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Feeling Burned out
Homebrew Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
Maybe it is because I am sick, head cold, but I am feeling burned out. I have been working in the resturant buisness for a little over 20 years. I started as a dishwasher, and quickly worked my way up to bartender, gift of gab. I really enjoyed bartending, but the culinary arts pulled me back into the kitchen. I did kitchen work, for around 7 years, working my way into the kitchen managers position. After a few years of that, I was moved into a resturant managers position, which I held up until 3 years ago, a few months before I found cbid. During this time, I was able to complete a college degree, Major sociology, and a minor in Biology. After Graduation, I realized that I enjoyed resturant work, much more than I could possibly enjoy social work. I stayed with the resturant buisness. But I also started analyzing my job, trying to discover what I enjoyed about it, and what other careers I might be qualified for, that would be as fulfilling as the resturant work. I figured out that there were three things I enjoyed about resturant work.
#1. It was the people. I really enjoyed meeting people, and trying to make their resturant experience a great one. As a bartender, I could be a patient ear, and a bit of a comic. As a cook, my boss calls me a chef, I have enjoyed the response, when a customer really enjoyed a meal I had prepared. Living, and working, in Arkansas has given me the opportunity to suprise people, especially tourists, with dishes which they would not expect to find, in the middle of nowhere. There is nothing like the feeling of satisfaction a cook gets, when customers rave about their signature dish, Mine is Salmon Parmesian, being the best they have ever had. Instant gratification.
#2 The opportunity to create. The resturant buisness, is a great creative outlet. Coming up with promotions, new dishes, and problem solving, are fun and can result in great things, such as my signature dish.
#3 The social atmosphere. I really enjoy people, as well as my quiet time alone. In the resturant buisness, I get both. In the resturant, I try and create a festive atmosphere, through lighting, music, and the cheerful staff. As a manager, I worked hard to make sure my staff was cheerful, knowlegeable about the products, and knew how to sell everything, from drinks to the main course, and of course desert. My first instruction, to a new waiter, Bartender, or even busboy, is to treat the resturant as if it were your living room, and you are entertaining a bunch of your best friends. If you have a crabby customer, treat them as if your best friend was having a problem, and you want to solve it. I have found that this instruction has been great at both keeping the customer happy, and creating a cheerful atmosphere in which to work.
I am currently mulling over a possible career change, as I have decided that 20 years in the resturant buisness is long enough. I have been thinking along the lines of public relations, though I am not sure that I am qualified for anything more than entry level. I have thought about Route Sales, especially food service related, and that seems to be the most obvious choice. But I have also thought I would do well in a job that required travel, such as telecomunications installer, after a couple of more courses. Since I have no family to worry about, travelling for work and being away from home for weeks at a time, would not bother me in the least.
Sorry to ramble on, but I was just wondering, if there was something, that might appeal to me that I have not thought of. I have always gone for jobs that I enjoyed, for less dollars, than one that I would hate, for the big bucks. I am used to long hours, many times back to back 14 hour work days, and I even enjoyed alot of them.
Any Ideas Guys???????
What am I missing here???????
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
P.S. The above, was typed under the effects of NyQuil, so if it seems a little strange, take a dose of nyquil, and it will all make sense.
LOL
Homebrew Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
By the Way,
Here is my signature dish, simplified for the noncooks, who want to WOW their wives, or significant other.

Homebrews Microwave and toaster oven Salmon Parmesian

Ingrediants needed
Salmon Filets
Half LBS Butter (Margarine will not work)
3Table Spoons Dry Dill Weed
1/2 cup Margarita Mix (A Tart one, Like Jose Quervo)
A Bunch of Shreaded Parmesian, not the powder type, unless you are not trying to impress her.

Equipt Needed

Microwave oven
Toaster Oven, or Oven with a broiler.
Corning ware dish, you know those white ceramic looking dishes with the blue flowers, or a glass pie pan will work.
Spatula.
Disposible Aluminum pie pan
Take your Parmesian Chees, and make a paste, using real Mayonaise. Just enough Mayo, to hold the cheese in a firm paste, more cheese than mayo. This paste will be used, later.


Melt your butter.

