Jim, you are stepping him into the big time price catagory with those suggestions(all are great)but actually a Padron 3000 would do the job for less price. Henry Clay Robusto, Hoyo de Monterry Excalibur #3, La Gloria Cubanos, Punch Robusto all for considerably less than Ashton VSG and CAO (both are wonderfull )for less investment. Oh, I won some Sinatra Robustos that are mighty powerfull, don't know what happened to these but wham they have a kick ass delivery-not normal to Sinatras or Felepe Gregoros. Charlie