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Cigar Mfg.vs. P. Diddy
GTofMurphy Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 05-16-2002
Posts: 341
Cigar maker files suit vs. P. Diddy

Company says rap master revealed rolling technique in video

ASSOCIATED PRESS

MIAMI, Sept. 16 — Sean “P. Diddy” Combs’ love of cigars has put him in a cloud of legal trouble. A boutique cigar maker claims a cameraman trespassed at its Miami factory and filmed its “secret process” in June, and the footage wound up in Combs’ music video for the movie “Bad Boys II,” starring Will Smith and Martin Lawrence.

THE LAWSUIT, WHICH Moore & Bode Cigars filed earlier this month in Miami-Dade Circuit Court, seeks at least $15,000 in damages from the rapper-producer, Bad Boys Entertainment Inc. and the unknown camera operator.
The office of the company’s attorney said Monday he was out of the office until late this week.
Dan Klores, a spokesman for Combs, said, “We’ll investigate and gather all the accurate information before we make any comment publicly.”
The lawsuit claims the company’s “unique method of rolling the cigars” was taped for the “Shake Ya Tailfeather” video while the owners were out, after the cameraman was told to leave and without company permission.



My only questions are; Who is Moore & Bode Cigars? What cigars do they make? Why is the why they roll a cigar so secret?
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RDC Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-21-2000
Posts: 5,874
It's the Ganga they put in for P-Diddy and his homies!
RDC Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-21-2000
Posts: 5,874
Ganja?
Gonja?
????

I give up. I guess I am not hip enough.
redsquid Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 12-15-2002
Posts: 1,286
I've not had them. The word is that they are an ultra-premium, but ultra-mild cigar. Secret rolling technique? Sounds like PR to justify their high prices. The video probably reveals that they're rolled like every other cigar. Probably wouldn't take many free samples from MB to reveal to me what a 'Bad Boy' P-Daddy (whatever) was though.
cruiser Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 06-15-2001
Posts: 739
A little cigar store in little havana miami famous for the flamboyan and miami brand and also for there Big Brass size I smoke them all the time not cheap , however they are not sandwich rolled there are about 3 rollers in the store, I hope they win the lawsuit.Amen
cruiser Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 06-15-2001
Posts: 739
By the way Moore& Bode does not need advertising they only can roll a couple hundert a day,and they have followers Movie Stars etc. who pay them by 10 boxes
its a extremely good smelling gar.
GTofMurphy Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 05-16-2002
Posts: 341
I found the secret in Cigar Nexus interview with the owner. "We are trying to be more circular" That is some secret method! I bet they will win that lawsuit
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See below:

SS: In addition to the blending, you also use a rather unique process in the rolling of the cigars, or actually in the bunching of the filler; I can tell when I look at the foot, I can almost see like tubes of tobacco going through the cigar.
SM: Exactly. Our cigars are not bunched, nor do we use a book method or book form. What we basically do is tube-roll each one of our leaves. As a result, it slows the manufacturing down.

SS: Explain the "tube-roll", because a lot of people might not be familiar with that.

SM: Essentially, we take each filler tobacco leaf and form it into a tube shape.

SS: Isn't it a traditional Cuban-style of making the bunch?

SM: Well, there is a difference. In Cuba they do a form of tubing, but it's been our observation, based on the cigar-makers who have come from Cuba and that we've had knowledge of, when asked to demonstrate their method they tend to do flat tubing. Flat tubing puts the tobacco leaf into somewhat of a circle, but when incorporated into the filler, it tends to flatten. It's analogous to the difference between a plastic straw that is round and maintains its shape and a paper straw that tends to collapse when it gets wet. We are trying to be more circular.
JustDanD Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 02-27-2003
Posts: 748
That's circular logic. Anyone know anyone who ever tried one?
redsquid Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 12-15-2002
Posts: 1,286
If nothing else, I'll give 'em credit for keeping the labor stateside. I wonder if the CMIU still exists.
raven01 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-14-2003
Posts: 215
I just went to their web site.They are pretty high priced.But I am thinking about it.Has anyone smoked one of them?
Steve*R Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 07-23-2001
Posts: 1,858
I've had many M&B cigars. For $6.00 to $8.00 each, I think they are a bit pricey in today's competitive environment. As noted in a post above, the M&B Miami is a very mild cigar, along the lines of mid-boom Macanudos. The newer line, the Flamboyan, is fuller bodied, but still to the mild side of medium.

Construction is excellent with usually perfect draw.
pajama94us Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 03-09-2003
Posts: 102
I smoke them all the time. They have a unique taste to them.This is due to them using tobacco from different sourceother than the typical Dominican, Nic, Honduran etc. I've also visited their factory in Little Havana, right around the corner from Padron & El Credito. Sat and smoked a #10 with Robert Bode, who is a great guy. He told me that they are planning to move their manufacturing to India because of the high cost of producing cigars in the US.
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