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65gtoman Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 2:55 AM EST
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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36062


Looks like the republicans did.


"I support the troops just not the war" YEA RIGHT




TinMan51 Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 8:34 AM EST
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65gtoman" After reading your post and then going to the story that you had the link for , I read the whole thing and was appauld at what is going on with this Lt Col. And like the hot head I can be some times I did send a statement to the Defence Dept on behalf of Lt. Col West. So if I don't post any more after this week it's becuase the Goverment got my Butt and Locked me Up. LMAO.. Things like this should not be allowed to happen and we as a nation need to stand up and support our service people our SONS AND DAUGHTER against the head line grabbing Politians....I know my Spelling is SH## again. LOL. this is just the HO of a serviceman's Father. TinMan
JonR Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 9:08 AM EST
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Yo TinMan51: You are correct Sir ! If he was in the Marine Corps his Commanding Officer would have shook his hand and said: " Well Done ". JonR
plabonte Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 11:08 AM EST
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If I were going to play devil's advocate here I would say the ends don't justify the means.

However, I'm not. Instead I'll say you have to do what you have to do and this guy did just that. Excellent job on his part.
TinMan51 Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 11:59 AM EST
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I guess what gets me worked up is the arm chair quarter backing that is always done in times like these. I just can't abid by some one who has NEVER been under fire thinking that they can or ever will know what it is like and to have the responseability of others lives at thier fingure tips and Not take what ever action is needed to save those lives.. These type of people are better off leaving the life taking and life saving to those who are trained to do it. BUT don't get me wrong as with anything if that person is wrong and willfully & Knowningly commits an act that is not justifiable that involves a human life then they should stand accountantable.. It is a Very fine Line and those of us that have walked that line know what it is to have to make those choices but then again with those people who do that the rest of us would be looking for the East with our Rugs or bowing down to some other form of life that is not for to freely choose.. I guess what I'm trying to say it is always easier to sit back safe and draw conclusions than to have ever experinced what life and death really is about and have to make those choices. I commend Lt Col West for his actions and can only whish that My Son would have such a commander over him to help him come home safe. BTW Not only do I have a son that is active duty but I also have another Family member who is over in the same town this took place in , so I guess i'm alittle one sided about this. God Bless Lt. Col West. JMHO....Now Back to the Regular Program....TinMan
jdrabinski Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 12:45 PM EST
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Broke the rules. How do they say it? "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Send him to prison. We have rules for a reason. Obey them and this won't happen.
Sylance Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 1:00 PM EST
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And what I like best is he is prepared to go to prison. He is prepared to do the time as you stated it.

That being said we have rules for a reason, but can you tell me why? When we begin to serve the law and the law stops serving us... we lose common sense.
Gene363 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 2:16 PM EST
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Breaking the rules isn't good, his CO should have thrown away his report and told him stop wasting paper and to carry on.
SteveS Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 2:19 PM EST
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Common sense tells us that this man is no "criminal" who should be "doing time" as a result of his "crime"

But common sense is out the window ... this case is as laughably idiotic as the school girl who's in jeopardy of being expelled from school for having a bottle of Tylenol in her purse ... but, to our society's detriment, no one's laughing and both cases are being pursued as though they were somehow "crimes" ...

I would be the first one in the audience to be on my feet and leading a standing ovation for Col West if he were introduced in a settting where I were present and I'd stand in line to shake his hand ...

Do the time if you do the crime? ... give me a f*$%ing break!!!

usahog Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 2:19 PM EST
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I'll LMAO @ John for this one..
"Broke the rules. How do they say it? "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Send him to prison. We have rules for a reason. Obey them and this won't happen."

So Mr. I know everything and Condem my Country... What are the Rules of Engagement when it comes to Saving Lives in a Military Situation??? You always step way out there to add your two cents against the Military... but unless you can show your DD214 you need to keep out of Issue's pertaining to the Military...

Col. West Saved lives and if I were in his Shoe's I would have done the same damn thing... it is the "Yes Men" in the Military who are dragging this man down.. and the rest of our Military also... the "Yes Men" are the same one's who are making our Commander and Chief look bad also!!!!!!!

