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Sylance Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 8:55 AM EST
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LOL...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,130231,00.html

John Kerry, speaking at a Martin Luther King Day celebration in Virginia last year, said, "I remember well April 1968, I was serving in Vietnam, a place of violence, when the news reports brought home to me and my crewmates the violence back home, and the tragic news that one of the bullets flying that terrible spring took the life of [Dr. King]."

That date was April 4th, 1968, but according to Kerry's own Website, it was not until November 17, 1968, that he reported for duty in Vietnam.
Charlie Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 9:20 AM EST
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Typical of the big buffon!

Charlie
Charlie Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 9:28 AM EST
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Oh, nobody on Major Media will pick this gaff up, but if it were GWB.........LMAO

Charlie
snowwolf777 Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 10:11 AM EST
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I was in the 'Nam with Kerry in '68, too. Granted I was only 8 years old, but who's gonna check that out?
dbguru Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 1:14 PM EST
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How petty!!!
bloody spaniard Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 1:25 PM EST
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^ How succinct.

So the guy's a liar- what's your point?
So is Bush. He's just a better liar.

You fire one liar and replace him with another.
That's the American way these days. The electorate seems to love liars. Candidates, who speak the truth from the heart, rarely get elected.

C'est la vie.

blood
Sylance Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 1:40 PM EST
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I wasn't really making a point about his lie... I was making point about how he brings up his Vietnam days any chance he gets. His speech writer probably spent hours trying to figure out how to get Kerry’s Vietnam history in a Martin Luther King speech and this is the only thing he could come up with.

I find it funny… I’m sorry you all didn’t. I love the “Bush does it too!!” remarks though.

snowwolf777 Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 2:09 PM EST
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Yes, whatever you do, don't point out that he has lied and embelished at every turn his 4 months in country. Christmas in Cambodia, shock at MLK's assination. On and on.

Yes, we're all petty. Why don't we just get off it?

Oh, I know why. Because JFKerry decided to make 4 months in the 'Nam the centerpiece of his bid for the White House. Because 3/4 of the people in this country would wince if they saw his sorry far left voting record for his time in Congress. So he has to keep himself planted firmly in the past and try to make that the reason we should put him in the White House in 2004. It gets rammed down our throats at ever turn, but don't you dare question it.

"The electorate seems to love liars. Candidates, who speak the truth from the heart, rarely get elected"

As usual, Bloody hits it on the head.
Charlie Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 2:37 PM EST
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Pretty harsh calling GWB a liar, as he is not a liar, only one who believes his intelligence reports from all of the different agencies.

Blood, if you like to have a liar as your leader, I am sorry for you my friend! Kerry will stoop to all means to speak to representative groups. My God, who doesn't remember where they were when JFK was killed, MLK, Bobby Kennedy, when Reagan was shot, when the Berlin wall came down, etc? I am sure JfK was first to strike the Berlin wall with his hammer! LMAO

Charlie
bloody spaniard Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 5:19 PM EST
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Charlie:"Blood, if you like to have a liar as your leader, I am sorry for you my friend! Kerry will stoop to all means to speak to representative groups."

Charlie, I despise ANYONE who lies repeatedly. I can understand some white lies (Am I fat? Am I ugly? etc.). The problem on this forum is that Kerry lies but Bush is "misguided"...Bush is basically a one-worlder like his father and probably like Kerry. They BOTH "brown nose" the muslim world, the illegals, and the corporations. The difference is that Bush has a lousy track record as a President ALREADY. I don't know that Kerry will be any better & he could be worse but I'm banking that he won't be. Especially with a "corporate-jouster" like Edwards at his side. At least Edwards knows what it's like to work your way up from humble beginnings. He understands the struggles of the working man better than either of the aforementioned elites.

I used to be an extreme idealogue who stood by my Republican leaders through thick & thin, but no more. The harsh realities of a faux economic recovery, a never-ending war being fought for the wrong reasons and on pc terms, plus unecessary entitlements given to corporations and to the rich, makes my blood boil. Let's try to close the borders, take away enticements for outsourcing our industries/jobs, and allow some of the other countries to shoulder part of the cost to rebuild corrupt societies. That's just part of what some us "paleoconservatives" want.

The world is angry at us. Part of it is jealousy. Part of it is justifiable due to our "ham-handedness" in the world stage.

Let's worry about weeding out the terrorists/enemies within the country and rebuilding our industrial base before we take on the problems of an ungrateful world.

I'm tired of seeing our BEST die for the ambitions of corrupt/misguided politicians.

blood
Cavallo Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 5:47 PM EST
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amen, blood. amen.

i'm tired -- at this moment -- of halliburton getting handed multi-million dollar contracts so they can a) cheat our treasury, b) lie about it and c) give SUBSTANDARD goods and services to OUR TROOPS because hey, they've got friends in the white house. that's just one more reason why i want bush et al OUT of this country's white house. is kerry better? that's very much up for debate, but i will NOT stand by and vote for these criminals to STAY IN!

and yes, bush IS a criminal -- that isn't a bash; that's a fact.
usahog Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 7:11 PM EST
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Cav, I just hope you pray before you vote..

Hog
MACS Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Aug 26 2004, 10:15 PM EST
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2 things people should just agree to disagree on: Religion and Politics and hog just put them together in one sentence.

I'd like to take this opportunity to say that ALL politicians, including both parties, in office or campaigning for office... can kiss my military @ss.

Period. End of discussion.
Herr Rabbit Offline
#14 Posted: Fri, Aug 27 2004, 6:25 AM EST
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Ahh, Haliburton. Has anyone mentioned that they built much of the Iraqi infrastructure years ago? The fact they still have the plans in their files? The fact that there are one of only 3-4 companies in the world that can do such work on this massive scale? One of the others is French?

