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Thanks for the M.R.E.'s
usahog Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
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Pentagon cost savings, privatization resulted in OIF logistics failures
OP-ED COLUMNIST
Thanks for the M.R.E.'s
By PAUL KRUGMAN
A few days ago I talked to a soldier just back from Iraq. He'd been in a relatively calm area; his main complaint was about food. Four months after the fall of Baghdad, his unit was still eating the dreaded M.R.E.'s: meals ready to eat. When Italian troops moved into the area, their food was "way
more realistic" - and American troops were soon trading whatever they could for some of that Italian food. Other stories are far worse. Letters published in Stars and Stripes and e-mail published on the Web site of Col. David Hackworth (a decorated
veteran and Pentagon critic) describe shortages of water. One writer reported that in his unit, "each soldier is limited to two 1.5-liter bottles a day," and that inadequate water rations were leading to "heat
casualties." An American soldier died of heat stroke on Saturday; are poor supply and living conditions one reason why U.S. troops in Iraq are suffering such a high rate of noncombat deaths?
The U.S. military has always had superb logistics. What happened? The answer is a mix of penny-pinching and privatization - which makes our soldiers' discomfort a symptom of something more general.
Colonel Hackworth blames "dilettantes in the Pentagon" who "thought they could run a war and an occupation on the cheap." But the cheapness isn't restricted to Iraq. In general, the "support our troops" crowd draws the line when that support might actually cost something.
The usually conservative Army Times has run blistering editorials on this subject. Its June 30 blast, titled "Nothing but Lip Service," begins: "In
recent months, President Bush and the Republican-controlled Congress have missed no opportunity to heap richly deserved praise on the military. But talk is cheap - and getting cheaper by the day, judging from the nickel-and-dime treatment the troops are getting lately." The article goes on to detail a series of promises broken and benefits cut.
Military corner-cutting is part of a broader picture of
penny-wise-pound-foolish government. When it comes to tax cuts or subsidies to powerful interest groups, money is no object. But elsewhere, including homeland security, small-government ideology reigns. The Bush
administration has been unwilling to spend enough on any aspect of homeland security, whether it's providing firefighters and police officers
with radios or protecting the nation's ports. The decision to pull air marshals off some flights to save on hotel bills - reversed when the public heard about it - was simply a sound-bite-worthy example. (Air
marshals have told MSNBC.com that a "witch hunt" is now under way at the Transportation Security Administration, and that those who reveal cost-cutting measures to the media are being threatened with the Patriot Act.) There's also another element in the Iraq logistical snafu: privatization.
The U.S. military has shifted many tasks traditionally performed by soldiers into the hands of such private contractors as Kellogg Brown & Root, the Halliburton subsidiary. The Iraq war and its aftermath gave this
privatized system its first major test in combat - and the system failed. According to the Newhouse News Service, "U.S. troops in Iraq suffered through months of unnecessarily poor living conditions because some
civilian contractors hired by the Army for logistics support failed to show up." Not surprisingly, civilian contractors - and their insurance companies - get spooked by war zones. The Financial Times reports that the dismal performance of contractors in Iraq has raised strong concerns about what would happen in a war against a serious opponent, like North Korea.
Military privatization, like military penny-pinching, is part of a pattern. Both for ideological reasons and, one suspects, because of the patronage involved, the people now running the country seem determined to
have public services provided by private corporations, no matter what the circumstances. For example, you may recall that in the weeks after 9/11 the Bush administration and its Congressional allies fought tooth and nail to leave airport screening in the hands of private security companies, giving in only in the face of overwhelming public pressure. In Iraq,
reports The Baltimore Sun, "the Bush administration continues to use American corporations to perform work that United Nations agencies and nonprofit aid groups can do more cheaply." In short, the logistical mess in Iraq isn't an isolated case of poor planning and mismanagement: it's telling us what's wrong with our current philosophy of government.

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xibbumbero Offline
#2 Posted:
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Iffin they can't give our troops first class services, then send em home and replace them with the US congress and all the Generals. Bet that would fix it. X
usahog Offline
#3 Posted:
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ya know X I think we both Finally agree on something LoL


Hog
Homebrew Offline
#4 Posted:
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What x said, but add Bush and Chaney.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
jjohnson28 Offline
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Intel Offline
#6 Posted:
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMM ham slice with bbq sauce, and accessory packet B. Cookie Bar mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
tonester666 Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 05-07-2003
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I prefer the omelette or the chicken a la king. And that lovely bread.
rayder1 Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 06-02-2002
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The last person you will hear complain about conditions in a war zone is a soldier. Now that he has been heard from...it is time to do something or get the hell out.
tarheel4lyf Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 09-23-2002
Posts: 2,543
MRE's have come a long way. When we dropped off our Marines in NC, they gave us case of them. They are pretty good, actually.
Cigarick Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-28-2002
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We all know what Davis spent his surplus on. I'm wondering what else Bush spent HIS on.
arbn2/505 Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 08-16-2002
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I always liked the Beef Stew and the freeze dried peaches.
rayder1 Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 06-02-2002
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I've had to live off them for a couple weeks while working a special op detail. (Marijuana eradication).
We were forced to stay away from civilization while in the backwoods.

I though they were pretty damn good. One MRE lasted most of the day.

The fruit drink powder sucked. I still have a stash of little tabasco bottles.

nonetheless, there is no excuse for those guys to be stuck on an MRE diet for so long after we have established steady supply lines. Those things were meant for short term use.
rayder1 Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 06-02-2002
Posts: 2,226
A typical daily ration for a soldier stationed at Fort Macon during the civil war looked like this (source park signage):


Pork or Bacon, three fourths pound, or Fresh or Salt Beef, one pound four ounces.
Soft bread or Flour, eighteen ounces, or Hard Bread (Hardtack), twelve ounces, or Corn Meal, one pound four ounces.
Beans or Peas, 2.56 ounces, or Rice, 1.6 ounces, or in lieu thereof twice a week 1.5 ounces Desiccated Potatoes and one ounce Desiccated Mixed Vegetables.
Coffee, 1.6 ounces, or Tea, 0.24 ounces.
Sugar, 2.4 ounces.
Vinegar, 1.28 ounces
Salt, 0.64 ounces
Pepper, 0.04 ounces,
Sperm Candles, 0.16 ounces, or Adamantine Candles, 0.2 ounces, or Tallow Candles, 0.24 ounces.
Soap, 0.64 ounces.

(I'm still wondering about the sperm candles).
dz130 Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 08-22-2003
Posts: 781
I think they meant Sperm Whale candles.
usahog Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
I love eatin MRE's
I don't touch the Chicken Ala King.. we had a bad lot of them in Denmark in 91 and I lost it.. I was tossing Oats all the way across the flightline!!!

the new MRE Menu Debuts:
http://www.military.com/MilitaryReport/?file=MR_MRE_090803&ESRC=mr.nl

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