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A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Bush family history shows a dark past unseen by most

Few would argue that trust, like democracy, is earned and not inherited. So how is it that we've missed the lessons of four generations of Bush family history?
As Kevin Phillips recounts in "American Dynasty," the Bush family presents a record of war profiteers who use public office to gain wealth and advantage. Along the way, Bush family business cronies receive political access and legitimacy.

One of the most venal characters is Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather.

In 1942, Congress seized the assets of Prescott Bush and charged him with trading with the enemy. Bush and his father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, were managing directors of the Union Banking Corp. of New York City. Allied with Brown Brothers Harriman, the largest private investment bank in the world, Bush and Walker were front men for Nazi industrialist Fritz Thyssen.

Thyssen, whose empire was founded on coal and steel, financed the rise of Adolf Hitler. Then as now, cloaking funds destined for subversion of democracies or weapons shipment was a useful tactic. To hide transactions and conceal ownership, Thyssen created a banking network. The first node was established in Berlin, a second in neutral Holland. UBC in New York was the linchpin.

Little more than a money-laundering office for Nazi operations in the United States, Bush, Walker and other confederates oversaw almost a dozen separate businesses. Acting with Thyssen's money, they aided the Nazi invasion of Europe by supplying resources for weaponry. In 1937, Bush set up a deal to help the Luftwaffe obtain tetraethyl lead to boost aircraft performance.

Americans first heard about Thyssen's American operations in the New York Herald-Tribune on July 30, 1942, eight months after Pearl Harbor. The headline declared "Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank." However, the story did not identify Bush or Harriman as UBC executives.

After the war ended in 1945, investigators learned that Bush had extremely close ties to Thyssen and continued to work as his agent to the end. When hostilities ceased, Bush helped move Thyssen assets to Panama, Argentina and Brazil, all major destinations for the flight of Nazi capital.

In 1951, following Thyssen's death in Argentina, the U.S. alien property custodian released the assets of Union Banking Corp. Prescott Bush cashed out his ownership share for $1.5 million. (In 2004 dollars, that's more than $10 million.) He used it to fund a successful U.S. Senate campaign from Connecticut and launch his son, the president's father, in the oil business.

Other American companies that armed Hitler included General Motors, Standard Oil and Chase Bank. All were quietly sanctioned after Pearl Harbor; then government files were lost or forgotten. For 60 years, the full record of Prescott Bush's complicity in the Nazi war machine has been ignored or denied by participants and the U.S. media.

But no more. Documents relating to the seizures were recently uncovered in the National Archives and the Library of Congress. Confirmed by Dutch government sources, they show that Bush shipped tons of strategic resources to the Third Reich as Hitler prepared to invade Poland.

Despite this history, the news media continues to present a selective picture of the Bush family and its business connections. People who tried to show the warts were shouted down; in 2000, the publisher of "Fortunate Son," a George Bush biography, was forced to recall and burn its inventory.

After launching a bloody occupation of Iraq, perhaps it's time Americans connect the dots and see the big picture. It ought to have been done before the invasion, but since we're trained to accept media and TV dinners uncritically, developing a context for identifying domestic enemies is a challenge. Rhetoric and flag waving have replaced hard-nosed insistence on the truth. Meanwhile, lies send our troops to die far from home; war profits flow to favored industries in billion-dollar contracts.

In private action and public policy, Bush family history reveals a pattern of war profiteering spanning four generations. It's a legacy of deceit and death. For the naïve and uninformed, the facts may be a slap in the face. For those who look closely, the sign is as clear as blood on snow.

Then again, perhaps the pattern is lost in the noise. According to Bob Woodward's "Bush At War," the president attended a New York Yankees game not long after the 9/11 attacks. Wearing a New York City fireman's jacket, Bush threw out the first pitch and the crowd roared its approval. From a sky box above the stadium, Karl Rove, Bush's political adviser, likened the roar of the crowd to "a Nazi rally."

usahog Offline
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the Link??

LMAO!!!!!!

Hog
EI Offline
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And joe kennedy was a bootlegger and Nazi sympathizer

So much for taking the high road
Charlie Offline
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Rick

Watch for the black helicopters!

Charlie
Herr Rabbit Offline
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The Uber Troll strikes again. A drive by BS drop.
428cj Offline
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Why stop at 1937? I'm sure Rick if you do some further digging you can find some more extremely relevant info that predates 1937.
JonR Offline
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Yo Rick:

I guess when GW is reelected and anything you say after his reelection will be moot point, you will have to go back to masturbation to relieve your frustrations.

