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3 illegals beat a woman and her daughter
65gtoman Offline
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3 illegals arrested after assault; Took Hereford residents' vehicle during incident
Herald/Review

HEREFORD - Illegal immigrants who allegedly carjacked a vehicle and beat a woman and her daughter Thursday morning were caught by U.S. Border Patrol agents and turned over to the Cochise County Sheriff's Department.
A 35-year-old woman and her 14-year-old daughter came out of their residence at the 5000 block of Ricardo Drive and got into their vehicle when they were approached by three men shortly after 6 a.m. Thursday, said Carol Capas, a Sheriff Department's spokeswoman.

One of the men opened the driver's side door and pulled the woman from inside "while striking her with his hand and threatening her with an ink pen," Capas said. The woman said she was then thrown to the ground when a second person struck her daughter in the face while pulling her from the vehicle.

The woman was on the way to take her daughter to school when the incident happened, Capas said. Fry Fire Department medics responded to the scene and treated both victims for minor cuts and abrasions.

The three men drove off in the vehicle and a call went out for help, including to the U.S. Border Patrol, she said.

U.S. Border Patrol Tucson Sector's spokesman Rob Daniels said agents got involved about 6:30 a.m. when they were told by the Sheriff's Department that a trio of men reportedly took a 1999 gray Chevrolet Suburban from a Hereford area residence.

The Sheriff's Department told agents they were looking for three Hispanic men who stole a vehicle and were last seen driving eastbound to Highway 92, Daniels said.

The vehicle was spotted on Highway 92 soon after in the Palominas area. Agents from the Naco Station attempted to stop the Suburban. The driver of the Chevrolet attempted to lose the agents "during a high-speed pursuit," Daniels said.

The vehicle eventually stopped off the highway near milepost 346, and agents saw the three men get out of the Suburban and flee on foot.

A Loris Scope, a piece of night-vision equipment, was near the scene, and the agent using it helped direct agents to where the three men were hiding, Daniels said. A Loris Scope is an infrared camera mounted on an extendable boom on a truck that a single agent operates.

After being apprehended, the three men were taken to the Naco Station and interviewed by sheriff's deputies, Daniels said.

Two of the men were from the Mexican state of Sinaola. The other is from the state of Jalisco. The men, who were 19, 22 and 23 years old, entered the United States illegally, Daniels said.

The men were turned over to the sheriff's deputies. They also are being held on an immigration hold pending federal charges.

Capas said the men are in custody of the Sheriff's Department pending several charges against them.

Sheriff Larry Dever is advising county residents to exercise care due to the increase of illegal immigrant activity in residential areas.

"I remind everyone to be alert and aware of your surroundings to help minimize the danger of being taken by surprise. Always drive with your doors locked and don't stop to pick up strangers," Dever said.

Any suspicious activity needs to be reported immediately to the Sheriff's Department or local police agency, he added.


http://sierratimes.com/04/02/02/ap_illegal_assualt.htm
RDC Offline
#2 Posted:
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Shoot Them!!

Bury them up to their heads in the hot Texas sun and let the sun bake them and the fire ants eat them!

And some people thing there is no illegal alien problem. Get a clue.
65gtoman Offline
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Hey stop using them slag words "illegal aliens"

They are undocumented workers!!!!!!

Don’t let that mistake happen again! lol

redneck1 Offline
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It is getting out of hand. What would happen to you or me if we went to Mexico and pulled that stunt????



RDC Offline
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We would already have been tourtered to death.
Cavallo Offline
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i'm not saying that illegal aliens in this country are not a problem. i would caution folks to NOT stir up a bunch of anti-latino b.s., though. nuff said.

and i'm not saying that these )@#*)(@#$'ers don't deserve the worst we can throw at them. but do keep in mind that we have a considerable number of homegrown criminals that far outnumber any "imports."
65gtoman Offline
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How is this story anti-Latino b.s??

its reporting the facts.
Cavallo Offline
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i'm not saying that THIS STORY is anti-latino b.s.

i said that i caution turning it into that. and there are those who WILL turn it into that and go on an "all latinos are criminals and illegals" kick.

just a word to the wise, bro.
Charlie Offline
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I do not believe we will see lynch mobs chasing all Latins, Mexicans, Latin Americans or whatever, but the ones who violate the law and violate the citizens should be dealt with and not ignored!

Sorry I am not among the PC crowd and see no offense in "illegal ailens"....call it what it is!

Charlie
Cigarick Offline
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70-95% of violent crimes in Los Angeles is committed by illegal aliens.
tailgater Offline
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We've all heard the liberal cries.
We all know that when White America says "Illegal Alien", the liberal only hear "all Latinos".
This thread proves it.

Please give America credit. We CAN tell the difference between a hard working immigrant who deserves to be here and the criminals who sneak over the border.

