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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 10:22 AM EST
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this is america's kristallnacht against freedom and civil liberty.
bassdude Offline
#2 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 10:24 AM EST
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you are going where you are clueless. By Grandmother spent this night in a German work camp.

tread lightly.
SteveS Offline
#3 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 10:43 AM EST
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Rick, that is utterly ridiculous and over the top ... even knowing how much you dislike GWB, I cannot imagine that you, of all people, would make such an invidious comparison ...

Earlier today, I expressed sincere sympathy for the way you feel today, but posts such as this one greatly temper my sympathy ...
dmjdc Offline
#4 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 11:06 AM EST
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Rick is just an angry old man.
Charlie Offline
#5 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 11:07 AM EST
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Not just angry, but a totally over the top madman!

Charlie

PS Rickie you owe the board an apology!
tailgater Offline
#6 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 11:22 AM EST
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Rick is simply proving, yet again, that his "feelings" displace any sense of intelligence. In true liberal form, I might add.

He claims this is against freedom? How so? Dubya won a free election. By popular vote and by the Electoral College.
There is no discrepancy this season. No hanging chads. No multiple recounts, and no court orders.

If this isn't freedom, then Ricks version of freedom is simply to do as he alone feels.

I feel sorry for you, my friend.

Truly and deeply.

kornazoo Offline
#7 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 11:46 AM EST
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Poor analogy, and very poor taste, even by your own standards Rick. I agree that you owe the board an apology.
EI Offline
#8 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 11:55 AM EST
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even kerry wouldn't go that far.
this poor guy must have had a breakdown today
calavera Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 11:58 AM EST
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Tasteless, utterly tasteless.

J
Double D Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 12:00 PM EST
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RICKAMAVENs must be very mad today, especially since GW converted many Jewish-American voters (especially in FL)who are simply fed-up with Islamic extremist terrorism.

Too bad RICKAMAVEN can't see the forest from the trees.

DD

DD
JonR Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 12:04 PM EST
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Philadelphia Eagles 7 an 0, only undefeated team in the NFL. WooHoooooooo!

JonR
EI Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 12:08 PM EST
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anytime the eagles go 7 and 0 the encumbant president wins the election

this has been going on since 2004
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 12:28 PM EST
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i spoke my convictions.
they are not subject to a vote.
i stand by them.
Charlie Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 12:43 PM EST
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You are more warped and demented than I thought!

Not to smart either, to compare a democratic election in the USA to the Night of Broken Glass!

Charlie
Thom Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 12:56 PM EST
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Personally, I can't wait until I get my U.S. Citizen ID card.

"Do you have your ID, citizen?"
SteveS Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 1:16 PM EST
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You should refrain from making stupid remarks ... it might give others a misimpression of you ...
snowwolf777 Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 1:30 PM EST
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This post ranks right up there with the one that had the "humorous" picture of 9/11 victims falling to their death ...
kornazoo Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 1:30 PM EST
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Stand by your convictions which are not subject to a vote? Then stand by the criticism you deserve....however I suspect you ENJOY it in a sick masochistic way...my opinion is that you are a sad, sad man.
EI Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 1:47 PM EST
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then move to France or Canada

flee this country while you can
JonR Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 2:17 PM EST
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Rickamaven = Alter Cocker. And that's the truth.

JonR

Ps: For our non-jewish friends definition of;

ALTER COCKER: An old and complaining person, an old fart.
bassdude Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 2:27 PM EST
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rick, you are truly a pathetic piece of ****. enjoy your life(what's left of it) and die a lonely old man.

it is probably a good thing you are in arizona.
cigarsmokin Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 2:46 PM EST
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Bass


From the looks of it he's already DEAD. He can pack his double wide and move on out.

cigarsmokin
GB
rayder1 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 3:11 PM EST
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Here's a touch of history:

So, it appears, the term "Kristallnacht" or "Crystal Night" was invented by Nazis to mock Jews on that black November night in 1938. It is, therefore, another example of Nazi perversion. There are numerous other examples of this same tendency in the language of the Nazi perpetrators: Sonderbehandlung ("special treatment") for gassing victims, Euthanasie for a policy of mass murder of retarded or physically handicapped patients, "Arbeit Macht Frei" (Work Makes you Free) over the entrance to Auschwitz. When the Nazis launched their plan to annihilate the remaining Jews in Poland in the fall of 1943, they called it "Erntefest," or Harvest Festival. While this may have been a code word, as Froma Zeitlin has observed, it had the same grim and terrible irony that is reflected in Kristallnacht as in so many other instances of the perverted uses of language in the Third Reich. Perhaps most cynical of all is the use of the term, "Endloesung der Judenfrage" (Final Solution of the Jewish Question), for what is now known as the Holocaust. Goebbels frequently used such terminology to amuse his audiences (usually other Nazi officials) and to further demoralize his victims.

