I agree with PD...Mayorgas are definitely a step up (and is an altogether different cigar entirely)...When I first started smoking cigars, one of the cigars I enjoyed was the Smokin Lulu..Now, my tastes have changed and I enjoy Mayorgas more often..In fact, last time I had a Smokin Lulu, it seemed too light in flavor to me...I haven't given up on them though...They are most in the class of backyard smokes now..I would like to try a few more though.