Famous war profiteer in Haliburton stock. HAL took over the old Brown & Root years ago. A continuing major, major stock holder is that Famous, greedy, war profiteer: Lady Bird Johnson.

Oh, and George Soros sold the dollar (buying Euros) when the war was about to start so he could make outrageous profits off it. I expect NPR to expose this any day now;).

grond Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 2:36 PM EST
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"The world is angry at us. Part of it is jealousy. Part of it is justifiable due to our "ham-handedness" in the world stage. Let's worry about weeding out the terrorists/enemies within the country and rebuilding our industrial base before we take on the problems of an ungrateful world. I'm tired of seeing our BEST die for the ambitions of corrupt/misguided politicians."

ROFLMAO!! "ham handedness!" Blood... you are such a trip!! We give billions of dollars to the world and yet it is never enough. When the U. N. needs something fixed... they come to us for the cash... not the help. We are uniformly hated because we have a system that works and puts our poorest strata's standard of living higher than most other country's higher strata.

I, for one, think it may just be time to cut off the tap. Let the world fend for itself and see how they do without the United States to knock around. We have the resources and the people to make this happen... if only we were a united people. Neither W or Kerry is going to bring about unity in the country. I'm afraid the only thing that will do that is another horrible catasrophe.

Cheers,

grond
bloody spaniard Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 4:31 PM EST
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Nice to see you, Grond.

"Ham-handedness" pertains to our diplomatic wherewithal not the $$$ that we throw at the UN or the rest of the world.

We are forced to choose between an EMPTY SUIT and an EMPTY UNIFORM- both of which are corrupt, inept, and unwilling to face the real problems.

You can "LMAO" all you want but we will eventually have to face the catastrophic consequences that come with these two empty windbags. Problem is that one of them has to be fired. Let's fire the idiot whose party brought a self-serving, Clinton boot-lick, Ron Silverman, AND a muslim iman to perform the invocation at the Republican convention.

Dubya already has a track record. How often can you accept a proven mediocrity's claim that he has "taken on terrorism" before you realize that there many more issues. Besides, his claim to fame is an empty Trojan horse which will become readily evident when the bloody terrorists crossing our porous borders strike.

Keep your powder dry, Grond, if you want to keep laughing that ass of yours off.

blood
gerilynnwood6680 Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 5:24 PM EST
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there is much that can be said regarding both presidential candidates but one man summed it up pretty well back in 1973-"politics is like a pyramid. at the two bottom corners you have the republican and democratic parties. they handle small stuff-monetarily, that is. highway departments, boards of education, things like that. but when you look at the top of that pyramid, you see that in reality there isn't a dime's worth of difference between republicans and democrats. they're all out to see what they can get from you!
CWFoster Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 6:17 PM EST
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Blood, you said "Dubya already has a track record. How often can you accept a proven mediocrity's claim that he has "taken on terrorism" before you realize that there many more issues." Well, Kerry has FIVE TIMES the track record of Bush! Why don't you think he's running on that? Could it be the total failure of the intelligence community which he (and his running mate) have been responsible for overseeing? Could it be that he has voted against EVERY weapons system upgrade the military has asked for in the past twenty years? (including Ageis and Tomahawk, which save innumerable American lives during the past TWO wars)Could it be a total lack of ANY significant legislation passed in TWENTY YEARS? WHAT has HE done to seal our borders in TWENTY YEARS? All he can claim is that he won three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star in the four months he spent in Viet Nam, and his campaign last week admitted that the first one was for a self inflicted wound! They still haven't explained how there's three different citations for the same Sivler Star, one from TWENTY YEARS after the action it was awarded for! THIS is what you want to replace what we have with? I defiunitely think this is a classic case of "better the devil you know than the devil you don't know!" I see enogh "track record" of John Kerry to scare the daylight outta me!
CWFoster Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 6:21 PM EST
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I HOPE after this election we can forego politics for six months or so and talk about something else...like cigars!
bloody spaniard Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 6:34 PM EST
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^ditto but it's not so bad...

One man's voting record is not going to dismantle our military. Besides, don't we have a majority Republican congress to keep guard?

Kerry and the Democrats are perfectly capable of combating terrorism as well as the Republicans.
Just look at the way they terrorized the Serbian populace, just so the Bosnian (actually Albanian) muslim squatters could lay claim to the land.

See? The Democrats can wield a "big stick" too.

blood
usahog Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Aug 30 2004, 6:41 PM EST
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Democrats Depleat the Military... and this is something America does not need anytime in the near future including NOW...

I'm not sharing my Bed with Terrorists...Sorry!!!

Hog
calavera Offline
#22 Posted: Tue, Aug 31 2004, 2:45 AM EST
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The Republican congress has consistently proven themselves to be a bunch of retards. I wouldn't count on them to zip their pants up before coming to work, much less to do the right thing.

J
CWFoster Offline
#23 Posted: Tue, Aug 31 2004, 5:01 AM EST
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One man's voting record is not going to dismantle our military. Besides, don't we have a majority Republican congress to keep guard?
-No, but one mans power of veto can!
Herr Rabbit Offline
#24 Posted: Tue, Aug 31 2004, 5:48 AM EST
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The Dems can wield a big stick because the US has a big stick to wield, no thanks to Kerry, Kennedy, et al.

The real question is will they and, if they will, How so? So far, Kerry wants France to be there with us or we aren't going. A bad precedent,MO.
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