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It all comes down to Cain and Abel
usahog Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
I just watched a video on "Return of the Ancient Spirts" I've read allot of books trying to understand the Islamic religion and why they feel the way they do about America and or any nation that does not believe as they do in their religion... this is not a Democrat Vs. Republican issue/thread

this video/preachings from perry stone brings out something that would wake up many... www.perrystone.org
I visited his website and did not see this perticular video on there... but I can make copies and send them out to anyone who would be interested in viewing it...

usahog at hotmail dot com...
JonR Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
Posts: 9,740
Yo Hog:

islamic religion is easy to understand: " Death to all Jews and Infidels (Infidels = All that don't worship the koran).

JonR
usahog Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
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Yep, know that one Jon...

but this video goes on to break it down as to why.. and how far back it goes and how close it has come full circle... very interesting...

I've been telling the wife and others... I'm a GWB supporter and want to see this administration finish the Job in Iraq and on the War on Terror... But gut feelings are telling me this is not going to be the case come November... Sad and I hope my Gut is wrong.. but 99.8% of the time its never been...

Hog
JonR Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
Posts: 9,740
Yo Hog:

Trust me this is going to be one of your 00.02% times. G.W. will prevail, I feel it in my gut and my gut feelings are correct 100% of the time.

It doesn't matter how far back it (hatred of Jews and Infidels) goes, what does matter is, it will never end. I'ts a disease that will never be cured.

JonR
Gene363 Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,838
Hog,

You are correct; they want to end our civilization.

If you can, read Bernard Lewis' book, "What Went Wrong: Western Impact and Middle Eastern Response"

From the net:

Book Description

For many centuries, the world of Islam was in the forefront of human achievement--the foremost military and economic power in the world, the leader in the arts and sciences of civilization. Christian Europe, a remote land beyond its northwestern frontier, was seen as an outer darkness of barbarism and unbelief from which there was nothing to learn or to fear. And then everything changed, as the previously despised West won victory after victory, first in the battlefield and the marketplace, then in almost every aspect of public and even private life. In this intriguing volume, Bernard Lewis examines the anguished reaction of the Islamic world as it tried to understand why things had changed--how they had been overtaken, overshadowed, and to an increasing extent dominated by the West. Lewis provides a fascinating portrait of a culture in turmoil. He shows how the Middle East turned its attention to understanding European weaponry and military tactics, commerce and industry, government and diplomacy, education and culture. Lewis highlights the striking differences between the Western and Middle Eastern cultures from the 18th to the 20th centuries through thought-provoking comparisons of such things as Christianity and Islam, music and the arts, the position of women, secularism and the civil society, the clock and the calendar. Hailed in The New York Times Book Review as ""the doyen of Middle Eastern studies,"" Bernard Lewis is one of the West's foremost authorities on Islamic history and culture. In this striking volume, he offers an incisive look at the historical relationship between the Middle East and Europe.
bloody spaniard Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
Of course this demonic/patchwork religion wants to destroy all non-muslim cultures- beginning with the western. So what else is new?

It is the pc, naive elements of our society that think it is ONLY extremists muslims who want to destroy us. Well, they'll give us a chance to convert first, otherwise, they'll torture us to death slowly.

Hog, your premonition is probably correct.
You know that dubya is in trouble when you have long-term conservative Republicans like me who have voted for Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Dole, Keyes, Buchanan, Pat Robertson, and even BOTH Bush'es- voting for Kerry this time.

It's not so much that we want Kerry in, as much as we want Bush FIRED (reasons are too many to enumerate here)! The fact that he has avenged us is not enough. There is more to this man than meets the eye. *End of story*
Sorry JonR, better get ready...

blood
donutboy2000 Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 11-20-2001
Posts: 25,000
Kerry will turn the US military over to the UN. That will solve all of our problems. Why don't we surrender now?
adroomi Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 05-10-2002
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...I live in a country that is well over 90% muslim. Nobody is trying to destroy me (I don't think anyway). In fact most are pretty nice to me. As to trying to convert us, then destroying us if we don't convert, thank God (whoever she is) that us Americans would never do that (especially to the Native Americans).....
bloody spaniard Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
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^ Adroomi, that's nice that they leave you alone.
But will they let you practice your faith openly and without restrictions? If you do, you must living in one of the most tolerant muslim countries in the world.

From your extensive travels, you must realize that in most of the middle east (from Saudi Arabia, Lybia, and Egypt to the Sudan)you cannot publicly proselytize or display ANYTHING with a non-muslim connoitation (Bible, crucifix, Star of David, etc.). In addition, muslims who convert to Christianity are usually ostracized, tortured, and or murdered. The majority of religious riots in places like Sumatra and India have also been sparked by muslims, not by Christians or Hindus.

Sorry to paint such a bleak picture of a "tolerant" religion/culture which extends from Albania to China.

blood
EI Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 06-29-2002
Posts: 5,069
And Muslim don't follow a time frame.
They will destroy
our culture from within. It may take 50 years it may take 500 years. Hell they got time. Within 10 years our PC crazed country will be electing radical muslim exstreamist as congress"persons" and senators just to show how nice,and tolerant we are.Thats the foot in the door they are waiting for.
My bet is that they will be running as democrats, and have the support of the unions
bloody spaniard Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
EI, they did it in Lebanon (the former "Riviera" of the middle east). Now, they're hoping to recreate that "miracle" in Michigan. LOL

Good luck to the Democrats...well they already have Farrakhan.

Have a great day.

blood
EI Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 06-29-2002
Posts: 5,069
Blood, Don't forget Patterson NJ
adroomi Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 05-10-2002
Posts: 10,143
...maybe we could start some sort of "subliminal" campaign against the terrorists, to make them work in our favor? We could somehow (through the net most likely) convince them that huge populations of people live in Northern Arizona, and that one of our great cultural landmarks is the Glen Canyon Dam. Then maybe they'd blow it up, and in reality end up saving the Grand Canyon for us! There's a whole lot of things that they could do "for" us, if they were misinformed.
JonR Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 02-19-2002
Posts: 9,740
Yo adroomi:

Paul Johnsons beheading at "ogrish.com". NOT FOR THE FAINT AT HEART OR THE SQUEEMISH !!!!!!!!!!!

Those ragheaded pieces of crap improved on the clarity of the video but not the sharpness of the knife.

However lets not blame the "good" muslims, you know the ones that know where these pieces of crap are but will not turn them in, or the ones in the USA that raise money for their causes.

Believe me given the right time and place all "good" muslims will behead a Jew or Infidel, you can take that to the bank.

JonR
bloody spaniard Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
Hey Jon, tell brother Adroomi to clam up on politics & go back to posting photos.

They're among the best on the net! Hey Adroomi, get with the program. You're wasting valuable time. Many of us married farts wanna know what you're up to! LOL!

*chin tickler (soul patch) on or off?

blood
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