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Life is Good!!!!
usahog Offline
#1 Posted:
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An atheist professor was teaching a college
class and he told the class that he was going
to prove that there was not a God.
He said, "God if you are real, then I want you
to knock me off this platform. I'll give you 15 minutes!" Ten minutes went by. He kept taunting God,
saying, "Here I am God, I'm still waiting"
He got down to the last couple of minutes and a
BIG 240-pound football player happened to walk by
the door and heard what the professor was saying.
The football player walked in the classroom and in
the last minute, he walked up, hit the professor full force, and sent him flying off the platform.
The professor got up, obviously shaken and said,
"Where did you come from, and why did you do that?"
The football player replied, "God was busy; He sent me!"
Life is good...

Hog
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
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The Lord works in mysterious ways.

Reminds me of a verse.

Be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Ephesians 6:10
Tobasco Offline
#3 Posted:
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Great post Hog! Thanks for sharing.

Mag
Cigarick Offline
#4 Posted:
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Violence proves the existence of God. Now THAT'S one I never thought I'd hear.
Robby Offline
#5 Posted:
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Really!!?? Ever read the bible? It's FILLED with violence!
SwimNaked Offline
#6 Posted:
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This isn't true, but entertaining nonetheless:

There was a professor of philosophy there who was a deeply committed atheist. His primary goal for one required class was to spend the entire semester attempting to prove that God couldn't exist. His students were always afraid to argue with him because of his impeccable logic. For twenty years, he had taught this class and no one had ever had the courage to go against him. Sure, some had argued in class at times, but no one had ever 'really gone against him' (you'll see what I mean later). Nobody would go against him because he had a reputation. At the end of every semester, on the last day, he would say to his class of 300 students, "If there anyone here who still believes in Jesus, stand up!" In twenty years, no one had ever stood up. They knew what he was going to do next.

He would say, "because anyone who does believe in God is a fool. If God existed, he could stop this piece of chalk from hitting the ground and breaking. Such a simple task to prove that he is God, and yet he can't do it." and every year, he would drop the chalk onto the tile floor of the classroom and it would shatter into a hundred pieces. All of the students could do nothing but stop and stare. Most of the students were convinced that God couldn't exist. Certainly, a number of Christians had slipped through, but for 20 years, they had been too afraid to stand up.

Well, a few years ago, there was a freshman who happened to get enrolled in the class. He was a Christian, and had heard the stories about this professor. He had to take the class because it was one of the required classes for his major, and he was afraid. But for 3 months that semester, he prayed every morning that he would have the courage to stand up no matter what the professor said or what the class thought. Nothing they said or did could ever shatter his faith, he hoped.

Finally the day came. The professor said, "If there is anyone here who still believes in God, stand up!" The professor and the class of 300 people looked at him, shocked, as he stood up at the back of the classroom. The professor shouted, "You FOOL!! If God existed, he could keep this piece of chalk from breaking when it hit the ground!" He proceeded to drop the chalk, but as he did, it slipped out of his fingers, off his shirt cuff, onto the pleats of his pants, down his leg, and off his shoe. As it hit the round, it simply rolled away, unbroken. The professor's jaw dropped as he stared at the chalk. He looked up at the young man and then walked out of the lecture hall.

The young man who had stood up proceeded to walk to the front of the room and share his faith in Jesus for the next half hour. 300 students stayed and listened as he told of God's love for them and of his power through Jesus. "Yet to all who received HIM, to those who believed in HIS name, HE gave the right to become children of God-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of GOD." "But HE knows the way that I take. When HE has tested me, I will come forth as gold." Job 23:10
usahog Offline
#7 Posted:
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Great Post Swim!!!

Hog
cwilhelmi Offline
#8 Posted:
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It isn't true because the chalk actually fell and broke into a thousand pieces... which means...
usahog Offline
#9 Posted:
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Swim, I copied and pasted yours along with the Original and sent it out to my Sister and Family... and she has forwarded it On... I'll send you what she said to me in her email...

