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It is just a shame that you Florida voters cannot follow directions and vote like the rest of the nation! Maybe you wouldn't have so many problems haunting you! You guys make a great alliance, since you are the only two who understands your banter! Charlie

Because your viewpoint is wrong Rick. Charlie is a smart man. He's the voice of sanity. Listen to him!!!

It is great. Glad to see your coming around BJ. You can help us bully Rick now that you're on our side. Welcome to the fold!! LOL

Hey CharBroil since you seem to be GWB's head cheerleader let me ask of all the posts on these boards how many have been positve things your boy has done or is doing, you want to talk facts lets talk about an odd obsession with missle defense or the Increased millitary spending or the stalled tobbaco lawsuit.

Read the post again I want to hear the republican side of these issues, since apparently the info I get is just DEMOCRATIC HYPE and If you dont know about all the isssues surrounding your (our) pres. try reading some of the stuff that may not make the nightly news.

So Mower you are against the military, for tobacco lawsuits, against protecting our country with a missile
shield. The hell with protecting ourselves this is such an utopian world we live in. There are terrorists and wacko dictators in the world. Yeah sue sue sue the tobacco industry for our discision to smoke. Give me a break. Take NO personnal responsibility. Get a lawyer/bloodsucker to blame someone else.
I agree with Char. mail your rebate back to Kennedy/Gephardt they know what's best for you better then you do.

char5353, gdurfor and strangely enough tailgator: yous guys are trying to read between the lines of a
single spaced post. because a taxpaying citizen believes the govt is wasting money for any
reason and is against it does not mean he is against where the money is going. i don't like the
idea of those $600. toilet seats, therefore i am against the military. no, you are being illogical
that animal is blue. that animal is a cow. therefore all cows are blue or all blue animals are
cows? play with that, it's not political. i'm not sure which overpriced airplane, i believe it is the
stealth, the super duper can't be tracked by radar, can sneak in to "enemy territory", and came in
at double budget, is trackable by cell phones. this star war bs has gotten the world angry at us
and this little **** has brought back the cold war, except now everbody hates us, not just the
russians. incidentally one of my grandfathers was from russia and his parents got him to america
to escape the pogroms. my grandmother got out of Hungary for the same reason. (era late
1800's) just a little info which has nothing to do with my posts or politics. might have something
to do with my obsession with cigars. i don't remember him buying cigars. he always lit the same
short stubb every morning and came home from work with the same one. good teachers always
try to interject some little story to keep the class's attention. cigarettes. ashcroft, a name that will
also live in infamy, is trying to help the industry that produces the most insidious drug, marketed
to children letting them off the hook for the judgement levied against them . no adult starts
smoking for peer aproval. kids are hooked and hooked for life. cigarettes are the only
consumable product that is treated by the govt as neither a food or a drug. they should and will
be regulated here (only as far as children are concerned. adults can make their own decisions.),
but they are not in third world countries which is why they have set up shop overseas. this is
getting too long. i will return. and i won't keep getting in and out of the boat until they get a good
picture.

Charbroiler, you still dont get it my post answered your question but you did not answer mine. I dont blame Bush for anything, but if the state of our econimics were different right now are you telling me he would not be breaking his own arm patting himself on the back and telling us what a good job he is doing? I am not agianst our millitary in any way my question concered the excess spending and I am not throwing stones I am asking simple questions 328.9billion and looking for an extra 18.4 billion on top of that? Even if the millitary has equipment 30 years old its still far more advanced than anything else that any other counrty has. And spending money on technology that doesn't work? The sophisticated anti-missle interceptors that can't stop primitive wobbly missles from rouge nations or germ warfare from terrorists. Oh yea and the smoking lawsuit was thrown in to piss you off, I personaly think it is crap, but I like seeing the flames jump off the screen. But it seem I scare you because the only responce you all seem to have is to poke fun at my choice of careers does it make you mad that I am totaly independent and need no help from my state or government, I have never needed any type of assistance or aid in any form and have never even collected an unemployment check in my life and I pay more than my fair share in taxes, if i were waiting for GWB to make my life better I would be a dead fish on the pier of life and the gulls would be picking at my carcase. I dont know any of you and dont need to prove anything to you just to my family which I love very much they are what drives me to get me up and drag myself to my buisness 6 days a week 10-11 hour a day so that everthing I have is mine and I worked hard to get it, Like I said I dont Know you or what you do I personally dont care you have no affect on my life but you seem to be a hostile person maybe you need anger managment calm down smoke a cigar!

tailgator: "so I assume you wouldn't mind a take-over by another country" we have been by corporations, an invention that allows a group of people to do anything they want to do to make money and not be held personally accountable.

To help weed through the problems my name is Jason, the lawnmower man thing doesent bother me if it sticks it sticks I know how these things work. I dont hate our president in any way I just dont agree with him 100% of the time and lots of republicans I talk to say the same. I hope there is no anamosity, I like the open discussion and hope it can continue. Thanks
Oh yea Rick congrats on your long marriage thats great to here. I hope we can all get toghter with a nice ISOM and drink of our choice and maybe I will go watch a sun set instead of a sun rise. Thanks again.

Jason, I don't agree with the president on everything.
I fact he's a little to liberal for me but better then the other choice we had. He's not assertive enough for me on education(vouchers), larger tax cuts(no capital gains tax), immigration(stop it), and abortion(end it). As for Rick's comment about missile defense getting other countries mad at us I'd say in diplomatic terms F***'em.
We have to look after ourseleves.
Glenn

Jason. Hmmm. I thought BJLM1970 was "Been Jerking Like Mad since 1970". (That's for you, RM). Anyway, what are you asking? You cry about military spending so we assume you don't want our superior technology. Do you think we'll stay advanced if we don't continue to spend? You see, the US Military does indeed spend WAY too much. But unlike education or welfare, the military shows results from this overspending. Remember Desert Storm? We kicked their ass with ease. That wasn't because we are tree huggers. That was because of our Military. Are you angry because Dubya wants to dis the treaties? Don't you realize that the REAL nuclear threats of today are from rogue groups that are not represented by ancient treaties? Wouldn't you want a means to prevent that? So you see, although you can sharpen a blade, you haven't been able to accomplish that feat with your wit.

The rogue nations do not need superior technology to launch a nuclear missle, but we will need superior technology to defend such an attack. This isn't about shooting SCUDS over in the desert. This is about REAL threats to our soil. Why wait until it's too late? The best offense is a good defense, and the "Star Wars" program has the most merit. The Federal government needs to head the military, but education should receive the bulk of it's funding from the State and Local level. It's apples and oranges. By the way, who is Big Johnson, and how did you find out about his member?