Thanks Rick...your absolute hatred of the American public...who have spoken in the last election...places you in the same boat.

I know you are of Jewish heritage, but you have lost any shred of respect many here ever had of you or your convictions. I think there might be a few fringe groups out there you can join...or create your own.

I think the majority here are going to agree... that comment and comparison sucked. You should sit back...maybe pull out a copy of Anne Frank and remember that there is nothing in the U.S. to ever compare to Kristallnacht.

rayder1 Offline
#24 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 3:12 PM EST
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That first paragraph was a quotation....unless you want to think I wrote that myself.
JonR Offline
#25 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 3:36 PM EST
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The Germans also coined the word "Gemutlichkeit".


Share the spirit of Gemutlichkeit -- the German word for hospitality and warm welcome.



JonR
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#26 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 4:30 PM EST
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bassdude

you are very fond of the term POS.

i live in california not arizona. i enjoy every day and night and i am not lonely.

how could i be when i have friends like you that will repond to any bell i tinkle.

tinkle, tinkle.
kornazoo Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 4:53 PM EST
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Yeah, Just like I said before...This very sad, pathetic man loves any attention, even negative...
pajama94us Offline
#28 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 5:13 PM EST
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Hey Rick Does that Dude you live with, Toby share the same sentiments as you.
lofty1 Offline
#29 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 5:23 PM EST
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that's a little below the belt, but, rick, you do ask for it. i think the gloves have officially come off.
bloody spaniard Offline
#30 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 5:27 PM EST
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PJ baby, do you EVER say anything that is not a wisecrack?
Toby is a lovely damsel.

Now be a nice girl & put your top back on.

Oooops, now look at who's calling the kettle black?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#31 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 10:36 PM EST
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lofty1

which part was a little below the belt?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Nov 3 2004, 10:39 PM EST
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pajama94us

that "dude," ass hole, and i have been married 41 years.
STAY AWAY FROM ANYTHING ABOUT MY WIFE.
Double D Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 12:36 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN = POOR LOSER

DD
pajama94us Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 1:45 AM EST
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could have fooled me
Intel Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 2:28 AM EST
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Rick,
I would say it seems odd that you have some type of line you do not want others to cross yet, you have no line for yourself.
Double D Offline
#36 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 3:27 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN

I'm serious when I say this.

Have you considered psychological counseling and/or antidepressant medication to treat your obsessive hate for our President (if you haven't already done so)?

Really, it is not physically or mentally healthy to live with such irrational, abject rage for one person/party.

DD
lofty1 Offline
#37 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 4:07 AM EST
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rick:
lofty1

which part was a little below the belt?


talking about your wife. as i said earlier, though, you ask for it. maybe now you'll reconsider being so callous. some take it personal, and they'll make it personal for you. it's not worth the bizarre pleasure you derive from angering these folks anymore is it?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#38 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:21 AM EST
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lofty1

ok i look for trouble and lo and behold i find a bug crawls out from under a rock with the only post he has made, pajama94us.

actually my posts did not start out originally the way they are percieved now.

this board is priomarily a bunch of religious zealots and right wing zealots.

lots of people didn't like what i had to say, but no one resorted to vulgarity or personal attacks. they just said i was wrong, and wrong at the top of my voice (spencer tracy, "bad day at black rock")

a few of the dogs of war, who had little to offer except profanity, started things off and then guys that used to argue with me started the personal attack.

my attacks were directed at the administration, not at people on the board.

and so scum like pajama94us thinks he can sneak in and say something nasty about my wife. he can't and if he does again, assuming he has not moved on, i will have him removed from the boards. i doubt that, that is acceptable posting.

if we ever got back to civil disagreements, someone may learn something.

bloody spaniard has turned me into a conservative. i learned something.

