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Scary Warning From Scottish Professor in 1787 !
Democracy Progressing Through the Sequence?

A warning from Scots Historian Professor Alexander Tyler, circa 1787

Re: The Fall of the Athenian Republic.


"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse (generous gifts) from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship." "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence. From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance, from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back into bondage."

Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University of Law, St.Paul, MN passed on that gem and provides the following 2000 election facts for consideration:

Population of counties won by Gore 127 million, won by Bush 143 million.

Sq.miles of country won by Gore 580,000, won by Bush 2,427,000.

States won by Gore 19, by Bush 29.

Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore 13.2 by Bush 2.1 (not a typo).

Professor Olson adds, "And may I add that the map of the territory Bush won was (mostly) the land owned by the people of this great country. Not the citizens living in cities owned by the government and living off the government....

Below is a reply from my friend, George, who lives in California. He has lived in CA for many years. We have never met but have becomes good "online" friends. Maybe he has something here:

Jane: I believe we are between apathy and dependence. We, America, needs a strong leader with the statesmanship we have lacked for many years of our great country's life.

Also I came across the following and have given my thoughts as to it's meaning.

Subject: From the Islamic Bible The following verse is from the Quran, (the Islamic Bible) Quran ( 9:11) -- For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.
(Note the verse number!)

I believe it is the "Screeching Eagles" the 101st Air borne Division.

George

The Koran story is bogus. See http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/quran.asp

Oh here we go again... John, you need to soft pedal that race bating a bit. You're starting to sound like Al Sharpton.

Robby, it is not race baiting. What do you think is meant by 'city people who are dependent on government'?

What images are supposed to come to mind?

I am a white american, raised in the same culture as you and every other white person, so I know the code words and the assumed images. My point is that a hell of a lot of poor white people in rural america are on welfare, dependent on the government. So is pretty much every rancher and farmer.

That said, this was only one aspect of my remarks.

John

Are you implying that city dwellers are mostly contributors to and non-city denizens are mostly beneficiaries of, “the government largess?”

John, I hear them pissing and moaning on TV about "gentrification" and what a THREAT that is to "people of color"... So which is it? Get out? Or come in?

People focus entirely too much on the racial divide. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I watch the news every night. Our local stations run at least one, and sometimes more "racially motivated" stories EACH DAY! It's a drone, a constant undertone; it's like "white noise" (pardon the pun). Many people are focused on this to the exclusion of all else! The obsess over it! With that kind of mantra, there is no way peace will ever be achieved, only unrest, discontent, anger, and hatred... When they were commemorating the place where Dr. Martin Luther King made his famous "I have a dream" speech, the race baiters were out there, screaming at the crowd of several hundred... "You've become complacent! You have to get out there and stir things up!!"

I saw it in the news clip. “get out there and stir things up!” i.e., March! Protest! Why not, “educate yourselves?” “work hard, work your way up!” “save!” “stay in school!” I heard NONE of that! Just “get out there and stir things up!!”

It’s old, it’s tired, it’s failed, and by beating the drum, you’re right there with them…

Main Entry: gen·tri·fi·ca·tion
Pronunciation: "jen-tr&-f&-'kA-sh&n
Function: noun
Date: 1964
: the process of renewal and rebuilding accompanying the influx of middle-class or affluent people into deteriorating areas that often displaces earlier usually poorer residents

Do you have to ask the question? It's known... And obviously you're trying to bait me into saying that because the same can be said for the outcome of Gore vs Bush. But there are a lot of the other "facts" which they choose not to omit in the little propaganda piece...

Good for whom? The minority group that voted for Bush? Would you say that it worked out poorly if the tables were turned? It's all relative, just like Georgia... Sorry Robby, had to throw in some humor...

Of course there are more white people on welfare than any other race--there are more white people in the country. The important statistic is what percentage of a given population is on welfare.