahog --- your bad experience doesn't make all DSL providers bad ...

... just a thought, bro ...
bigjeff99 Offline
#34 Posted:
Joined: 10-29-2002
Posts: 175
SteveS, this may help you out a little more:

http://www.dslreports.com/
sumguy Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 12-23-2002
Posts: 65
DSL is great. Cable is better. Modem completely unaccptable once you get a taste of higher speed. No probs with service plus no busy signal when people call. It's worth the extra 50cents-$1 a day easy. I use Verizon.
usahog Offline
#36 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
thats true Slim... Just Ameritec in my Book, therefor Sucks!!! LoL

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#37 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
whatever happened to penny post cards? or in my case the guy on horse back delivering the mail.

isn't spam the same as occupant?
tarheel4lyf Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 09-23-2002
Posts: 2,543
Hog- shoot me your ICQ number.......
usahog Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
Jason... you got dsl or cable??
Email sent...

Hog
usahog Offline
#40 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
umm well... the Only email I got on ya is the Kearsarge navy email??? drop me an email Bro...

usahog
at
hotmail
dot
com

Thanks
Hog
usahog Offline
#41 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
Ok I found ya... email sent Bro!!!

Hog
tarheel4lyf Offline
#42 Posted:
Joined: 09-23-2002
Posts: 2,543
I have cable......didn't get any email....email sent to you.....
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