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RDC Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Mar 26 2004, 3:56 AM EST
Joined: 01-21-2000
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Kerry does not like off shore companies: Oh Really??

Just came across a bit of information regarding Kerry and his claim of the Bush administration sending jobs abroad. Well, it seems that the Heinz Corporation, owned by Kerry's wife, has 79 plants where it manufactures products and 57 of the 79 are located in countries outside of the U.S. How many U.S. jobs are lost here???

Factories located at: Taipei,Taiwan (makes Heinz baby foods), Dublin, Ireland; Paris, France; Dovarmenez, France; Lisbon, Portugal; Madrid, Spain; Milan, Italy; Monguzzo, Italy; Athens, Greece; Warsaw, Poland; Pudliszki, Poland; Wodzislaw, Poland; Miedzychod, Poland; Moscow, Russia; Georgievisk, Russia; Cairo, Egypt; Tel Aviv, Isreal; Haifa, Isreal; Elst, The Netherlands and 6 other plants there; Brussels, Belgium; Dusseldorf, Germany; Seesen, Germany; Turnhout, Belgium; Rovereto, Italy; Chateaurenand, France; North York, Ontario, Canada; Wheatley, Ontario, Canada; Caracas, Venezuela; San Jose, Costa Rica; Johannesburg, South Africa; Gaborone, Botswana; Harare, Zimbabwe; Cheguta, Zimbabwe; Wellington, South Africa; Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; Republic of Singapore; Auckland, New Zealand; Tokyo, Japan; Guangzhov, People's Republic of China (makes infant cereal); Qingdao, People's Republic of China (makes infant foods, ketchup, mayonnaise & puree); Inchon, South Korea (makes Heinz products and StarKist); Bangkok, Thailand; Mumbai, India; Jakarta, Indonesia; Surabaya, Indonesia; Manila, Philippines; Wanchai, Hong Kong. Also recently purchased from Bordens these products: Classico Pasta Sauce; Aunt Millies Pasta Sauce; Mrs. Grass Receipt Soups; Wylers Bouillons & Soups.

Think of the conflict of interest a President would have who's wife owns business interests in all of these countries and others.

Do you believe that ALL those working in the factories overseas get the SAME pay and benefits as those here in the 50 states? That is what he is advocating
IF he were to become President!
rd2thbn Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Mar 26 2004, 4:41 AM EST
Joined: 04-28-2003
Posts: 205
"Taiwan (makes Heinz baby foods)"

If this is correct, how would you feel about feeding your baby food made in Taiwan? It's doubtfull I'll buy any more Heinz products (yes, I am that partisan), but if so, I'll take a long look at the fine print on the label.

To your point, I think ketchup makers and every other person that shows up for a job (any job, regardless of skill level, educational requirements, etc... or the country they live in) deserve a "living wage" (by US standards) and it should be mandated by government that they get it. If every worker in the world earned $20 an hour, imagine what that would do for the world economy and our standard of living.

Ketchup for example, would probably cost $8 a bottle. Underwear (cheap briefs) $20 a pair, sneakers $300 a pair, etc.... Wait, would we really be better off?
Homebrew Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Mar 26 2004, 4:57 AM EST
Joined: 02-11-2003
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Just a question,
How many of the Heinz plants produce products for local, where they are produced consumption. I have no problems with opening a plant in Tiawan, if what is produced there, is sold there. It is when products are made, by American companies, over seas, for import back to the US market. If it is for overseas consumption no problem.
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. I am not standing up for Kerry, just curious.
penzt8 Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Mar 26 2004, 5:51 AM EST
Joined: 06-05-2000
Posts: 1,771
I think you're right. The majority of the products are for local consumption. And every major company does it. It would be impossible to produce most of these products in the US and be able to ship and sell them at a profit in an overseas market. Can you imagine what a bottle of US produced ketchup would cost in the Philippines? It would never sell because they can produce their own at a cheaper price.

I've lived in and visited half a dozen countries. Their shelves are stocked with american brands (everything from coke and pepsi to johnson baby powder) but they are mostly made in their own country.

The question is, where do the corporate profits go? And the answer is, right back here to the US and to anyone else who happens to be a stock holder.

You can't have it both ways. So we've lost 2 million jobs in the past 4 years (about 4-5% of the workforce). The other 95% of the working population is benefiting by lower cost of goods and higher returns on their investments. The job market changes and people just have to adapt.

dbguru Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Mar 26 2004, 7:09 AM EST
Joined: 03-06-2002
Posts: 1,300
Another attack dog distortion du Jour....
Oh no... French.... I could be slammed for that too!!
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