Add dill and Margarita mix, and heat, in the microwave, until mixture is hot. Place your salmon Filet, in the mixture, and use your spatula to splash some of the mixture over the salmon. Place back into the microwave, and microwave on high for between 4 and 5 minutes, depending on the microwave. When the red, has turned to a pale pink, it is done. Remove from microwave. Use the spatula to transfer the fish, not the liquid, into the disposible pie pan.
Take the Parmesian paste, you made earlier, and spread it onto the top of the salmon. Stick it into the toaster oven, or under the broiler, and toast the cheese, until it is nicely browned, Remove from the toaster oven, and put on the plate. Lightly dust the top with a little dried dillweed, for a garnish.
Also as a Garnish, you can use a Lemon.
Cut the lemon crossways, to make it into "Wheels"
Slit one side, as if you were going to put it onto a tea glass. Take each side of the slit and twist in opposite directions, and place the twisted lemon on top of the fish.
Hope You Enjoy
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
hat Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 03-22-2004
Posts: 782
Homebrew,
I am a route salesman for a major food service distributor. My story is similar to yours. My e-mail is alan dot hatfield at usfood dot com.

Drop me a line & we will visit. Maybe I can help you.

Hat
xibbumbero Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2002
Posts: 12,535
HB,I have no easy answer for you,however,I can say this. Try every option you've mentioned,one at a time until you hear the bell ring. You may also find that being away from the restaurant business for a spell may make you realize that you miss it. Me,I was a FF for 30 yrs and I learned the culinary arts(so to speak),learned to deal with people,the FF schedule was perfect for me and the job was very fulfilling. Good luck. X
johnfs Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 01-01-2003
Posts: 2,993
Many different aspects to PR, promoting, damage control, media realtions, plenty of travel. My gal is in PR has done well in the feild, good enough for me for me to leave the print trade(which was starting to tank my health) to be a fulltime papa.

She started out in sales, than took her skill into a very small PR firm, that colapsed due to a death. Brought the clientel from there to another company.

Tons of pressure and stress, not for everyone.

J
hdking Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 10-12-2003
Posts: 1,155
how about
a D.J. @ the local topless bar.
a job you could enjoy.
then you could guest D.J. at different locatoins
to add a little travel to the new job.

hdking
Homebrew Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
I Like the way HDKing thinks.
LOL
Later
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
Cigarick Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 07-28-2002
Posts: 3,078
Wow, thanks for the recipe! I have a neighbor who won't tell what he marinates his chicken in, but the exec chef at the cafeteria at work will give you any recipe you ask for.

Dude, you have the coolest job. I rank cheffery on a creative level along with composing or writing. Is there any more gratifying feeling than to have somebody close their eyes and swoon over something you have created?

Maybe you need to get out of the management end of things. What about catering, or teaching? A guy I work with hosts a big 4th of July party every year and has a different chef come in and cook up a bunch of food. I know I could do better than most of them! With all the interest in culinary arts these days, classes through adult ed or even through the restaurant could be fun, too.

If I had known how much I would love cooking when I was younger, I probably would have become a chef.
nealep Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 07-14-2004
Posts: 519
Dave,
I agree with Cigarick. I think that catering would be a fantastic way for you to use your talents. You could be absolutely creative in the kitchen and still use your vast management skills and knowledge to run and promote the business. In addition, if you have your own kitchen facility, you could do some classes for those who want to learn better food prep & dishes.

Your recipe looks great. Unfortunately, my wife doesn't care for salmon. I make a chicken marsalla that is really great though, which she pretty much swoons over. She says that she would rather eat my dishes than go out to a restruant.

Best of luck in your endevers, and let us know of your decision(s).

Neal
nealep Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-14-2004
Posts: 519
BTW, you can reach me at nealep_04 at yahoo doc com
Thom Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 12-08-2003
Posts: 6,117
Wow. Job analysis through a forum. Tough call, but here it goes.

Just by what you have written I suggest something in the sciences. Sociology, biology, cooking, are all sciences. There is a great book called "What color is your paracute" that helps you determine what carreer fields you would be best suited.

