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The Magical World of Terrorists and Liberals
usahog Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
August 29, 2004
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by Joe Mariani
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There really are two ways of looking at the world. To most of us, the world works in rational, linear, fairly predictable ways. Drop a hammer, for instance, and it will always fall, accelerating at thirty-two feet per second, every second. Science works. Reason works. We're capable of understanding the world, and using our understanding of it in small ways to advance ourselves. The world around us makes sense.

Then there are people who see the world through emotionalism, symbolism and magic. The world makes sense to them, too, but in a completely different way. They believe in Grand Gestures and symbolic attacks. They can't merely disagree with someone, that person must become a larger-than-life Enemy of All Humanity( http://www.rockcitynews.com/photos2e/protestwashingtonoct26b/pages/bushisaterrorist.htm ). Their emotions drive their thoughts and fears. Those who believe in a symbolic world don't see the universe as working along the same rational, linear lines as the rest of us. Liberals and terrorists both belong to this latter group of people.

Terrorists attack representative symbols of things they hate. Innocent people are symbolically representative of the larger group they want to hurt -- they're emotionally incapable of separating the individual from the group. To attack America or Israel, they kill random Americans or Israelis; to attack America's military, they attack the Pentagon or blow up a truck full of American soldiers; to attack America's economic might, they attack the World Trade Center and other financial buildings. Even the symbolic gesture of burning American flags
( http://www.diodon349.com/Attack_on_America/Attack_Stories/old_glory_fights_back.htm ) is, by magic, supposed to be an attack on America itself. Rational people would strive to build a better economy or military to increase their position in the world. By making the Grand Gesture of killing themselves along with the symbol that represents their chosen enemy, terrorists ensure that their attack "means" something -- it's the magic that translates the attack on the symbol to the hated real thing. Because their world functions by magic instead of rationality, they believe that they can hurt America by hurting symbols or representatives OF America.

Most Liberals have the same magical, emotional worldview as terrorists. Liberals feel that magic, of a sort, actually works. Their speeches are full of metaphor and emotional overtones instead of fact and realism. Like terrorists, they are fond of the Grand Gesture and symbolic attacks. When you see them dancing wildly and chanting ( http://www.protestwarrior.com/gallery.php?group=lefties&pic=55 ) obscenities in the streets of New York City to protest the Republican convention all next week (ironically using their freedom of speech to protest other people's freedom of speech), understand that what they do makes sense in a magic-run emotion-driven universe. If they can out-shout the Republicans, they can "beat" them. If they can( http://www.eyeambic.com/pics/2-15-03march/march7.jpg ) project their hate loudly enough, they can "win." That is why arguments with Liberals almost inevitably devolve into shouting matches. When they ( http://www.whittierdailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,207~12026~1234836,00.html ) burn American flags, they're burning a symbol that represents America -- and in their minds, they are burning America itself. Their weird costumes ( http://www.eyeambic.com/pics/2-15-03march/march3.jpg ), hate-spewing signs and slogans ( http://www.eyeambic.com/pics/2-15-03march/march22.jpg ) are all designed to symbolically attack the things they hate -- law, order, capitalism ( http://www.protestwarrior.com/gallery.php?group=lefties&pic=10 ), common decency and morality, freedom (to disagree with them), American power, the rational world and George W. Bush -- the current symbol of all these things. It doesn't matter that their arguments are irrational and not based on all the available facts -- they feel right, and, magically, they can become right by the power of emotion. As for the giant puppet heads ( http://www.sunmt.org/garbage.html )... okay, no one can explain the giant puppet heads.

Knowing that they can't possibly hurt any of these things only makes protesters redouble their efforts. Watch them carefully through the week and ask yourself whether they ( http://jurgenfauth.com/Feb15/pages/030215-071.htm ) represent your way of thinking. Where terrorists kill themselves to seal the magical deal, as it were, Liberals merely get more outrageous and outlandish in their symbolic street theater ( http://www.eyeambic.com/pics/2-15-03march/march14.jpg ) -- wearing hateful, scary costumes ( http://www.protestwarrior.com/gallery.php?group=lefties&pic=48 ), staging "die-ins,( http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/03/27/sprj.irq.antiwar/ )" painting their faces and bodies, making criminal accusations ( http://www.protestwarrior.com/gallery.php?group=lefties&pic=56 ) without proof (or even evidence), running around naked ( http://www.nbc5.com/news/3687648/detail.html )and so on. The shock value of their appearance and actions, they feel, is sufficient to translate their attacks from the symbols of the things they hate to the real thing. Having felt better for making the Grand Gesture, they return to their comfortable world, bought and paid for by the very things they profess to hate. Their main difference from the terrorists lies in this hypocrisy.

