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Cavallo Offline
#1 Posted:
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for you literatti out there (and i KNOW you're there), read any good books lately?
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
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Balance Your Body, Balance Yur Life - Dr. Edward Taub
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#3 Posted:
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Balance Your Body, Balance Your Life - Dr. Edward Taub
Cigar_Fiend Offline
#4 Posted:
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I have actually started reading Don Quixote. Complete and Unabridged!! All 1050 pages of it. The only reason I have started reading it is because I did some research on the Sancho Panza line of cigars and wanted to learn more about why they were named for him. I am currently only on page 153, the start of chapter 16.

I also bought a box of SPDM Quixote's to accompany my reading. Great idea huh?

-Chris
Cigarick Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-28-2002
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The Da Vinci Code. Page-turner!
Homebrew Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2003
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On the lighter side, I have been reading the Callahan Chronicles, by Spicer Robinson. Great series.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted:
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When I took a public speaking class I talked about Cigars. Here it is...it was designed to inform the novice and provide details that might be missed by the new to the leaf club. It scored me an A.


Before Guavaween and Gasparilla, Ybor City was affectionately known as “Cigar City”. At one point in its rich and diverse history, it boasted 120 companies that called Ybor City their home. According to “The Immigrant World of Ybor City” , it was in one of those cigar factories that the patriot, José Marti spoke of a desire to liberate Cuba from Spain. He started the independence fight with the money donated in those cigar factories.

Cigar smoking is a culture unto itself. The names of many famous brands can be directly linked to the fine job that the Lector performed. The Lector would sit on a square raised platform and read aloud a famous book. The Lector was a rotating job that encouraged reading; some of the better Lector’s used animated hand gestures to act out the famous works. Romeo Y Julietta, was taken from the works of Shakespeare. Montecristo, from “The Count of Monte Cristo”, by Alexandre Dumas, Sancho Panza was Don Quixote's sidekick. These novels and plays transported the rollers and packers to far off lands and romantic adventures replaced the daily mundane work of hand-rolling cigars.

In order to appear knowledgeable, one must know how to cut a cigar, light it, and finally smoke it. Magazines devoted to rating these and raise public awareness to them are Smoke and Cigar Aficionado . Tampa even hosts a nationally syndicated radio call-in show called “Smoke This”. Cigars are named into groups, depending on their size, where they're made, and the tobacco leaves used. Knowing this impacts how a connoisseur would cut it. After paying top dollar, the last thing an aficionado would do is ruin it by not understanding the steps necessary to enjoy their premium cigar.


According to Perelman's Pocket Cyclopedia , cigars are broken down into groups. There are several categories of cigars classified by their shape and size. These are the most common names, and knowing that makes the decision of which cutting tool to use easier. The Churchill, named after Winston Churchill himself who made the cigar one of his trademarks, measures 7 inches by 47-ring gauge (refers to the measurement for the diameter of a cigar). The Torpedo, is a cigar that’s oddly shaped. It features a pointed head (like a cone) that flares out with a bulging body and usually has a closed foot. This popular cigar type is usually a 6½-inch long cigar with a ring gauge of 52. The third most popular type of cigar is called The Robusto. This is favored by those that want to enjoy a cigar, but don’t have sufficient time to spend smoking it. It’s a much shorter cigar that measures 5-inches in length and has a 50-ring gauge. This style is expertly crafted and formed with a neatly shaped head and trimmed foot.

Now that the size and style of cigar is chosen, it’s time to pick the proper cutting tool. Each cutter performs a different task, and cannot be used on every cigar. Each cutter offers a different draw, and most times it’s a personal preference or a desired result that imparts this decision. The most common cutter is a guillotine cutter. This device is a single or double bladed instrument that chops the head of the cigar. Before cutting, bring the blade down towards the cigar just enough to tap the cigar. This ensures that the blade is positioned properly and aimed at the right spot on the cigar. The proper spot to cut is right where the cap of the cigar meets the wrapper. It’s important to leave sufficient space to ensure that enough of the cap is left surrounding the wrapper. This will prevent it from unraveling and falling apart. The punch cutter seems to be the easiest to use, but it cannot be used on all styles of cigars. This device is used by gently pushing and using a twisting motion with the enclosed circular blade. With using enough force it’s possible to ensure a perfect circle opening in the cap of the cigar. The last cutter type is the cigar scissor. This is not the same kind that is used to cut paper. This tool is specially designed for cutting cigars. The manner in which this tool is used is similar to the guillotine cutter. Leave enough of the cap so it won’t unravel.

The cigar is cut, and now it’s time to light it. To the novice this is an easy task. They would use any match or a common lighter to light it. The decision to light a cigar is as important as the type of cut made on a cigar. Using a normal match could leave a bitter ammonia-like taste, and using a Zippo style lighter would ruin a cigar with a lighter fluid taste. The most common ways to light a cigar are with butane lighter, wooden matches, or with cedar wood strips. When using one of these three methods, it’s important to use the same technique. Take the cigar in your hand and light your flame. Slowly rotate the cigar in your fingers as you lightly toast the tobacco on the foot of the cigar. Try not to let the flame touch the foot as you rotate the cigar in your fingers. Put the cigar in your mouth and continue to light as you rotate the cigar, gently puffing in every few seconds. When the cigar is lit, remove it from your mouth and look at the foot to make sure it is burning evenly. If it isn't, you can gently blow on the foot causing it to ignite the tobacco, which is not burning, or you can re-apply a flame to that area.