Editorial Reviews

Amazon.com
For nearly 30 years, What Color Is Your Parachute? has been the guiding light for those in pursuit of satisfying and fulfilling employment. This year's edition has been completely revised and rewritten and is designed to work in conjunction with the book's Web site. At the heart of Bolles's formula for finding the right job are two questions: What do you want to do? Where do you want to do it? Answer those and you're well on your way to finding the job you really want. Packed with time-tested advice, What Color Is Your Parachute? works as a good companion for those just starting out in the "real world" as well as for those who are thinking seriously about a career change. --Harry C. Edwards

Good luck.

P.S. I can't wait to try your recipe on some fresh Pacific salmon.
Homebrew Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 02-11-2003
Posts: 11,885
Thanks Thom,
I just ordered the book. I am not in a hurry, to change jobs, but would like to before the winter. As the place, where I work, slows down, before the holidays, and doesn't crank back up, until April. I think I would like the catering buisness, but really want out of the resturant buisness. I would really like to reserve cooking, for fun, rather than making a living that way. The management part, is the only stressful part of my current job, but stress is not the issue. I am just looking to make a change. I love to give my recipes to friends, and up until this thread, the Salmon Parmesian, was my only "Secret Recipe." This was posted, to symbolise my dedication to a career change. Thanks for all the responses.
You guys are great.
Thanks
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)
00camper Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 07-11-2003
Posts: 2,326
I could teach you about municipal finance and send you on the road...

marty @ public-finance . com
JustDanD Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 02-27-2003
Posts: 748
Can't help on the career change, Dave. But I will certainly try the recipe. My wife loves salmon.

I worked several jobs in my time depending on my interest. First automotive, then military, then computer hardware. I finally found my niche in the database development field and can't imagine doing anything else.

Go for your dreams while you can.

Dan
JustDanD
Cavallo Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 01-05-2004
Posts: 2,796
dave -- gave the recipe to sara; she loves salmon, too. thank you!

i second reading What Color Is Your Parachute. very good book for just your situation.

i have worked in many fields in my life -- law enforcement, journalism, academia, corporate management, HR, dj-ing, factory work. my only "rule" was that i would stick with a field until i had become proficient enough and knew it well enough to TRULY know if i did or didn't care for it. i've always found, too, that no matter how diverse the fields, the skills of one always transferred well to other things. for instance, knowing how to deal with people served me well in the classroom, in the cruiser and in the suit-and-tie world.

while i have no concrete suggestions, the one advice tip i'd give is to not be shy to TRY something on. if you like it, stick with it. if not, move on -- and hopefully take those additional skills with you.

well, okay, one job suggestion -- if you want to stay food connected: how about teaching others to cook? this could be in a culinary place, as part of a community college program or even out of your own space, giving private lessons.

even if where you go from here has nothing to do with cooking, you could still offer private lessons or teach a comm. college course from time to time if you want to keep your skills sharp or stay in touch with cooking.

whatever you decide, though, all the best to you. you deserve every happiness.
Da-Glyde Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 10-25-2003
Posts: 892
Dave,

You need another wild 2 girl night like you had a few months back....

GIG'em
wildmustang Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2004
Posts: 43
Homebrew, we tried your recipe this week. It was great!!! Easy to fix and the cheese melted on top adds a new twist to the salmon. I normally grill it dry with spices but this way it was much more moist.

This is diffinitely a must try. I can see why you are a chief. So simple but good.

Thanks for sharing.

WildMustang
rayder1 Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 06-02-2002
Posts: 2,226
P.R. is more than just being good with people. My wife had a B.S.degree in History and Rhetoric. She entered the media relations world almost 18 years ago as PIO for a local Police Dept.

After 12 years she moved up to be the Media Relations Manager for the county. After 2 years there...she moved into the private realm as Public Relations Manager of a major hospital.

A lot of people...even myself..thought that you can be a great communicator and be able to make it in PR. You find out fast that you end up spinning your wheels.
Solid contacts...developed through many years of direct media work...make's one sought after.

If you have the patience to create a new career...just remember it takes time.
iqbal Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 05-13-2004
Posts: 1,450
hb - i have been in the industry for about 20 yrs. know the feeling. i tried to get out but just couldn't due to the same reasons you wrote about. food rep, F&B director are just a couple of sugestions. you have FOH & BOH exp. you should be able to find something. if you wnat to chat e-mail me at [email protected]
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