Hog
SteveS Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 2:58 PM EST
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BTW ...

I noticed in the story that the link (see initial post) leads to that there is a means of sending Col West an e-mail.

I took the opportunity to do just that and in my note, not only expressed my support, but told him that I'd like to shake his hand and that it was my opinion that he was the sort of CO I'd have been pleased to have my son serve under during his term of military service.
MDavis Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 3:00 PM EST
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First my credentials. DD214s x 2. I think everyone is missing the something. We don't know what his rules of engagement were. The article doesn't say. However, I assume he violated them. I agree with Bob Barr that this guy is not a hero for what he did in this instance. He allowed subordinates to beat the man and then discharged a weapon near the mans head to frighten him into providing information. These are the same type of tactics used on our POWs since WWII and from all accounts by the Iraqis against some our guys in Iraq. We shouldn't condone this behavior and make him into a hero for these actions.

What we should do is honor this man because of his character, courage and dedication.

He apparently knew he was violating the rules of engagement and did so without hesitation in defense of his men. He then reported the incident to his superiors and stood ready to face the consequences. I find that inspiring. This is a man who knew what he was doing, knew if placed himself and his career at risk but decided it was worth the risk for his men. He should be punished. Sounds like he will be. His career is over and he won't be leading men into battle anymore. That's unfortunate. He's the kind of solider I'd want leading my son or grandson.

I wish him well and believe that a man of such character will be just fine.
Robby Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 5:27 PM EST
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Mr. jdrabinski, the rules used to be one water fount for whites and another for everyone else. Follow the rules you say? Always a good idea?
TinMan51 Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Dec 11 2003, 5:40 PM EST
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Mr jb I see your still aorund trying to stir up things. Good thing we have peole like Col West to things going so people like you can talk thier trash.. Have a safe and peaceful night Sir Complements of those who serve reguardless of their safety or life so people like you can talk trash.. TinMan
I just know your going to slam back with some garbage but hey at least your leaving some one else alone if your in here doing it.. Bless The USA and The people who serve with out concern for themselves....HooAhhh.
plabonte Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 3:54 AM EST
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Well said MDavis.
jdrabinski Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 4:58 AM EST
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I condemn my country's actions in Iraq. And I condemn usahog for continually attempting to curb my freedoms.

Usahog, have you never condemned your country's actions? If not, and you've always been led like a blind sheep, you've shirked your duties as a citizen.

Usahog...bro, you need to stop worshipping the military. It is one job option among others. It neither makes you an authority on everything concerning foreign policy nor an automatic hero. This guy is no hero. I feel safe making that judgment. It is not only my right as a citizen, but something I am justified in doing as an informed and thoughtful person. Sorry that violates the military worship mentality of so many in here.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 5:08 AM EST
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That's great Johnny, but if you want to condemn your country you could do a better service by going to a philosopher website or even commies hate the US website. You won't sway anyone!
JonR Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 8:34 AM EST
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Yo jdrabinski: You claim to be a citizen of the USA, yet you sound more like a citizen of Russia. If in fact you are a citizen of the USA why don't you get a meaningful job and help your country fight communism. JonR
DrMaddVibe Offline
#19 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 12:07 PM EST
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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36116

Had to pay $5,000! I say we pass the hat for this officer.
MDavis Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 12:36 PM EST
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JonR

You're kidding right. News Flash - Commies defeated and those countries where it still exists are starving to death.

We're fighting international terrorism now.
usahog Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 1:44 PM EST
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Did you say something DMV???

I thought I heard something from way in the Back???

JonR did you let one go????

MDavis what is the difference between International Terrorism and Domestic Terrorism??

JohnBoy JimBob, Psssssttt Sis you Awake???
I have never Condemed my Country EVER... but I condem **** Who Condem my Country so take that times two add one then take away five and what do you got to say??? thats what I thought!!!!!

God Bless LT Col. West!!!!!!!
People Like him Keep this Country Safe!!!!!

Hog
MDavis Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 2:41 PM EST
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Hog

Mmmmmmmmmmm. I give up. I think I missed your point.

jdrabinski Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 6:34 PM EST
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MDavis, his point was that he'll accept anything the president says as true and does as good. Otherwise, if you are anything but a sheep, you are committing treason and deserve to be beaten.

