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Storing a box of cigars
rem_MrSoprano Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 06-28-2001
Posts: 47
I just bought a box of Fuente Hemmingway Classics. I have a pretty nice humidor but it's maxed out right now. How long could I keep my box of Hemmingways fresh if I just keep them in their original box and in a cabinet which stays pretty cool? I don't have a basement but my cabinet stays around 65 - 70 degrees and is obviously away from sunlight. I'm not sure what the humidity is naturally in my house but it's probably 50% or there about.

I obviously don't want to ruin my expensive smokes. Any suggestions?
BJLM1970 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 11-04-2000
Posts: 86
Your best bet is to do a search of the boards you will find some of these guys using old coolers and tupperware containers that they have converted to hummidors for large storage probably easier to controll the temp and humidity than in your cabinet. Personally I have never used either method but I have been told they both work well, don't letum dry out dry smokes suck!
jjohnson28 Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
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Most cigar shops sell small humidifiers that you can put right in the box.some are recharge-able,some you throw away after 30-60 days.Email me at [email protected] if you can't find one. Jim
Charlie Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
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Steal one of your wife's tupperware containers, they work as well as a humidor. I have two really nice humidors and still use a couple of the "borrowed" t-ware containers. Charlie
rem_MrSoprano Offline
#5 Posted:
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Okay, so suppose I go the tupperware route, should I also include a damp sponge or some humidification device? I have one of those tubes that you can fill with tap water and the crystals fill up allowing for optimal humidity. Could I just put that in the box with the cigars or should I put it in with them in a tupperware dish?

I read once that if you buy a new box of cigars sometimes it can be good to store them in a cool damp place rather than pack them into your humidor. You guys don't think this is a good idea?
Slimboli Offline
#6 Posted:
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I did the once ... and only once. My cigars in a very short time were covered with mold.. If you do, put it in for no longer than a week, then take it out, and check it every few days or so. A sealed tupperware container is pretty tight, and doesn't lose very much moisture ...
Charlie Offline
#7 Posted:
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Good point on the tuperware...it is airtight, and if you do use a humidification device (and you should) take it out for a week or so and then put it back in the container for a few days and so on! Charlie
joedayan Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 04-19-2001
Posts: 261
be careful of a tuperdore. Like they say over humidity is worse than dry. You can always slowly rehydrate cigars, but cigars with the band bursting and the seams cracking are ruined for life.
jjohnson28 Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 09-12-2000
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MrSoprano truth is I'd get yourself a small cooler say 32-34 qt. wal-marts got some for like $10 or so.I've got an Igloo 54,hell there like $20 everywhere right now or just get one big enough to hold that box + a couple more(cause if you hang out here you'll need it,LOL) but still fit in your cabinet.Send me your mailing address and I'll send you a chunk of florists foam and some 50/50 mix(propylene glycol and distilled H2O)so you can make your own humidifier.E-mail me your address at [email protected].....Oh BTW I've never tried a Hemmingway Classic before....Really LOL.Later,Jim
Slimboli Offline
#10 Posted:
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I disagree Charlie ... once you have used the humi-device once, you never need to put it back in. My cigars have gone about 6 months now (the ones in the tupperware) and they are fine. It's funny how people will comliment me on how well I keep my cigars, and it's usually the ones from the tupperware ...
tailgater Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
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I'll vouch for Slim's ability to maintain cigars. The care package he sent me was in top shape. But I must add some insight, because I am a know it all. The propylene Glycol is amazing. It really does absorb a certain amount of moisture when humidity excedes 70% (RH). If your tupperdor tends to run high, don't use 50/50 PG and distilled. Instead, up the PG % to absorb the excess, yet release it when and if it's needed. Bottom line is to monitor the cigars regardless of how you keep them.
rem_MrSoprano Offline
#12 Posted:
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So no one here thinks the box will be okay just in my cabinet? I won't mention the competitor's name but one of the "big boys" in the cigar business puts out a catalog and this month it mentioned that sometimes when you get a new box of cigars you should store them in a cool damp place instead of popping them into a humidor. This was my line of thinking with the cabinet since I don't have a basement.

Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the tips and may even go the igloo cooler route.
unklebill Offline
#13 Posted:
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The retailer you are speaking of ships their cigars very wet. Cigars from there do indeed need to be dried out, or set-up. I concur with the Igloo-dor. Walmart or Sams has very economical coolers for $15-$20. They seal well and can accommodate several boxes.

You can use a soap dish with holes drilled in the top, and an unused sponge with distilled water as a humidifier. Even better would be to pick up some propelyne glycol at your pharmacist and mix it 50% with distilled water. This will maintain a perfect %70 humidity. You can also get a hygrometer from your local tobacconist. Radio Shack has fancy digital hygrometers and so do many WalMarts. The point is to monitor the humitidy, even if you just pop the hygrometer out of your desktop and place it in your cooler for a couple of hours to make sure it is o.k. Tupperware works good also. Just make sure it has a good seal.
sellnmony Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2000
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70 degrees is not cool and 50% humidity is not damp. I would just go out and buy a cheap humidor and fill it. You could even buy the Lone Wolf jar and use it as a humidor, you even get some extra smokes in the deal.
wanyburger Offline
#15 Posted:
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the operative phrase is cool and damp. He's right if you have both of those attributes then your cigars will survive without a humidor. The question is do you have a room in your house that maintains 65-70% humidity? If not you do not have the damp end of the equation. This is why we all have humidors. I have a few igloodors and they work fine. I keep the cigrs in the original boxes and pop them in the cooler with a block of oasis foam. I like to open the small little drain valve to promote some sort of air circulation. My rig hold 73% for over 2 months without a recharge.
rem_MrSoprano Offline
#16 Posted:
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Okay, I picked up a 28 qt. cooler and some econofoam bricks from the crafts department. The bricks are pretty big, about 4" cubes. I also have some solution mixed in a bottle that I bought a year or so ago. I probably have 2 ounces left. Now, do I put just solution in the brick or solution plus water? And how much should be about right for a 4" cube? Once I get that done I just put it in the cooler in a dish and include the boxes, right?

Sorry for so many questions but I've always had plenty of space in my humidor. I've never had to go this route.

Thanks for all the help so far!
jjohnson28 Offline
#17 Posted:
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Well for that size cooler your not going to need that big of a brick.I'd say cut off about a 1/2 inch piece,now you've got a 4x4x1/2,put that in a piece of tupperware/rubbermaid dish.You can drill holes in the top if you want or just leave the top off.The 2 oz should be plenty to start with,and it's probably a 50/50 mix already right?Just put it on your foam
you don't really need to saturate it.Thats it.Just keep checking the humidity every couple days for a while and let us know where you at humidity wise that is.If it gets to high take the humidifier out and trim it down a little.Good Luck
Charlie Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
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Slim, interesting about using the humidifier at first and then not putting it back in tupadore or tupperware. I have one with Maduros in it and I have not put the thing back in it and they are better than the ones out of my other humidors. I was wondering if this was a freaky deal or what. Thanks.....learn something daily out here, not always good stuff but very useful-as in this case! Charlie
rem_MrSoprano Offline
#19 Posted:
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Thanks for the advice. I have everything in place so now I am going back to Wal-Mart to get a replacement battery for my digital hydrometer. I know with a new humidor it can take weeks to get up to 70% but since the cooler is air tight and solid it shouldn't take that long should it?
rlprofant Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 02-18-2001
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Slim's a master cigar conditioner. They're in far better shape than any retailer has them around here. Most are much too wet.
rem_MrSoprano Offline
#21 Posted:
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After only a couple of days the temperature is steady between 65 and 75 degrees. The humidity is stuck around 67% but maybe that will bump up too in a day or so. So all in all it looks to be working pretty well in the Igloo cooler. I've got a digital hydrometer inside and I'm checking it daily.

Thanks again guys for all the advice.
jjohnson28 Offline
#22 Posted:
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67% is just fine.65%-70% is my personal target.Well Done :0)
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