Thanks Again for your Post!!!!
Hog
Sylance Offline
#10 Posted:
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Quote:

Violence proves the existence of God. Now THAT'S one I never thought I'd hear.
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What fewer and fewer people remember is that we humans exist in a literal battlefield between Good and Evil. There are forces at work that only wish to destroy humans’ connection with God... to "eat" our souls. We exist (with God's help) to fight against that force with any tool necessary. So I wouldn’t go far to say that violence proves the existence of God, but I would say this story is a good analogy of what is asked of us.
cwilhelmi Offline
#11 Posted:
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LMAO!
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted:
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Chris,
Why the laughter?
Whether you believe in God or not, it shows poor character to mock others beliefs.
We often (usually) see things from different sides of the fence, but you usually show some class.

Not this time.
cwilhelmi Offline
#13 Posted:
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Laughing at the violence = god exists analogy, not the overall belief. After I hit submit I realized I should have clarified. No offense intended...
Cigarick Offline
#14 Posted:
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"What fewer and fewer people remember is that we humans exist in a literal battlefield between Good and Evil. There are forces at work that only wish to destroy humans’ connection with God... to "eat" our souls."

You must be referring to the Demoncrats.
cwilhelmi Offline
#15 Posted:
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LMAO @ cigarick, I thought he was referring to Arnold though...
hoagie55 Offline
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I guess you've forgotten the whole battle for heaven where Lucifer and his followers attempted to overthrow God. Consequently, they were banished from heaven into hell.

What about Michael, God's Mighty Angel who helped dispell Lucifer?

If you read the bible you will see numerous accounts of God and His wrath. The numerous battles that were fought for Him, numerous enemies of Israel that were defeated by God.

Matt
cwilhelmi Offline
#17 Posted:
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I'm atheist, the tales in the bible hold no proof for me, and if anything dispell any chance of me believing.

If there was anything that would make me believe in a god it would be facts showing care and love and would NOT include fire and brimstone.
usahog Offline
#18 Posted:
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atheist?? I never have understood what this means?

atheist to what??

Hog
a248919 Offline
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Cwilhelmi—

You not entitled to care and love, no one is because we all are sinners, and the only thing we are entitled to is death (fire and brimstone); but God freely and abundantly give grace. I have been thought to think of it this way… it you committed a murder and were sentenced to death, but the Gov came along and pardoned you what did you get… not justice, justice would have been your death sentence. You received grace, something you received but were never entitled to
usahog Offline
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Ksig, your correct by the laws of the land... but be it on Judgement day.. and no Man can (should) pass Judgement among another... be it on that Day... you'll have to answer for your Own!!!

I'm sorry that you all view it as Fire and Brimstone... I myself can attest to a much better life!!!

Hog
a248919 Offline
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usahog-
I think maybe we missed each other. All I was trying to say is, God owes us nothing, (why does bad things happen to good people) we are all sinners, "there is no good, no not one", and the penalty for sin is death, separation from God for eternity. However my sins are forgiving by the finished and accomplished work of Jesus Christ and his death on Calvary. Thanks all I was getting at.

usahog Offline
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Ksig, I'm sorry I did miss read your post before...

I missed the "I look at it this way" Part in your post...Again I appologize for that... I'm a little jumpy these days and need to slow down a bit myself...

you are correct in what you were posting although I do not View Death as being cast away from God...

and for myself I hope I am standing right with God today may that day beit....for he himself alone holds that Key to Eternal Life with Him or Damnation!!!!

Again Sorry for this missread...

Hog
Robby Offline
#23 Posted:
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There was a lot of smiting in the OT. Go kill those people and take their land. That's what I was referring to when I said there's lots of violence in the good book. Not saying it's not a good book. It is, and I believe, but there be violence in there.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Agnostic I can see how, but Athesism...isn't that like saying I choose not to believe in God? So if(and that's the BIGGEST IF to me in the universe!)there is no God, then why do you believe this to be valid practice?