I, for one, do not believe that usahog was such a cheerleader of his country during Clinton's years. In fact, I bet there was a lot of condemnation of his country's actions. In fact, I bet he condemns this country's actions concerning abortion rights.

But this is really about military worship. Whatever the military does is good and virtuous and holy. If you aren't a veteran, then you can have no opinion on foreign policy.

A simple point. And it's called intellectual fascism.
usahog Offline
#24 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 6:43 PM EST
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How Much JohnBoy??? how much you want to put on that Bet you refrenced in your last Bable?

there you go putting words in my Mouth Again...

I hear tell the reason we have Philosphy Professors in this world. is because their daddy's were premature ejaculators and the best part of them ran down their Momma's Leg???????

Hog
jdrabinski Offline
#25 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 6:50 PM EST
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Man, hog, you've sunk really low when you start talking about my father's sperm. You should leave him alone. He's a **** war hero, bro. Decorated to the hilt!
usahog Offline
#26 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 6:58 PM EST
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where in what I posted did you see me single out anyone's Dad?? including yours Johnboy??

that was all plural and left to wide open ranges...

there you go again thinking I was attacking you..

you need to lay off the sauce and don't call me Bro... that went south when you denounced this Country I Dearly Love!!!!!

Hog
jdrabinski Offline
#27 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 7:03 PM EST
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usahog: answer this question...

...do you condemn this country's policy on abortion?

usahog Offline
#28 Posted: Fri, Dec 12 2003, 7:17 PM EST
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No why would I condem my Country over an issue that has been dragging on through the courts for well over 80 yrs? I have my feelings on the issue. you have yours. you can argue the fact that if a woman is raped. I can argue it is a human being killed. you don't like war because people die. but you agree with killing baby's.. I on the other hand would take a life so many can live Free. but do not agree in ending a life before it has a chance to make the choice to fight against me...

you teach Philosphy... thats your thing...

My Philosphy is simple.. I don't trouble trouble unless trouble troubles me!!!

At that point I deal with the situation the best way I know how.. and every day there will always be another situation to deal with weather it leads to trouble or not only God Knows!!!!

Hog
65gtoman Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 12:01 AM EST
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What makes him a hero, -

he is no hero, there are no hero’s in war, he was a blind sheep being lead by his masters, with no free will to think for himself, working for the system. Killing the weak and innocent off only because some leader told him too. he was a butcher.





65gtoman Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 12:06 AM EST
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the above was a reply for:

Man, hog, you've sunk really low when you start talking about my father's sperm. You should leave him alone. He's a fuing war hero, bro. Decorated to the hilt
65gtoman Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 12:48 AM EST
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What makes your father a war hero and not this Col West? That’s what I would like to know. Where does YOUR lack of respect for the US military come from? Or was your father not in the US forces? Maybe USSR? Just wondering,,
jdrabinski Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 5:01 AM EST
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I CHALLENGE YOU, 65GTO OR HOG OR ANY OTHERS, TO SHOW ME WHERE I'VE SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT MILITARY PERSONNEL. I HAVE CONDEMNED THE ACTIONS OF LEADERS.

As it stands, there is just this typical hot air about jdrabinski (and you haven't a clue who I am) says the military folks are evil. But this is a fiction, invented by the military worshipers here so that they don't have to respond to my points.

I'll be waiting for these alleged statements I've made. I'm hoping that you don't avoid the issue, 65igotaman and usahog, though I suspect you will.
usahog Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 5:43 AM EST
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I'm not avoiding Squat John.. in a thread awhile back you denounced your Country.. by doing so you also denounce the Fighting Men and Women who keep this Country dear to their Hearts... therefore Denouncing them also.. you are one Self Righteous, Self Centered SOB...Your Only Concerns are for yourself and when that gets Damaged in your little mind, you feel the world is After just YOU.. I told you in a thread awhile back.. you need to see about some help with your problems... I wasn't kidding!!!!!

Hog
usahog Offline
#34 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 6:50 AM EST
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LTC ALLEN B. WEST


Breaking News! Lt. Col. Allen B. West, who faced criminal charges for firing his weapon to intimidate an Iraqi detainee into providing information about an upcoming assault on West's unit, has himself, dodged a bullet.

