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Well, would it be "OK" if Arnie groped a German woman that was a Nazi sympathizer?

Just my twisted mind...

Marla

As for Hitler...

He was one of the most polished, well-practiced public speakers in history. He was absolutely mesmerizing, which accounts in part for his rise to power. Sure, he deserves an eternity of being anally raped with barbed wire, but the man had some undeniable expertise and talent. His tools were sharp.

Chris,

Noted as obvious.

Saying we haven't found the WoMD (yet) is NOT the same thing as saying there are none to be found ...

the fact IS, Iraq DID have quite a little arsenal of WsOMD ... that really isn't in question ... hell, they've actually USED some ... it's no secret that they got some from Russia, got some from France and even got some from the US at one point back when we were providing support to help them fight Iran ...

Let's face it ... how tough could it be to hide a cache of arms of any type in a rugged country the size of California ???

Robby, how dare you make fun of trees! Some of them are my relatives. You don't even know them so you have no right talking about them. Keep the tree talking to yourself...we don't want to hear anymore!

LOL at E-Chick. X

Oh, I almost forgot:

Kudos for hating the yanks.

There just may be hope for you yet !

I thought it was everyone hates a whiner.... or is it weiner.... whatever.

"Seems a bad week for republicans..."

**I'm a Republican and feel pretty good!

"No weapons of mass destruction. Still. Still. Still."

**That doesnt mean they wont be found. Yet. Yet. Yet.

"53% of Americans think the cost of the War in Iraq was 'not worth it.' (CNN/Gallup)"

**CNN is left wing based, so isnt credible, in my opinion.

"The Administration is looking VERY suspicious on this whole CIA agent leak thing. No independent prosecutor? Uh, sure, we can trust Ashcroft...just not with our constitutional rights?"

**Looking very suspicious isnt proof of ANYTHING, just speculation. Also, Ashcroft is a good man.

"Schwarzenegger admires Hitler and sexually harasses women. Hey, if you crucified Clinton for it, be consistent! At least Bill didn't think Hitler was a hero."

**Schwarzeneggers womanizing is news that is 'old as dirt', in CA this means nothing, its 'Hollywood Stuff'. At least Arnold admitted it and apologized for it. Clinton cost the taxpayers MILLIONS investigating his womanizing, and got caught lying about it.

**Its only hearsay, that Arnold admires Hitler. This came from an 'unpublished' book...yea right, thats proof...

"Limbaugh is exposed as a pill-popping racist. You had to see that one coming! Good to see his deranged rants were rooted in drug abuse."

**The pill popping hasnt been proven yet, it may or may not be true. I'll wait for the investigation to end before making any conclusions. So should you.

**You will call someone a racist without a shred of proof. Thats been a fact on these boards, you have no credibility on this matter. You are paranoid about racism.

"The Yankees lost the opener to the Twins in the Bronx (OK, so that one is just gratuitous...I just despise the Yankees)."

**I dont like the Yankees either, but I'd rather see the Giants play them in the World Series.

"A Twins-Cubs World Series would just cap off a fabulous month. I have no doubts that these trends will continue. The Cubs in the World Series? Well, that is a 'to see' proposition..."

**The Giants will knock off the Cubs after the Marlins. The World Series I'm hoping for is the Yanks vs Giants. But since the Twins have won the first two games, I dont think the Yankees can beat the Twins 3 games in a row.

Mag

Mag

On the other post you said,

"But having your way with an intern, in the Oval Office, shows total disrespect for the Presidency, and that ISNT A MISTAKE!"

So having a consensual affair with a woman is bad, but sexually harrasing and groping women is OK. Or is it that it's OK for GOPs to cheat on their wives, but not Dems. Quite convenient for you GOPs, now I wonder why everyone isn't a republican...

it may not make a difference, you're right...

But you sound very hypocritical, and you were the one spoutng off how the DLs for illegal immigrants was so wrong because they were breaking the LAW by being here. In fact you said,

"We MUST respect and enforce the laws in place, or why have them?"

Last I checked we had laws against unwanted groping and harrasment. Quite convenient, and VERY hypocritical...

Also Arnold never lied IN COURT!!!!

Mag

woo hoo, you don't seem to care about illegal acts vs. legal ones so what's your point?

Oh, I forgot and I think you did too, that I said a few posts back, that if he was charged and convicted of these acts to put him in jail. What more do you want me to say?

Mag

JD, it wasnt thanks to 'Pudge'. It was thanks to Jose Cruz's error. If that wouldnt have happened Rodriguez wouldnt have even got to the plate.

Mag

Back to the Terminator...I admit I don't know much about politics, but I thought sexual (as well as financial) improprieties were qualifications for political leadership. When did we start expecting our politicians to be good people?

Here's the way it will go. A woman from Iraq will press charge against Ahhhnold for gropping her. During the trial the women will testify that not only did Ahhhnold gropp her but there are in fact WMD buried in Iraq and that she is just thrilled to death that Florida Marlins won the world series. Ahhhnold will be convicted but before they can put the cuffs on him he signs a document and pardons himself. JonR

JonR - LMAO!!

Chris,
Don't be so quick to dismiss slick willies fun and games as "consentual".
True, the blewinski parade was consentual. Illegal sex? No. Perjury? Yes.

But billies adventures didn't begin or end with his fat intern. Don't forget about pre-Commander in Chief groping/sexual harrassment of Paula Jones.
And what about Kathleen Wiley? While in the White House.

Hey, if I were married to Hillary, I'd cheat as well. But if I cheated AT WORK I'd get fired.
And if I was ever questioned about it while under oath (although extremely unlikely) I'd have to tell the truth.

