Sure Rick, but the guy adressing the graduating class of 2004 seemed very cynical. Accurate on many points perhaps, but cynical. His address might as well have told them that it only gets worse from here, your fellow man has no redeeming qualities beyond what you have a gun to his head for, and if you feel like you really wamnt a family, you're going to end up hating them, and being hated. Why didn't he go ahead and advocate suicide now, before it's too late to die happy? Maybe the liberal mindset that the average joe is a stinker without any morally redeeming qualities, who needs the government to make him do what is right, and even take his money and do right on his behalf, because he can't be trusted to do it on his own makes sense to you. I personally think most people are basically good, and will try to take care of one another where they can, without being forced to. Case in point, the outpouring of contributions to the families of the 911 victims! I choose to beleive that my fellow man is basically good, until he or she proves otherwise. The liberal mindset is that we are all inherently wicked and require a strong government to keep us from forming lynch mobs to string up the unfortunate starving wretches we've created by paupering them! I think one viewpoint is largely as ludicrious as the other, but I always seem to get lumped in one group for not supporting the other. I am NOT a blind supporter of Bush, but I DO think he's alot better for the job than Kerry, or anyone else the Democrats have offered up to oppose him. But since I don't toe the liberal line, I'm labeled a "neo-con" and accused of "blindly following my leader". This is another example of the elitest thinking exhibited by the liberal left. As opposed to your cut and paste, (which some liberals have berated some conservatives on these boards for, showing yet more hypocracy) does this answer YOUR questions?