After the cigar is lit, it is time to enjoy it. The most pleasurable way to enjoy a cigar is to remember never, ever inhale the smoke. Inhaling cigar smoke has brought more than one person to their knees in a coughing agony. Those that smoke cigarettes usually make this mistake. Draw enough of the cigar to taste its flavors. Each region has a specific taste. Some have fruity and spicy undertones that tantalite the tastebuds and others have a creamy, buttery smooth taste that lasts on the palette. The manufacturers use master blenders to bring out the rich tobacco flavors. These people are highly knowledgeable, and keep their recipes a secret. Their talent in choosing the right amount of filler and binder leaves and aging can keep a company in business for decades.

It’s important to remember that one needs to devote time to this endeavor. This is a time for monumental relaxation. An adult libation or a friendly game of cards goes hand-in-hand with this pastime. A premium cigar can cost in upwards of $45.00, and take as many as 5 years to reach a local Tobacconist. Why ruin the cigar and its heritage by puffing hard inhaling it’s strong smoke? Relax, and enjoy a book. Strike up a conversation with a fellow cigar aficionado. Chances are that new or stronger friendship will be made. There are many brands out there that appeal to the cigar novice all the way to the seasoned cigar lover. In today’s era of political correctness it’s unwise to enjoy a cigar just anywhere. There are cigar stores and clubs where one can seek refuge from the non-smoking broods. In some of the most upscale restaurants there are even designated cigar rooms complete with walk-in humidors and specialized ventilation equipment to ease the most allergenic of people. The cigar fan has received more unjustified bad reactions due to cigarette smokers and their constant harping of “smokers’ rights” than any group deserves. Enjoy being a responsible member in The Brotherhood of the Leaf, but also know that others will always despise that “filthy habit”.



Bibliography
1) The Immigrant World of Ybor City by Gary R. Mormino and George E. Pozzetta
2) Magazines – The Cigar Aficionado and Smoke
3) Perelman's Pocket Cyclopedia by Richard Perelman
4) Cigarweekly.com and Cigarbid.com – internet forums and information sites.


chipslave Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 06-19-2003
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I am reading for my CCNA exam and it is not very exciting... :( But for fun reading I am finishing up Fast Food Nation. A great book. Takes an interesting view of fast food from field to table... If anyone wants to read it after I am finished, send me your snailer to:

cigar at 702com dot net

DrMaddVibe Offline
#9 Posted:
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7 layer model

subnetting

Routing vs. router protocols

What do you mean not exciting!
penzt8 Offline
#10 Posted:
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I read a book once.
chipslave Offline
#11 Posted:
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DMV...

I will be looking to you for help on this stuff ;) I will make your inbox explode with questions... LOL
drnos Offline
#12 Posted:
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Chris: I started Don Quixote sometime last year after I read that a survey of the greatest living authors named that book the 'greatest novel of all time.' I find it pretty slow going, but actually funny in parts.

I just finished 'Two Years Before the Mast,' and absolutely loved it. It covers a part of California history that fascinates me: the early 1800's when the Californio's were not really Spanish, not really Mexican, and not yet American.
THL Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 10-22-2002
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"Lies My Teacher Taught Me", James Loewn. It's pretty good when he can stay off of his soapbox.
Liz62803 Offline
#14 Posted:
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re reading Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - after that I'm going to attempt to read the LOTR series - so far I've only read the Hobbit - haven't gotten into the books - when it comes to depth like LOTR - I much prefer the visual of the movies - but then again the books give so much more detailed backgrounds and the like than the movie does - I might just end up waiting till I see Return of the King and then read the books. I really enjoy reading true crime books - hope to one day write a fiction novel about a serial killer - getting into all the police background work that they have to do - the psychology behind catching one - the thought processes the killer has, and reading about them is the research. Just like when I wrote my novel (that I ended up losing when I left it behind in Vegas and I thought someone would send it back to me when I sent them the money to send it back to me which I did and they didn't) on the mafia - read a lot of true mafia books for the research. speaking of writing I got to get back into gear with that *sighs* well now that I've rambled long enough - ttfn
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
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all at the same time. a little of this and a little of that.

the complete idiot's guide to the life of christ.

from their mouths..... quotes from right wing radio hosts.

an abe lieberman detective story by s. kaminski.

flatterland, sequal to flatland, and a bitch to read.

and a bunch of stuff i downloaded and printed from last night, which seems to be only a few hours ago.
kornazoo Offline
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Joined: 12-03-2003
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"Redneck Manifesto" by Jim Goad....He dares to tell the truth about American History, takes on government greed,tears into white liberals,and cuts through the taboos that prevent an honest discussion of race in this country. This book is in your face,and as subtle as a sledgehammer..Required reading for those brave enough...
Lowman Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 12-03-2002
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Right now...