We're not the one's blurring the line.
It is the liberals who are too afraid to offend anyone.
Including the law breakers and scum who thrive on our bleeding hearts...
xibbumbero Offline
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An incident that happened a few years ago in Sandy Eggo county sparked much controversy. It seems three teenage girls(white) said they had been kidnapped by some Mexicans and sexually molested. Incidently one of the girls father was a Sheriff. The Sheriff's rounded up all Mexican/Latino looking males. They rounded up appoximately 100 Mexican/Latino males. Including high school students on their way home. All were handcuffed and taken to jail for a lineup. After some further questioning of the girls,it seems that they lied about the incident and had ditched school. No appologes were ever offered by the Sheriffs dept. X
Cavallo Offline
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i'm an ex cop. i'm not afraid of busting those who have committed a crime.

i have also heard far too many conversations where any latino in sight was talked up as "another damn' illegal" by my oh-so-smart white brothers.

"Please give America credit. We CAN tell the difference between a hard working immigrant who deserves to be here and the criminals who sneak over the border."

yeah? you see a latino walking down the street -- since you "CAN tell the difference," then enlighten me. how do you know if he's here legally or not?

really, i'd like to know, because i don't have that kind of x-ray vision.
tailgater Offline
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Don't be so naive.
We're not talking specifics, we're dealing with generalities.
Who knows about that lone Latino walking down the street? Or, more aptly, who cares? It's simply NOT the issue.
If we want to deal with "individuals", then the original thread is 100% non-offensive and 100% valid: "3 illegals beat a woman and her daughter".
We're talking about ILLEGAL immigrants.
Yet you cry that we are somehow lumping in the LEGAL immigrants simply by stating a fact about the illegals.

We need to stop this bullsh*t.

Why can't we talk about REAL problems without unrelated individuals being offended?
I guess we should just sit back and ignore it, since we wouldn't want to offend anybody.

In the words of the immortal Sgt Houlka, "Lighten up, Francis".



65gtoman Offline
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"another damn' illegal" by my oh-so-smart white brothers.

Who on this board are you talking about, I been on this board for some time, and im not aware of any racists on here.

Why are you always making a race issue about these topics?

Nobody here ever made such a statement as to say all Mexicans are illegal, if they did please post the thread.

Who are the oh-so-smart white brothers?


If I was Mexican could I post these topics without some implying im a racist?



http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=983

Racial Double Standards
by Walter Williams (July 30, 2001)

Summary: I don't believe white liberals are racists in the sense that Klansmen and neo-Nazis are, but their paternalistic vision, preconception and attitudes are far more debilitating to black Americans than today's Klansmen and neo-Nazis.

65gtoman Offline
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65gtoman Offline
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65gtoman Offline
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who are the oh-so-smart white brothers? and why do you think that they are white in the first place?

i mean, with the amazing powers of observation you have -- powers so strong that you can tell what race a person is just by there typing.

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Cavallo Offline
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65gto: sorry for not answering this sooner. i'm disabled and have spent the past 2 days confined to bed.

you asked: "who are the oh-so-smart white brothers? and why do you think that they are white in the first place?"

first, let me apologize. none of you know what was going on in my head when i read this story, so let me tell you.

the oh-so-smart white brothers i had in mind are a group of a half dozen men and women down at a local restaurant who, while watching the news on the television in there, went off like rabid wolves about the "damned meskins" and how we should "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out" etc.

about that time a man who apparently looked latino to them came in to pick up a take-out order. they burned holes into that guy with the hate in their eyes. the guy's hand was shaking by the time he gave his money to the cashier.

you know that "all hell's about to break loose" feeling? if you've been in a bar before a fight breaks out, maybe you do. if you're a cop, maybe you do. but the tension in there was so thick you could cut it with a knife.

the guys who watched that news show DID translate "illegal aliens" into "any random latino." they were not limiting their anger and ire at the actual criminals -- they had some random guy looking like he was about to pee his pants with fear.

and that's a shame.

anyway, i am not referring to anyone in particular on this board. thanks for asking for clarification, as i wasn't clear about who i meant with that comment. hopefully now you can understand a bit why i wrote what i did.

gto wrote: "i mean, with the amazing powers of observation you have -- powers so strong that you can tell what race a person is just by there typing."

i don't assume for a second to know the race or ethnicity of a single soul on here, and racism doesn't just come in one color.
tailgater Offline
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Stay away from that restarant.
Sounds like bigots and fools dine there.
Present party excluded, of course.
Cavallo Offline
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that's why it chilled my blood, though, tailgator. i used to go to this place for lunch all the time. know the waitresses and many of the patrons by name -- hang out there and shoot the breeze. these are guys who, if someone out in the parking lot had a flat tire, would race out the door to fix it for them. there are patrons and employees there who are black and white, and i've never seen even a HINT of "racial tension."

and then this. blew me away.

anyway, i get out of the house maybe 1-2 times a month these days, so i don't hang there now. after what i saw, i've no desire to either.
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