We survived the Cold War only because our enemy was generally as rational as we are. We could foresee the Soviet response to any action on our part because they thought the same way we do -- in rational, linear terms. Each move, like a chess game, led to a response from a set of rational responses. We're not so lucky this time. Terrorists are not really crazy, though they appear so to the rational thinker. Their belief in symbolic magic merely makes them seem insane to us. Liberals, likewise, view the world in an irrational way... they're only slightly less incomprehensible.

Joe Mariani

I posted the links where the click-ons in the article would be.. to read the links as you read this article is better understanding.. or still not understanding...

Hog
Double D Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 08-20-2003
Posts: 2,819
Ask any terrorist who they'd rather have as President of the USA...GW or Mr. Flip-Flop.

I bet they'll tell you it isn't GW.

DD

Charlie Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 06-16-2002
Posts: 39,751
I am sure that any terroist with a choice would say JfK over GWB....LMAO

Charlie
usahog Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 12-06-1999
Posts: 22,691
the sad thing is

How devided these United States are on the issue...

and this devision is coming straight from the TOP...

sure it's election year, and theres allot of mud slinging going on...

but the Democrats and mainly Liberals at that are driving a wedge in America...

What does one do when someone cuss's him out over his bumper sticker? (Bush/Cheney 04)??

the typical words you hear from the left is.. I support our Troops but I do not support this war or that war.. and our troops are dying and so on a so forth...
what logic is this??
support the troops but not the war??
how do you support one but bad mouth and slander the other? when the media hippe picks up these anti sentaments of America Devided.. the Terrorists and any other Country who hates America.. Take this as Power and run with it...

Wake up America you cannot have both slices of Pie!!!!
this does not help the American fighting men and women it hinders their efforts....

Hog
niteorday Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 02-29-2004
Posts: 4,209
thanks again hog
CWFoster Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 12-12-2003
Posts: 5,414
There IS a right to dissent, but remenber "a house divided against itself cannot stand". It is important to keep dissent as we cannot be blind followers of ANY man or ideology, but we must present a united front to those who, on the outside, would perceive it to be double mindedness and weakness. We cannot say "let's throw away this plan and try something else" unless we already know exactly what the "something else" is, and have thought out the consequences. I'm not 100% in agreement with the current administation. I do NOT care for the Patriot Act, and the abrogation of individual liberties that it can cover. That being said, I see no reason to try to apply constitutional protections to people who were caught overseas, held overseas, and in most cases have never personally ventured into the juridiction of the U.S. Constitution. HOWEVER, I cannot stand by while some people propose to subplant the current administation with someone whose only qualifiaction is that the VC were fairly good shots (some folks refer to Purple Hearts as enemy marksmanship medals) and did 4 months incountry in a combat zone. Hell, I've been in a combat zone longer than that on one deployment! Vote for me! The Liberals tout their candidate as having volunteered to serve (he joined the Reserves for the same reason Bush joined the Guard, to avoid Viet Nam, and his unit was activated, Bush's wasn't, luck of the draw!) He says that that makes him more qualified to be a "National Security Leader" than Bush. He voted against most if not all of the weapons systems that proved so effective in both Iraqi wars, and continues to vote against military appropriations, so he beleives in a strong defence, just not paying for it? And WHY does he insist on his thirty years gone by military service being the centerpeice of his campaign? Could it be that he HAS no real plan for what to do with the current situation in Iraq, or anywhere else? Are we, to avoid any further casaualties among our troops to make the deaths of those fallen meaningless by tucking our tails and running like the Russians did in Afghanistan? What happened in Afghanistan after the USSR pulled out? "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it". If you say Bush needs replacing, don't feed me any malarkey about anything would be better, tell me WHAT your alternative plan is, and we can have a civil discussion about it, and if The French, Russians, Germans, or Islamists ask what our intentions are, we say "to carry out the policies of the United States as set forth by the Commannder-in-Chief!" That way, we have an exchange of ideas, and if Kerry or anybody else comes up with a better plan, I'll throw my support behind it. But don't tell me about Halliburton (I agree there's WAY too much smoke there not to be some fire) and say that's the one and only thing going on. There's alot more that's being done, that needs doing, that the opposition seems bound and determined to drop along with the flakey stuff! So don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, and dont make the Islamists think that half of us are on their side, because they want one of two things, to convert you to Islam, or kill you, there is NO compromise, no middle ground, and as far as the other side is concerned, no quarter to be given or asked!
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