Arnies escapades were not severe enough to warrent charges when it happened, so why are we talking about it now?

Chris did you read my post that said "if he was charged and convicted of these acts to put him in jail."

What more do you want me to say about that? You cant do anything to someone if the accusers never press charges and testify under oath. There IS a good chance that he did do what these women said. But the timing stinks. And I believe that others will think so too.

And remember, you are innocent until proven guilty. Yes, even if it does seem like its something he would do.

But, why are these women coming out one week before the election? Sounds to me like some Dems had this saved up for the right moment. All six women come out on the same week? yea right. All six from a long time ago, no evidence to speak of. Arnold hasnt spoken about these women specifically that I know of, has he?

Just seems like this election has Democrats going for nothing but ways to discredit their opponents. The Republican candidates are sticking with issues the state is having problems with. Republicans havent used any nasty tactics like the media/Dems are doing.

Why arent any of the Dem/Lib posters on these boards speaking of state issues, and how Davis is going to fix them. I challenge even one of you reading this to give us Republicans a reason to keep Davis in office. Without using personal attacks on a candidate to do it.

How is Davis going to fix workers comp, so companies quit leaving the state? What about schools, and the low test scores highschool students get in this state. How about the border? The Illegals and this drivers license bullcrap. The tripling of auto registration fees. High energy costs. Gasoline cost more in this state than any other state, why? Property taxes. There are more, but this enough.

Why hasnt Davis addressed even one of the issues I listed? Its because he doesnt want you to know that he doesnt have a plan, other than probaby raising taxes. Then throwing more of our money away.

I just saw on Fox a Democratic Stratigist that said Davis uses 'brass knuckle tactics' and that he is known for 'dirty campaining' THIS WAS A DEM THAT SAID THIS.

Mag

Well at least you tried. Some of your points are valid but you are incorrect about CA's problems. They are bigger than most of the other states. To start I believe the national unemployment is 6%, CA is 10%.

There may not be enough time to fix everything in one shortened term. But the sooner things start to change the better. And I'm figuring that unless there is a scandle or very bad decisions made by the winner of this election, this person will get another term to finish what gets started.

Next you respond like a typical Dem, even though you say you are independant. Why not cut spending, instead of raising taxes? You say it would fix things, but its unpopular. Thats not going to work.

Since Davis took office, revenue to the state increased by more than 20%. Spending has gone up more than that. That doesnt work.

Also, you already stated on another thread about the 70 million. I guess you dont realize the size of this states problems. 70 million is a drop in the bucket for this state.

EVERYDAY this state spends 27 million dollars more than it takes in. So 3 days of this is 81 million in the hole!!!!! So dont keep acting like 70 million is going to hurt this state. We need spending cuts!!!

Arnold says that the first step he will take is to open the books and start cutting the fat. Do you think we need to give grants for $100,000 here $250,000 there or more? Youve heard about crazy studies for information like what bugs do, or how lesbians do this or that. You get my drift. That crap has got to stop. And there is a lot of that. This is just one example.

Davis caused the problems, what makes you think he can fix them. Especially since he hasnt given us even one plan or idea to go on. All he's done is rip the candidates, mainly Arnold.

I cant remember what type of businesses Arnold had run. But I do remember that what was reported is that he has been very successful. Right now the biggest problems are financial. He has business experience. He will surround himself with knowledgable people to handle other issues.

Remember his family is into politics(the Kennedy's). Dont you think that he will have access to very qualified people to delegate segments of government tasks to? Governors govern, they dont do it all alone. With his popularity and fame he will find ways to have the right people around him.

Last, you said again "he admitted it". OK he did, now what? You tell me what, since you dont like my reasoning. What do you want him to do? Answer this question please.

Mag

In the debate Arnold said he wasn't going to cut spending maybe I misinterpreted him, but that's what I remember him saying, hence why I asked how's it possible. The more I think about it though there’s no way he’s that stupid... And don't give me that typical Dem crap; I said the only way to do it quickly would be to substantially raise taxes, which I then essentially said would be stupid.

How much worthless spending do you think there is to cut? If you honestly think there's enough by simply cutting “extra” spending then you're crazy, especially when Arnold wants to roll back some taxes as well. It’s going to come out of education and a lot of other areas that are necessary if it’s going to happen quickly, and that’s what really scares me.

And if 70 million is so small then why mention $100,000 studies and $250,000 lesbian grants, these are markedly smaller than the 70 million.

As far as his businesses and contacts, that's quite a stretch. He has no applicable experience, and the Rebs don’t want to admit it because they know it’s true.



My question is how can you support him if he's just as much of a sleaze? That's why I was saying you were being hypocritical, you're letting go the same types of things that you've brought up over and over, but since it's a GOP now it's all fine and dandy. Morals are morals, no matter who the candidate is. And you still didn’t answer my question…

Your Question - What should he do? He should step down and endorse McClintock, that would be the classy thing to do. McClintock won the debate by a huge margin because he knows what he’s talking about and has a good plan. Even though I don't agree with McClintock's stand on abortion, I think he's the best candidate, and the only one that can really help CA.

Tailgater,

If you do some searching, you'll find that Rush has a long history of racist remarks. Two stand out: saying black and hispanic voters were not 'smart enough' to use voting machines in Florida, and telling a black caller to 'take that bone out of your nose and call me back.' There are many more. This is neither new nor a surprise coming from Rush.

So I wasn't jumping the gun here. There is a lot of history on this issue.

John

Professor, the fact that Iraq had WMD is not in question. What do you think happened to them?

Then why did it take Blix that long and that much money to come to THAT conclusion?

You, me...private...yeah right!

Blather on "Professor"!