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Bob Dole Notes Media's Sudden Interest in Military
usahog Offline
#1 Posted:
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Bob Dole Notes Media's Sudden Interest in Military Service

LMAO...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/8/25/154108.shtml
Former GOP presidential nominee Bob Dole appears tonight on MSNBC's "Scarborough Country," and we have obtained a transcript. Highlights:

Joe Scarborough: Now I want to ask, you've been through one of these presidential campaigns. You know what it's like on the campaign trail. Are you surprised, as a guy who is a war hero, that John Kerry's war record is playing such a central role in this presidential campaign this year?

Dole: Well, I am a little surprised because I remember in '96, of course, Clinton didn't have a record and the liberal media didn't want to say much about my record. So it never really became - you know, I guess the New York Times may have said I was a veteran; that's about as far as they went.

So this time you've got a candidate named John Kerry who had a good record in Vietnam, came back from the service, denounced the war, in effect, trashed the Americans who were still fighting there. Went before a Senate committee in April of 1971, threw away his ribbons or his medals or whatever and now is standing before the American people and saying you've got to elect me because I'm this Vietnam hero.

And it's kind of hard to reconcile all of these things. So it does sort of bring up focus that I don't think we've had in the past.

Scarborough: Senator, let me ask you a more general question along these lines. Do you think it's important for a president to have a war record or to be a veteran?

Dole: I don't know. I was asked that in '96. You know, I said, well, I think I learned a lot obviously being in the service. I think if I'm John Kerry I'm proud of my service. Some days he's proud other days he's denouncing his service. But I was proud of my service. I thought people were proud of my service.

But it's a very fine line you walk when you're standing before a crowd of 5,000 or 6,000 people to make a speech because out in that audience there are going to be a lot of men and women and mother, father, whatever, who make not have served or may not know much about service in World War II, Korea, Vietnam.

And so you don't want to go out there and say, you know: "Vote for me. I did this, this, this, this, this. I got all these medals. I got all these Purple Hearts."

I think you can do it in a different way, and I think - heck, I sent a signal. John Kerry's a friend of mine. I sent a signal about two or three months ago on television, "John, back off. You know, cool it. Don't make the Vietnam War the centerpiece of your campaign."

But he's got a problem, because he spent 20 years in the Senate and doesn't have much to show for it.
[end of excerpt]

Of course, like Dole, former President G.H.W. Bush did not tout his heroic military service either, and the media sure didn't. But then, some candidates can run on issues and political records that don't need to be hidden.

what burns me about this is Kerry's way he tossed out his Military history and portrayed himself a Hero and pushed this issue in his Campaign bid for office.. and now that his fellow Veterans 200+ of them are hot on his a$$ for his actions against them and this country... he's crying to Bush to stop this and has no balls to go after these men who he refutes as being truthful

Lets face it.. the Dems picked them a (L)oser this time round...

Hog
uncleb Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 11-13-2002
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And as they round the turn, it's a two loser race. Who will hit the wire first. It's loserbush, but loserkerry is coming up on the outside. It's loserkerry, now loserbush. At the wire it's loser.................
usahog Offline
#3 Posted:
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Bush by a Long Shot... ;0)~~~

who's running for the dems when Kerry Implodes?? is there still time?? can they find someone who doesn't have a self portrayed image as the one they have now??

this inquiring mind wants to know....

I want someone in Office who will "Keep this War on Terror off the American Soil.. I want a person who wont send our men and women to fight and then cut everything around them off as to not get the job done (Clinton, I lived it 8 long yrs) I want someone in office who will stand up to the UN and these other country's and let them not brow beat us down and walk over the policy's in place... I want someone in office who has a moral and ethical sence around them and makes America not a laughing stock.. but a powerful nation when viewed from outside the window.. (Clinton Decimated this view) in other country's we were a laughing stock with him in power.. how do I know this?? because I was in many country's and spoke to the locals and the top of their conversation was Hahaha your president clinton...

Sad.. what kind of rebuttle do you give this?? 1.. a hang your head and drink more beer rebuttle.. because you cannot refute what had happened and how it was viewed by forigners...

Hog
uncleb Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 11-13-2002
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Yea, we're viewed in a much better light now around the world.

Much like a horserace, you have your blinders on so you can only see your narrow little view of the world.
CWFoster Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 12-12-2003
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You're right Uncle! the rest of the world liked us SOOOOO much better when they could bend us over anytime they wanted to!
GYPSY Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-02-2004
Posts: 276
YEAH, They like us so much that they flew a few of our planes into a few of our buildings killing a few of our friends and family. Guess it's good to be loved huh?
tpottiger Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 04-30-2004
Posts: 1,176
Okay, I am not one for discussing politics, if I were not so bored to day, I wouldn't even be reading this...

I may be young, and not as "worldly educated" as some of you... You do realize that the people that planned the attacks of September 11th, 2001 WOULD HAVE DONE SO REGARDLESS OF WHO OR WHAT PARTY WAS IN OFFICE!

THESE PEOPLE HAVE A DEEP SET HATRED FOR EVERYTHING WE, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, STAND FOR. I LOST 343 OF MY "BROTHERS" THAT DAY, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF THE PLAN. THE PEOPLE THAT PLANNED THE ATTACKS KNEW THAT THERE WOULD BE TIME FOR THE EMERGENCY PERSONNEL TO RESPOND, AND THAT WAS A WAY TO UP THE NUMBERS.

NO ONE CAN HONESTLY SIT ON THEIR FAT ASSES AND SAY THAT KERRY COULD HAVE DONE BETTER HAD HE BEEN IN OFFICE. NO ONE CAN HONESTLY SAY THEY WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER THEMSELVES.

In my eyes, some of the comments I have seen here and on other forums are almost on the same level as theirs. To tell someone they are damned, wrong, or unjust because of their beliefs or the way they vote is like the 4th grader telling the third grader he is stupid because he can't play a game as well as the older kids.


I hope I didn't wear out my welcome on this site with my rant, but RICK did ask for more people to speak their mind. I plan on doing so on election day, and I hope you do as well.
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