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What is your definition of Terrorism?
usahog Offline
#1 Posted:
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DB, Months possibly even well over a year ago I posted this same topic.. I am not going to do a search to pull it back up.. at the time I posted it. it did not get very many hits.. but to address your thread IE:
http://www.cigarbid.com/...ageDisplay=0000000023146

one must know what everyone else's definition of Terrorism really is.. how do you (Forum Members) perceive what it means??

Hog
DrMaddVibe Offline
#2 Posted:
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An attempt to undermine confidence. An abrupt change in the way anyone conducts their daily business. Anything that gets under the skin enough to make you look over your shoulder, anything that makes you question if you're safe.

That's my answer.
CWFoster Offline
#3 Posted:
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OK Hog, I'll play! I think a terrorist is a tactitian who targets defenseless civilians solely for the sake of targeting civilians to strike fear in the hearts of them and through them influence the actions of their goverment (the perceived enemy). There can be a VERY fine line drawn between the actions of our own country and terrorists. We created a firestorm over Dresden and Frankfort in the Ruhr Valley of Germany in WWII in an effort to cripple the Nazi war machine. We were NOT however trying to strike fear into the populace, but rather trying to curtail the production of ball bearings without which airplanes, guns, tanks and other equipment necessary to wage war could not be made. The civilians just happened to work at the factories where they were produced, and were "collateral damage". I for one do not condone the attack on the USS Cole, but at least they were attacking the US military, and not several thousand innocents who were doing nothing even indirectly threatening to Al Queada. I look at my ID card and see I have a "geneva convention category" listed on it. I beleive that makes me a 'legal target' for someone who has an axe to grind with the US. I can deal with that, I knew that the enemies of my country would want to eliminate me when I raised my hand and took the oath. But to see cowards bypass the "complaint department", and go straight for the men, woemen and children that I'm sworn to protect, that makes my blood boil! The North Vietnamese showed how effective a guerrilla campaign can be against a traditionally organized force. But even they did not travel into our own land and kill our women and children. Yes, we have traveled to foreign lands and killed women and children, but we were not TARGETING them. In the first Gulf War, Saddam tried to keep his Scud launchers in close proximity to bomb shelters full of civilians, daring us to take them out. Whose fault was that? But there were no primary targets in close proximity to the WTC, the field in Pa. or the Pentagon (not a base, just a big office building) no direct threats, just defenseless, helpless targets. So I think that the practice of targeting innocents with no military value pretty well distinguishes the terrorists for us. I am glad they are so ready to meet God, I'ld like to introduce as many of them to Him as possible!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#4 Posted:
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i define terror as the murder of civilians to attempt to gain one's political objective.

it doesn't work. civilians usually do not become fearful, they become aware of the danger and they lose any interest in what the terrorists political agenda happens to be.

in spite of the history that terrerosim doesn't like the stupid, slimy minds they have, terrorists continue the murders because they think they will accomplish something.
xibbumbero Offline
#5 Posted:
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My wife yelling at me for buying too many cigars. X
dbguru Offline
#6 Posted:
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terrorism
From Britannica Concise

Systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective.

It has been used throughout history by political organizations of both the left and the right, by nationalist and ethnic groups, and by revolutionaries. Although usually thought of as a means of destabilizing or overthrowing existing political institutions, terror also has been employed by governments against their own people to suppress dissent;
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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#7 Posted:
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dbguru

"employed by governments against their own people to suppress dissent"

not here in the good old usa where all the women are strong, all the men are good looking and all the children are above average
428cj Offline
#8 Posted:
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I'm with Rick on this one. Terrorism to me is targeting civilians to get a political point across.

To me here the original point might be very valid, but as soon as civilians are targeted and attacked it's all irrelevant. Targeting innocents is just plain wrong, period.
dbguru Offline
#9 Posted:
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Interesting Rick... Gave Britannica'a definition a bit of thought on that one too. Under such a deinition you wonder how much falls under the terrorism umbrella.

But then you get back to what this thread is

What is YOUR definition....

Apparently there is a pervasive attitude among many that you can define anything the way you want it... Language hijacking I call it.
usahog Offline
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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted:
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dbguru

may i quote me
"i define terror as the murder of civilians to attempt to gain one's political objective."

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