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any response will simply prove the point.

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2003/10/we_558_01.html

i did not want the standard "oh yea, well clinton was a disgrace and george is a genius." i did want a response and your's is excellent.

do you think that, however well intentioned, assuming any senators were well intentioned, become enamored of their the "position". they call each other the honorable senator from ---. they become more then mortals. they become demi-gods and are more interested in maintaining the title then actually the responsibility they have assumed when they were elected.

without getting into the hypocricy of the leaders on both sides, look at daschle.

he professes to be the leader of the democrats and yet never opens his mouth to critisize bush or offer any solutions. his job is to set an agenda that will help americans in whatever capacity the government can. he might as well be a republican, or a libertarian, or a member of any party because he simply want's to make no waves and maintain his "honerable" title.

the republicans at least are a cohesive unit, even though i don't like what their direction is.

boss tweed was no more corrupt then the people in washington are now, but he built libraries, schools, and hospitals.

I didn't think there were any "yes men" left but I guess I wrong. Must be nepotism instead.

Letter to the Editor
The Washington Times
June 7, 1995




(Dear Hillary)

During the past several months in the American press, the Democrats have frequently denounced the Republicans as Nazis due to their attempts to control runaway federal spending. How very ironic. I remember the Nazis. Let me share a little about them and recall some of their exploits.

First of all, "Nazi" was gutter slang for the verb "to nationalize". The Bider-Mienhoff gang gave themselves this moniker during their early struggles. The official title of the Nazi Party was "The National Socialist Workers Party of Germany". Hitler and the Brownshirts advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, national resources, manufacturing, distribution and law enforcement.

Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed, and academic elite against the conservative republic. After der fuhrer's election ceased being a political conspiracy and was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon, pary membership was especially popular with educators, bureaucrats, and the press. Being a Nazi was politically correct. They called themselves "The Children of the New Age of World Order" and looked down their noses at everyone else. As Hitler accrued more power, he referred to his critics as "The Dark Forces of Anarchy and Hatred". Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness in the German press was branded a "Conservative Reactionary". Joseph Goebbels, minister of communications, proclaimed a "New World Order".

The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the Jews, Bohemians and Gypses who were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the "New World Order" and Hitler demanded that all good people register their guns so that they wouldn't fall into the hands of "terrorists and madmen". Right wing fanatics of the "Old Order" who protested firearms registration were arrested by the S.S. and put in jail for "fomenting hatred against the Government of the German people".

Then the Reichstag (government building) was blown up and Hitler ram-rodded an "Emergency Anti-Terrorist Act" through Parliament that gave the Gestapo extraordinary powers. The leader then declared that for the well-being of the German people, all private firearms were to be confiscated by the Gestapo and the Wermotten (federal law enforcement and military). German citizens who refused to surrender their guns when the "jack-boots" (Gestapo) came calling, were murdered in their homes. By the way, the Gestapo were the federal marshals' service of the Third Reich. The S.W.A.T. team was invented and perfected by the Gestapo to break into the homes of the enemies of the German people.

When the Policia Bewakken, or local police, refused to take away guns from townsfolk, they themselves were disarmed and dragged out into the street and shot to death by the S.A. and the S.S. Those were Nazi versions of the B.A.T.F. and the F.B.I. When several local ministers spoke out against these atrocities, they were imprisoned and never seen again.

The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizes who had prospered in the old Republic. Pamphleteers who urged revolt against the Nazis were shot on site by national law enforcement and the military. Gypsies and Jews were detained and sent to labor camps. Mountain roads throughout central Europe were closed to prevent the escape of fugitives into the wilderness, and to prevent the movement and concealment of partisan resistance fighters.

Public schools rewrote history and Hitler youth groups taught the children to report their parents to their teachers for anti-Nazi remarks. Such parents disappeared. Pagan animism became the state religion of the Third Reich and Christians were widely condemned as "right wing fanatics".

Millions of books were burned first and then people. Millions of them burned in huge ovens after they were first gassed to death. Unmarried women were paid large sums of money to have babies out of wedlock and then given medals for it. Evil was declared as being good, and good was condemned as being evil. World Order was coming and the German people were going to be the "peacekeepers".

Yes, indeed(Hillary), I remember the Nazis and they weren't Republicans, or "right wing", or "patriots" or "militias". They were Socialist monsters.

Thomas Colton Ruthford

Steve R you are the man. I will never understand how these people can believe that it is unpatriotic to be anti-war. Being an AMERICAN is about enjoying a level of PERSONAL FREEDOM to do and say as we please, when we please. Although I was born in this country, if things ever go sour enough, I will be the first to get the hell out of here. As for people who think it is treason to protest the war, or anything else, perhaps you are living in the wrong country AND the wrong century.

Five generations of my family have served during time of war. My great grandfather in the Civil War, my grandfather in the Spanish American War, my father in WWII, myself during the Vietnam era, my son in Somalia and Bosnia. Three of those had/have combat related disabilities. My thirteen year old grandson is debating whether to go Army or Air Force. I don't support the war in Iraq. I dare anyone to call me unpatriotic!!

If I recall the "right" screamed bloody murder when we went into Somalia,Bosnia/Kosov because we were "nation building". Where's that same indignation on Iraq where we are bragging about rebuilding that nation in our image. What do we do if the free and fair election we fighting for results in the ****e majority taking power and taking Iraq down the "theocracy" path? Do we call a "redo" and start all over??

Dusty,
You've misunderstood the old saying:
"When the going gets tough, the tough get going"

That was not intended to mean "run away like a little baby"

Hope that clears things up.

OK.
Now I have to speak out.
ONLY FASCIST BASTARDS ARE AGAINST FREEDOM OF SPEECH, whether it agrees with them or not. My opinion, is that GWB is a fascist, as was Hitler and Mussolini. I am conservative, way different than a Fascist, and way different from a Liberal. I used to be a republican, but GWB, and the right wing of the Republican party has driven me away from the party. I am now a Libertarian. Several things point to the republican party going to Fascism. The Patriot act. Written by Republicans, but passed by both parties, on emotion alone. 9-11 had us all in an emotional state. By the time anyone had a chance to read it, it was law. Hopefully the Supreme court will overturn it. As is the only constitutional option. It is our duty, to disagree with a fascist movement, whether they call us Unamerican or not, as they are the ones who are UnAmerican.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)

http://www.cpusa.org/

Damn,
I was hoping for someone to rebutt my statements, but typical Republican redherring, and a ludicrous response, by way of a link to the Commie website. I guess I expected too much from the Blind followers of GWB.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. Here come the unintelligable Flames. LOL

http://www.cpusa.org/article/archive/11/

Dave,
Since I was 18, I was enrolled as "independent" (or unenrolled as they now call it).
Until about 3 years ago when I changed it to Republican to reflect my voting preference over the long haul.

I dissagree with much that the Republicans have done, but even if I feel the current group has swayed from the true Republican platform I know that my voting will reflect MY viewpoints.
In other words, there is no need to bail.

And I like the prospect of the Libertarian party, but I'm afraid that the cutting of ALL non-essential govermental functions would eventually lead to a huge swing in the opposite direction. Read: Socialism.

Let's face it, the Patriot Act would not be needed if the current laws allowed for common sense. None of the 9-11 pilots could even have been investigated without some civil rights violation which I'm sure the ACLU would have pursued.
The concept of the Patriot Act may be scary, but the intent is pure.