when someone tries to invoke "the wrath of god", or quotes from the bible, i usually i bite my lip and try not to insult their beliefs. sometimes i lose a little. rest assured that only what few good senses of reason i have, keep my responses somewhat under control. with all the people telling me about their god, and why i should accept and convert, i have not
tried to convert anyone to my point of view about a god. i have just said i have no need for a god, not that they shouldn't believe in their god.

i'll take my credit for that much regardless of what others may think or say.
SteveS Offline
#39 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:24 AM EST
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There are also some of us on the board who are cigar zealots ...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#40 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:27 AM EST
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SteveS

i'm retired with time to waste. how do you find the time to read and respond to the posts so quickly.
SteveS Offline
#41 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:29 AM EST
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I've got CBid open on my task bar and tend to read some of the posts while waiting on hold for those I speak with while at work ...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#42 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:32 AM EST
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always nice to chat with you.
PMoreno349 Offline
#43 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:45 AM EST
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Bassdude, it's people like you who give right-winged fanatics a bad name.
SteveS Offline
#44 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:48 AM EST
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========================================
Author: RICKAMAVEN Date: 11/04/2004 11:32 AM
always nice to chat with you.
========================================

I feel exactly the same way ...
lofty1 Offline
#45 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 6:53 AM EST
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pmoreno349:
Bassdude, it's people like you who give right-winged fanatics a bad name.


I disagree. I don't consider myself a right-winged fanatic, either. In fact, I'm an atheist. I do, however, respect those things that are sacred to others. That's what seperates me from Rick. I don't agree with everything Bush does. I agree some of the more important things. I'll NEVER disparage those that have sacrificed to insure I keep the right to disagree with Bush. Rick lacks the respect he commands from others. He doesn't like someone talking about his wife, but he has no problem insulting what others consider off limits.

The election is over. We should talk about football, the hockey strike, or something else. Otherwise, people are going to keep getting pissed at each other.
PMoreno349 Offline
#46 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 7:10 AM EST
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What kills me here, is that Rick's unabashed, deep-seated, Mordor-born, hate and disgust of GW, is no different than 18delta's spew against liberals! So why don't all you conservatives jump on delta when he goes over the top? I think it is because, deep down, you support some the feelings being expressed. (As if liberals have cornered the market on emotion-driven political discussion! Ha!) I am assuming here, that Rick feels that since he is of Jewish heritage, then it is his perogative to use analogies from their history to express how he is feeling, a taboo for most of us, given the enormity of that event. Which brings me to the final point, which is, as much as I am dismayed by Bush being re-elected...Things are not THAT bad Rick. We can survive another 4 years, and the system is still in-tact enough that we can go back and correct any big problems that are created. And, after all, this election, Bush did win by a majority, and I believe that.
PMoreno349 Offline
#47 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 7:17 AM EST
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lofty1.... I hear you... and I want to recognize that the conservatives, military specifically, think that what Rick has abused here is honor for the sacrifice of the faces on the board... even though, Rick said that this is clearly not his intention.
JonR Offline
#48 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 7:33 AM EST
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Yo Rick:

When I first came to this board I also thought Toby might be a male, after all you do live in California. Is Toby her true name are is it short for something? Inquiring minds want to know.

JonR
SteveS Offline
#49 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 7:34 AM EST
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Speaking as someone who's jousted with Rick over politics for years, I can assure you that he is a genuinely warm and caring human being ... I have no doubt of that whatsoever ...

While his political views and mine are about as divergent as is possible, I have never doubted the genuineness (oh, that doesn'nt sound at all right and probably isn't a real word) of his care for other people, even we of the more conservative persuasion ... he has no mean bones and no feelings of personal hatred.

I understand how he feels about the outcome of the election ... had the results been different, my feelings would be quite similar to what his are now.

It is my hope that we ... ALL of us ... can somehow NOT personally attack one another ... it'd probably be better if we followed the age old advise and didn't discuss religion or politics ... not possible, perhaps, but we'd be better off if it were possible.
xibbumbero Offline
#50 Posted: Thu, Nov 4 2004, 9:54 AM EST
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Hey SteveS....Yo Mama!!

LOL,J/K. Actually,I agree and it will interesting to see if the vitriol of the election will continue to surface in unrelated topics. X
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