LTC West's actions yielded critical information which enabled West and his soldiers to thwart the attack -- thus saving the lives of their fellow soldiers. It was and remains our position that LTC West's actions were justified. Indeed, President Bush, on his visit to Iraq Thanksgiving Day, said "In some cases, the measured use of force is all that protects us from a chaotic world ruled by force." We believe this certainly applies in the case of LTC West.

To that end, The Federalist's companion site, PatriotPetitions.US, collected more than 130,000 signatures asking President George Bush, Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, acting Secretary of the Army Secretary Les Brownlee and Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno, exonerate LTC West from this grossly misguided prosecution and any criminal charges.

On the day LTC West's Article 32 Board convened, Patriot Petitions released the results of the petition in support of LTC West. We learned yesterday afternoon, that the Army hearing officer in this case, LTC James Davis, has recommended to MGEN Raymond Odierno, the 4th Infantry Division commander, Article 15 administrative correction for LTC West -- but no court-martial. MGEN Odierno can accept or decline that recommendation.

"It's extremely good news," said Neal Puckett, LTC West's attorney. "This is what we think the Army should have done from the very beginning." LTC West indicated from the start of this case that he was willing to accept nonjudicial Article 15 punishment and then retire. MGEN Odierno has already relieved him of his artillery battalion command, a career killer. LTC West has submitted a retirement request and acting Army Secretary Les Brownlee may retire LTC West at his current rank, or at the reduced rank of major.

We contend that LTC West should have received honorable recognition for his actions and be promoted to full Colonel -- his considerable experience will be missed on the frontlines of our war with Jihadistan.
65gtoman Offline
#35 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 6:58 AM EST
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Lt. Col. Allen B. West is a true American hero. God bless him and this country.

jdrabinski Offline
#36 Posted: Sat, Dec 13 2003, 5:08 PM EST
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"in a thread awhile back you denounced your Country.. by doing so you also denounce the Fighting Men and Women who keep this Country dear to their Hearts... therefore Denouncing them also"

????

Please draw the connection for me. I don't see it.
usahog Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 10:07 AM EST
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John, I'm not going to surf around Cbid to pull up your Babble... You Said It, I Read it and you truely show your Colors every time you open your Yapper!!!!!!

Hog
jdrabinski Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 11:02 AM EST
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usahog, ok, so you are bascially admitting that you've made this **** up.

Waiting for your apology...
usahog Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 12:36 PM EST
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Did Hell Freeze Over??? John could you Hold your Breath and Wait for that Appology???

re-read what I said, I'm not going to surf back through your Babble to find the post where you made that Statement about My Country... if you cannot remember when you said it.. you really shouldn't be on the forum Blowing off when you've had to much to drink... or maybe that was you sober.. either way the words were typed by you... and for that I have no further use for YOU!!!!!
end of Topic!!!!

Hog
cooksta2 Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 2:55 PM EST
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Jr,
As a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne there are some issues that need to be faced and often tough decisions made but when a person that agrees with a military point of view is called a sheep, it implies that you consider all military supporters sheep. Stating people are sheep and smug comments are usually derived from the inability to share a common perspective from a person with no military experience. During war many terrible actions take place but one must decide if they would rather protect their brother and destroy their enemy or be warm and fuzzy with the enemy and jeopardize the life of their brother. My view is I would rather have a pit bull on a leash instead of a wimp with a rule book and a smart mouth. Yes, there will always controversial situations but you do have the right to join the military, change any law that conflicts your personal belief and spew any justification that you believe is correct. However, any service member understands that in the end it is us or them. Don't forget that you have the right to piss and moan beacause of a soldier and a government that many do not believe in. It just so happens that we do! For those that believe, no explanation is necessary, but for those that do not, no explanation will ever be good enough. Have a great day, believe in your views and Hoorah for the Military.( From an experienced Vet )
usahog Offline
#41 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 3:03 PM EST
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Well Said Cooksta!!!!

God Bless ya Bro!!!!!

