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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted:
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http://www.newsday.com/ny-kerry0215,0,1445946,print.story?coll=ny-top-headlines



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Cavallo Offline
#2 Posted:
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rick: i have a suspicion that the "kerry's intern affair" thing is just as made up.

if he did it, shame on him. but as the only "evidence" so far has been one muck-raker's say so, i'm certainly not convinced.

btw, i'm not a fan of kerry and he doesn't have my vote (no one does yet). smear campaigns just tick me off -- whether the target is john kerry or gw bush.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#3 Posted:
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The muckraker(Matt Drudge)was told that the Kerry campaign would "implode" due to an intern affair by Gen. Wesley Clark.
Cavallo Offline
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DMV: so says the muckraker :) but no one else is reporting that.

like i said in another post, it could well be true -- and if it is, i fully expect to see it all over the place. but right now the only place making those accusations is matt's report.
Robby Offline
#5 Posted:
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No, I've seen reports about it on ABC, but it was reported as "suspicions" and Kerry's response that the allegations were "unfounded". Does this sound familiar? "I did NOT have sex with 'that woman' Ms Lewinsky. I did not tell anyone to lie, not once." Sound familiar? Has a familiar ring to me... I can't quite put my finger on it...

Face it, he’s a dirt bag. When it comes out that he did it, the position by people who now claim they don’t believe it will be that they now believe it, but it doesn’t matter and they don’t care. So since that’s that, belief is somewhat “immaterial”.
Cavallo Offline
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i've been actively looking, robby, and the only mainstream media report is that the DRUDGE REPORT SAYS that kerry had an affair. nothing else. and all that adds up to right now is a rumor.

look, i have no reason to believe it or not believe it. i'm no kerry fan, and i'm not going to vote for the guy no matter what.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Almost every NY and DC paper ran this as a front page story.


The television networks were quiet, although ABC News radio (2/12) mentioned the story yesterday afternoon. Meanwhile, local TV across the US reported the allegation extensively. For example,

KTBS-TV Shreveport, LA (2/12, 10:00 p.m.) reported, "A bomb-shell was dropped on Senator Kerry today."

KABC-TV Los Angeles, CA (2/12, 6:00 p.m.) reported, "There's a report on the Internet from Internet gossip columnist Matt Drudge that John Kerry, the front runner, has had a problem with an intern in the past, perhaps an affair."

KDAF-TV Dallas, TX (2/12, 9:28 p.m.) referred to the story as a "bombshell rumor."

WBAL-TV Baltimore, MD (2/12, 11:11 p.m.) reported, "The Kerry camp is preparing a response."

WBTV-TV Charlotte, NC (2/12, 6:00 p.m.) reported, "Scandalous rumblings tonight inside John Kerry's campaign."

WSYX-TV Columbus, OH (2/12, 5:05 p.m.) reported, "Matt Drudge broke this bombshell on his website."

WTTE-TV Columbus, OH (2/12, 10:11 p.m.) reported, "The Democratic frontrunner -- some say he had an affair with an intern."

KRQE-TV Albuquerque, NM (2/12, 10:00 p.m.) reported, "Is John Kerry about to be caught up in a scandal?"

Various UK press outlets splashed the report on Friday.

The UK TIMES placed it on its front page -- in the lead position.

The UK SUN claims to have found the name of the woman in question, even interviewing her parents.
DrMaddVibe Offline
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004072203,00.html

The ketchup is gonna hit the fan and somebody's gonna maim someone before the night is through. Somebody's gonna maim someone, nothing we can do.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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my choice would have been dean. in my mind a clear departure from the standard politician. much like carter. except, i believe not as naive as carter, who was screwed by the regan group with their iran BS, comonly refered to and documented as the "october surprise."

someone here mentioned clark, but he is out.

that leaves kerry, an orangutan, a goat and two rabbits running and not in any particular order.

i will vote for any one that will get bush the hell out, along with ashcroft, cheney, and the rest of the rats that have infested the ship of state.
Cavallo Offline
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and again, all those stories are reporting that DREDGE SAYS. they're not reporting on the issue, but on the rumor that's been loosed upon the internet. there's a difference.