I'm not singling you out Chris, its just I'd like to know. I've never "known" an Athesist.
choner Offline
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I'm an atheist. I just don't believe there is a god or gods. Its not that hard to comprehend. I can understand why some belive in a god, and its the same to not believe in one too.

choner
cwilhelmi Offline
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It's not that I choose not to believe in God, it's that I think there is no God. It's not a practice, there's no meetings or collection plate. By definition it's the absence of faith and theistic belief.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#27 Posted:
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But in choosing not believe aren't you saying that there is a God?
cwilhelmi Offline
#28 Posted:
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no, like I said, I'm not choosing to not believe, I think there is no God, just like I think there is no santa claus or easter bunny.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#29 Posted:
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Oh, now you've done it! You're telling me that you don't believe in Santa!

Chris...did you drink the "kool-aid"?
cwilhelmi Offline
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I will not fall victim to faulty logic, now spiked Kool-aid is another story...

dz130 Offline
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Whaddaya mean no Santa Claus? Whose been eating the milk and cookies I leave out on Christmas Eve? I live alone.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#32 Posted:
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See! See THAT! There is a Santa!


"You'll put your eye out with that thing!" - Santa Claus
Cigarick Offline
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I, too, am a free-thinking atheist. Started out as a Catholic, migrated to Lutheranism, then started reading on my own.

"So if(and that's the BIGGEST IF to me in the universe!)there is no God, then why do you believe this to be valid practice?"

Uh... because there's not a single shred of evidence to support the idea that there IS a god? That sounds more like reasoning to me.

Face it: if you propose that God exists, it's on you to prove it, for the simple fact that it's impossible to prove something doesn't exist.

"You not entitled to care and love, no one is because we all are sinners, and the only thing we are entitled to is death"

Good grief! Take a pill, buddy--life's not that bad!
tailgater Offline
#34 Posted:
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This is getting redundant.
Some believe.
Some don't.
I think it's easy to understand.

It's called "Faith" because there is no absolute Proof.

usahog Offline
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I Have enough "Faith" that I even Say a Prayer for my other BOTL weather or no you Believe in a God!!!!

Hog
cwilhelmi Offline
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tg - I agree!
Sylance Offline
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If there was anything that would make me believe in a god it would be facts showing care and love and would NOT include fire and brimstone.
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Here’s my two cents…

A lot of people use that argument, “Well there’s so much pain and suffering in the world, that there must not be a God.”

I believe that God is a God of pure love… beyond what our egotistical minds can even begin to comprehend. If you truly love something, you’ll give it complete freedom… freedom to believe and freedom to deny. Freedom to do good, and freedom to do evil. We have the freedom to follow God, or Evil…. or do nothing at all. But sometimes a spectator is even worse than the perpetrator.

Also, the thought that God will turn people away from Heaven bothers me. God is pure love, and therefore will forgive any who wants His grace. However at the time of death, when the soul begins its journey, there are powerful entities that wish to pull you away from that path… imagine things like attack dogs clawing, scratching and biting at you. So if your connection is not strong, you can get pulled away from that path and dragged down to Hell… similar to the scene in the movie Ghost.

That’s my two cents…
Tobasco Offline
#38 Posted:
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I strongly believe in God. I also believe that god has given us a life to live that we control, and the destiny of our lives is determined by our own actions.

I dont think that God decided that Bill Gates would be the richest man in the world. Just as I dont believe God chose for a homeless person to live with nothing and hardship.

Thats why there is a heaven and hell. Why would God let a human be created that has a predetermined destiny to go to hell?

Our own decisions in life determine the outcome. Just my opinion.

Mag
dz130 Offline
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I had a friend who told me that we didn't control our destinies. She put it this way, God gives you the ability to decide. You walk down your road of life, and come to a fork. Each fork will take you down a predetermined destiny in your life. You choose the fork in the road, but the destination has already been decided before you chose it.
Plus, ask any combat veteran, there are no atheists in foxholes.
a248919 Offline
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Cigarick-

I obviously can not argue with you. I you do not believe in the infallible work of God, called the bible then all I can do for you (like hog said) is pray for you. However in case you want to look Roman 3:23, Romans 6:23 will give you the verse I quoted. As far as being able to prove God, man just look around, look at your wife and kids (if you have any) the glory of god is everywhere. Romans 1:20.

I digress
Cigarick Offline
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That's not proof, that's biology.
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