Hog
jdrabinski Offline
#42 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 4:13 PM EST
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Cooksta, I explain what I believe, I don't spew. Get that straight.

usahog, you've been repeating this untruth for weeks, that I've criticized military personnel. It isn't true, you know it, and now that I've asked you to prove this unfounded accusation, you retreat and declare 'end of topic.' Well, to anyone who reads this with a clear head, it is obvious that you are running from my question. Be a man and answer it: where did I criticize military personnel? If you say I did, then the burden of proof is on YOU to show it to be the case.

It isn't the case. I suspect that, deep down, you know it. I criticized and continue to criticize those who make decisions. In this case, I criticize those who send these men and women to die and be maimed for stupid reasons. That's all I ever said.

Criticize military personnel? Prove it, usahog. 'End of topic'? Not.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 4:23 PM EST
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I vote for spew.
usahog Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 4:26 PM EST
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now it's critisized Military People.. John You Denounced Your Country... Meaning these United States.. the Same as what my Oath is to Protect...
as it is every Military Member of these United States..

I don't have to Proove ****... anyone Even Newbies can do a: Search the Boards/ jdrabinski / All Messages/ and read all your Ranting Hipacritical BS you spew out and make a determination for themselves on what type of Ass you are.... Nuff Said!!!!

Hog
jdrabinski Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 6:18 PM EST
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I denounced my country's actions in invading Iraq. Now, how do you turn that into condemning soldiers?

Nice evasion, usahog. I am not asking "newbies" to find the information out. I am asking for you to explain your repeated false statements about me. You won't. That's a cowardly cop-out and you know it. You know you've made this b.s. up, I called you on it, and you are too much of a ***sy to come clean about it.
usahog Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, Dec 14 2003, 6:35 PM EST
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No John I already told you I'm not going to surf back through old Spew you've throwen out just to find the thread where you made the Statement and as I stated You Typed it I Read it and now you know where WE Stand with each other...

You can call me what you would like... there isn't any sweat off my A$$ over the Issues... your Issues you need to address with someone who carries a PHD... they've got Prescriptions to help you with your problems also John... so look on the Bright side there's light at the end of your Tunnel!!!!!

Have a Nice Day ((((L))))

Hog
rayder1 Offline
#47 Posted: Mon, Dec 15 2003, 7:20 AM EST
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I rather suprised that the use of special methods in the interrogation were brought to trial. I always thought and expected that special methods were applied in most interrogation situations during war time.
I just wonder who squaked. That's the one who should be punished.
Charlie Offline
#48 Posted: Tue, Dec 16 2003, 7:51 AM EST
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The man should be highly decorated for the action he took to save his troops from ambush!

Prof John........"you are in another world", a Liberal dream society and you stand to the left of anything that makes sense......why don't you think about moving to Iraq and help them rebuild? LMAO at your silly ideas......but you have a right to say them in this Country!

Charlie
Sylance Offline
#49 Posted: Tue, Dec 16 2003, 12:56 PM EST
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Jdrabinski,

Although you may not have ever said you denounce America or the military, I have yet to hear you say anything complimentary about either of them. In fact, you give the impression that all war is pointless. I think those who have served as the tip of the spear are the only ones qualified to give their point of view.

War is the ugly truth of humanity. One of my most hated bumper stickers is “Visualize World Peace.” These people believe that world peace will just happen if we will just step aside and let it through. World peace will only happen with the blood, sweat, and tears of our and other democratic militaries.

Oh, and to backup some of my points about you are these:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...lay=0000000007972#71785

“The United States of America: Land of Death and Destruction, Bombs and Missiles.”

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ay=0000000015436#147649

“I condemn my country because the current leadership is an absolute embarrassment”
uncleb Offline
#50 Posted: Tue, Dec 16 2003, 1:20 PM EST
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Sylance,

While I do not agree with most of what Jdrabinski says or espouses(sp), I wholeheartedly disagree with this prevalent notion that just because someone has not served in the military or fought in a war, they do not have the right to voice their opinion regarding war or the military.

Going by your statement "I think those who have served as the tip of the spear are the only ones qualified to give their point of view" would suggest to me that I should not be allowed my free speech right to approve or disapprove of a military action, is this correct?
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