Cat & Mouse... James Patterson

Low
Sylance Offline
#18 Posted:
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I’m reading the fictional book, Crisis Four by Andy McNab. Some of you may know him to be the author of Bravo Two Zero, a non-fictional book telling the story of a British SAS team behind enemy lines in the first Iraq war.

This guy knows his s*#t, and is fun to read. He goes into details that make the book seem very authentic and at the same time interesting. I recommend.
Seth Gekko Offline
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A couple of Robert Asprin books.
Liz62803 Offline
#20 Posted:
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hiya Low....loved Cat & Mouse! James Patterson is a good read. Read a lot of his books when I was an assistant librarian a few years ago.

Clive is trying to get me to read Tom Clancy - he's got a lot of his books.
HarleyDave Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 03-10-2003
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Dante's Divine Comedy Trilogy. Just finished Inferno, and started Purgatorio.
Liz62803 Offline
#22 Posted:
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Patricia Cornwell is another great read and of course Stephen King - and if you like series type novels and mysteries Sue Grafton is good - she has an alphabetic type thing going on, not sure what letter she is up to now - I got as far as N is for Noose - good wise cracking female private investigator series.
rastusmcnair Offline
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The latest Tom Clancy just for fun. I just finished "The Time Travelers' Wife". It was excellent. Not a hokey SF book as the name might imply but a very engageing love story of sorts.
MACS Offline
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Book 10 of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. Excellent books.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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kornazoo

thanks, i just ordered at half.com
mkraus47 Offline
#26 Posted:
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Hey Mac, good choice. I love those too. I am also reading these..

Emperor The Gates of Rome - Conn Iggulden
A clash of Kings - George RR Martin (Best fantasy series ever)
Wicked- Mcguire
Shadow Warriors- Clancy
Holy Blood, Holy Grail- Can't remember the authors.
Cavallo Offline
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liz: i'll know who to give my true crime books to now. :) i just gave away a bunch of 'em, but i'm sure that more will be excavated.

have you read ressler's If You Fight Monsters?

right now reading some of barry hannah's short stories. been on a short fiction kick lately. also have been reading the stuff at www.mcsweeneys.net, which i HIGHLY recommend for a good sardonic read.

and all the while my own novel's getting nowhere. :P
CWFoster Offline
#28 Posted:
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I used to be a voracious reader, now all my time is consumed reading posts on bulletin boards! :(
E-Chick Offline
#29 Posted:
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I actually just received 3 new books...I only go for the nonfiction, how-to, self-help, spiritual type books.

Just can't get into novels very easily. Although a few years back, I did enjoy Tuesday's With Morrie, The Pilot's Wife, and Where The Heart Is...

NOT that *I* need them, but, hey, any old dog can still learn a few new tricks ;) The 3 books are:

My sister in law just gave this one to me Sunday...

1] The Sexy Years - Discover the Hormone Connection: The secret to fabulous sex, great health and vitality, for women and men by Suzanne Somers

And I just got my order from Amazon...

2] Talk Sexy to the One You Love - and Drive Each Other Wild in Bed by Barbara Keesling, Ph.D.

3] The Ultimate Guide to Fellatio - How To Go Down On A Man and Give Him Mind-Blowing Pleasure by Violet Blue (lol)

I'll let you know how it goes.............Marla
MACS Offline
#30 Posted:
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E-dude is in for an experience... WTG e-chick, keepin' your man happy. GOOD GIRL!
Liz62803 Offline
#31 Posted:
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awesome Cav!!!! please do send them my way if you find anymore!!!!! I need all the help I can get writing my novel. I just signed up for a crime writing email group to try to get some advice etc.
rastusmcnair Offline
#32 Posted:
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Have You true crime fans read John Douglas's books?
He supervised for many years in the FBI's old Behavioral Sciences Unit.
Lowman Offline
#33 Posted:
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What's the name of it ??
Liz62803 Offline
#34 Posted:
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love reading about the FBI's BSU - my main character in the book I'm going to be writing shortly is going to be from the BSU :-)
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#35 Posted:
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MACS(SW) -

Don't let E-Chick pull the wool over your eyes ... she only get the books to look at the pictures .... :-)
Cavallo Offline
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rastus: skimmed once, but i haven't read his stuff much. apparently he and robert ressler have a kind of animosity thing going on -- ressler's the FBI guy who is the "father" of FBI profiling; he started the unit and all.

his book, Whoever Fights Monsters (always get that wrong. doh!) is all about how that all came to be and also gives some great insight into profiling in general, cases he worked on, etc.

i guess in january of this year he gave a one-day seminar on profiling at the prince william campus: "Through The Eyes of a Profiler; a One day Seminar for Students." would have liked to have caught that.

anyway, he's got five books out in total -- you can read excerpts from them at: http://www.robertkressler.com/

i'll have to check out douglas' stuff and get his POV now. :)
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