JonR
mattmelcher Offline
#8 Posted:
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I think it's only a matter of time before the maven starts quoting from david icke's website; telling us that bush is a shape shifting reptilian member of the illuminati...
Thom Offline
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Who needs a link when it's all true? Oh, wait, that's right, you're right wing sympathizers.

Continue with your back patting.
Thom Offline
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LMAO!!!!!!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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mattmelcher

who is david icke?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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usahog

the link is not important. many books for you to read to gather information for yourself.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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428cj

contrary to opinion, gutenberg was not the first to invent moveable type. the chinese had invented it around 1045, but since the chinese have 4000+ characters, it was not very useful for printing.

when gutenberg developed his moveable type and only had to use 26 characters, actually 52, upper and lower case, plus punctuation, he helped teach the world to read.

try it sosme time. it may not help, but it couldn't hurt.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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JonR

another genitalia reference. you better talk to your therapist about this fixation.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Thom

just thought i'd say hello.
ferd6 Offline
#16 Posted:
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how is cheering the president for throwing out the first ball akin to a nazi rally . . the crowd in boston did the same for mr. kerry . . .does that mean the rally moved from new york to boston??
Gene363 Offline
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...the smell of desperation...
Thom Offline
#18 Posted:
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Hi Rick.
CWFoster Offline
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Rick, I seem to have missed your post castigating Henry Ford and his decendants for not only dealing with Hitler, but openly proclaiming prior to Pearl Harbor, that Hitler had the "right idea" to rid Germany of the Jews! I missed your posts denigrating Charles "Lucky Lindy" Lindburg for supporting the Nazis until the war started! I find these little historical factoids very interesting, but personally find sins are MUCH more telling when perpetrated by the CURRENT gereration! Profiteering? How about quashing any further investigation into the status of POW/MIA's to grease the wheels of a $9 Billion port rennovation of Cam Rahn Bay? The Forbes familys construction company did that deal, that never would have gone through without John Kerry shutting the investigations and inqueries down! How about openly negotiating and collaborating with the North Vietnamese WHILE the war was still going on? I do beleive that was your main problem with Bush's grandfather. Kerry HIMSELF met with NVA officials in Paris in 1973, and came home to inaugurate some very disruptive demostrations in the streets of Washington DC! His testimony before Congress was used in the torture and demoralization of our prisoners held by Hanoi! Where is your outrage at these crimes against our country? Once again, you are showing yourself to be a shill for the Kerry campaign, and as much as you say you are not a supporter of Kerry, your one sided attacks agaist Bush while giving Kerry a pass for the same things and worse, shows you to be a "good little German" in the Kerry machine!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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CWFoster

it's not about kerry in my mind, it's about bush.

let's say kerry is a wife beater. i give him a pass.

a pedophile. i give him a pass with the proviso that he is watched 24/7 to protect children from his perversion.

he watches frasier and thinks it's funny. well different strokes for different folks.

i am trying to think of who might have run against bush that would require me to support bush.

i'm really trying.
MACS Offline
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I found Rick's address guys. 2 exits past senility.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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MACS(SW)

we mock the things we are to be.
MACS Offline
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Yeah rick, but I ain't afraid of growing old... it beats the alternative. ;-)

You were talking about being old, right? I'll never be a damn liberal.
Cavallo Offline
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it's pretty well known that prescott bush did business with the nazis -- quite a few other "great americans" did the same as well.

before that, many of the great magnates did other unethical things -- from gaining financially from slavery to running sweatshops at the turn of the century.

i would venture to say that MOST "old money" is also "dirty money." really nothing new or shocking about this case. there are many others.
rayder1 Offline
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Geez Rick... back in the pre war era. A whole bunch of people and businesses supplied Germany and Japan. Even when the idea that they were gearing up for war...no-one really thought that the USA would end up fighting them. We keep looking at everything that occurred prior to WW2 and labeling the people who supplied the Nazi's and Japanese as traitors of some sort.

If Japan drops a nuke on San Francisco tomorrow...the Scion you just bought supported them. Keep things in perspective.
CWFoster Offline
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My point is using all the ancient history of what someones grandfather did to paint the current generation as a traitor! Rick, until I see you pushing for a boycott against Ford ?Motor Company, and Hughes Anything! (Howard Hughes sold the design of a racing plane to Japan, It is better known as the Japanese Zero) then keep your hypocritical rantings to yourself! To imply that Kerry as a child molester would be better than Bush really goes beyond any semblence of reason! I like debating with you when you can hold up your end on an intellectual basis, but when you advocate chgange for changes sake, without regard for consequences, you are convincing me you are off whatever meds you've been on!
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