WHEN i see stories focused on KERRY, not DRUDGE, then i'll consider it to have some teeth. :)
DrMaddVibe Offline
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The last link I posted doesn't even mention Drudge!
CWFoster Offline
#12 Posted:
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Back to the original object of the post...
Who cares if Jane Fonda was there or not? KERRY WAS!
DrMaddVibe Offline
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Two peas in a pod.

They were mature enough to know what they were doing. Both of them had counsel around them to "giude" them and they chose their own paths.

It's comical to see a Kerry campaign stop. He bolstering tells everyone that he's a decorated war hero, and that Bush is really Darth Vader but only he can see it, and that he holds the keys to every problem, but he'll turn them over to the UN for "safe-keeping".

It only takes a couple of minutes to do hard research on any of the candidates. Look up their voting records. What do they stand for, and what have they voted for/against. Do they even bother to show up to vote for their constituents?

Instead what I see is a blinding hatred for the current President. An "anything but him" mentality that didn't serve this nation well when Carter was voted in. I like the tax cuts. I like the fact that terrorists are being rooted out. I like the fact that we have a President that says he's going to do something and DOES it. It's been awhile since we had one of those. Do I like everything he does, no. I take the majority of the things he's done versus anything the Keystone Cops want to do. Repeal tax cuts? I want to hear out of someone that thinks THIS is a good idea! When has the government spent your money better than you?
Cavallo Offline
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dmv: you're right; my bad about the last posts you mentioned. but the UK SUN? ;)

seriously, i'm content to wait for this to come out in the major media. if there's any teeth to it, it will. if not, well, i'm not voting for the man either way. *shrug* just one more politician trying to climb up to the throne any way he can.
Cavallo Offline
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DMV: you're right on it (in my view) with the idea of folks voting for "anyone but him." i used to go with the "lesser of two evils" mentality, but no more.

i appreciate my right to vote, and i've done so since i turned 18 years old -- i was PROUD to vote back then.

i missed one presidential election -- i refused to vote for clinton for a 2nd term, and i couldn't justify voting for dole then either (now i just might vote R for the first time if he was running).

i think we can do better than we've been doing. bush has good and bad points; clinton had good and bad points. but where are the GREAT candidates? where are the ones who make you WANT to get out there and vote?

you know, when clinton first started running for pres., i thought "this is going to be the beloved JFK type of my lifetime." there is NO ONE more disappointed in him than me. so much for a democrat president who was going to lead our country into being the brightest beacon of light in the world. yeah, right.

anyway, it saddens me that we're left with candidates that we have to try to JUSTIFY. it shouldn't be like this, guys! we should have presidential candidates who are AWESOME human beings and who don't have to be argued about in the muck and mire of the internet based on who has the least slimed reputation or the least muddied record.

where's that candidate?
CWFoster Offline
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DMV- I have taken exception to some of your posts, but to this one I say AMEN! Bush isn't perfect, but some of the alternatives out there (including the front-runner) scare me!

Cav- Don't hold your breath for the mainstream media to hurt the chances of the liberal frontrunner! Bush was asked whether he had used cocaine, and because he chose to refuse to dignify that with a reply, the press pilloried him for "not denying" it! Some of the press may be owned by conservatives, but it is controlled at the editorial level by liberals. If you want proof, look at two stories. The first is the "lack of gravitas" issue (or non-issue) that surfaced in the 200 campaign. That word, "gravitas", had only appeared twice in ten years worth of news stories according to the Lexus-Nexus service. Yet it got thrown around by at least twenty pundits within a week! (tell me there isn't a Democrat playbook!) Second, all at once about a month ago, many of these same pundits were going on about Dean giving "the greatest stump speech". This didn't last as long, due to the infamous "Shriek speech". But you get my point!


but what do I know? I'm just a babykiller!
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